I imagine the foreign minstry is going to do a full court press on the Brits to reconsider their warning but the most important that can be done is to seek out and destroy any AS cells/Pirate groups as a confidence building measure. Never knew the Algeria situation would have that big an impact across the continent

Mashallah words fail do describe how amazing this new hospital is, inshallah more advancements in the health sector are to come

Conspiracy theorists make me laugh, they can jump to the most ludicrous conclusions with almost no substantiating fact...it's almost a talent

^^^ You would think they would be running out nails by now lol Taiwan has a better shot federating with the PRC than SL does

Somalia;913243 wrote: I think this is part of a Mogadishu conspiracy with foreign powers to make Somaliland seem unstable. A deal must have been made with the British, probably by the secessionist foreign minister to make this announcement. What is her motive? Is she hurt over how she was treated due to having neo-HAG children? Is it personal? Only time will tell. Take off the tin-foil hat and stop listening to Alex Jones. That is the most illogical conspiracy Ive heard. Would you really think that the FM would wield that kind of influence over the security policy of the UK, also the travel ban affects Somalia as well which is clearly not in their interest Its basically an overreaction to sabre rattling made by AS looking for relevance by claiming they are about to launch fresh attacks against western targets

Che -Guevara;912472 wrote: ^You are making the same arguments people make against your tribal enclave. It's lack of leadership that's plaguing Sool, the same leadership problems all Somalis face. In all seriousness I think only number 5 of the above list affects SL. Technically speaking, it's even more economically viable than Djibouti when looking at human capital and resources. But even Djbouti is more viable than Khatumo since it has it's port and sea access.

Very true, money is very powerful. As they say it's about the economy ******, which is the very reason why Galaydh's "Khatumo" project is doomed to fail. It's not even a viable state. 1) It has no major population centres, 2) Does not have any access to the sea, 3) Little to no infrastructure (don't even try to convince me that the airstrip in Taleex is an "airport") 4) A low population base from which to extract taxes and revenue 5) topography that doesn't allow for mass cultivation of cash crops 6) Sandwiched between two much larger economies (SL, PL) which will limit the development of localized industry Meanwhile Somaliland has an operating budget of $120,000,000 USD annually (growing and larger than Somalia and PL's), it houses major regional corporations, has a strategic deep sea port, well funded armed forces, and relatively large population base. If you look at the books you'll see that the Khatumo folks have the odds stacked against them

Fiqikhayre;912103 wrote: GAROWE ONLINE Garowe online? While we're at it let's ask Fox News what their opinion of Obama is...

Ah yes, the Khatumo project. I believe their motto is - "The best party planning in the horn since 2012, to plan an event call 555-5555"

I think Xinny is bordering on delusional at this point and even hypocritical. Trying to rebuff Somaliland's legitimate claims to large portions of Sanaag (from which I hail) and Sool.......yet at the same time Xinny says territory as far as the outskirts Burco is rightfully belongs the decripted phantom administration of Khatumo. That logic boggles the mind. I wouldn't be surprised if he called for the annexation of Poland next

....Because the EU is doing great now right?

Somaliland:Khatumo Militias Dislodged from Hudun Bases HUDUN (Somalilandsun) - Skirmishes between the national army and Militias aligned to Khatumo have taken place south of Hudun town in Sool region. According to the Somaliland Army Commander Gen Ismail Mohamed Osman 'Shakale' the 1.45 pm skirmishes saw the national rout the secessionist militias from their Hideouts in the south of Hudun town. A statement from Gen Shakale informed that the army which managed to disperse the militias up to a distance of 40 Kms away from Hudun after an exchange of heavy and light weapons fire. "The national army also captured 10 militias , 2 armed technical band wagons mounted with heavy weapons as well as one personnel carrier" Said Gen Shakale. The milArmy officers patrol HudunArmy officers patrol Hudunitias who have continuously engaged the national in sporadic skirmishes are aligned to a number of secessionist politicians from Sool Region who proclaimed in early 2012 a state dubbed Khatumo meant to be hived off from areas under the territorial jurisdiction of Somaliland. The Khatumoists led by Ali Khalif Galayd a Somali member of parliament are mostly funded and trained by the Puntland, administrative region of Somalia known to hold agendas related to the disruption of peaceful co-existences in Somaliland. The ongoing Khatumoists sporadic attacks against the national army started during the local council elections of the 28th November 2012 after a lengthily lull occasioned by the Buhodle peace accord signed between the government in Hargeisa and SSC militias from the region. Despite creating mischief and occasional loos of youthful lives as well as attendant costs the Khatumoists disturbances are inconsequential as pertains to the being of Somaliland thus the skirmishes are just an irritation that refuses to go away mostly not until Ali Khalif Galayd is appointed to a senior position in Hargeisa. http://somalilandsun.com/index.php/politics/2153-somalilandkhatumo-militias-dislodged-from-hudun-bases

So is Mintid actually suggesting that governments shouldn't be responsive to the demands and consensus of it's citizens? That kind of thinking actually makes me worried for the political discourse in the south and if democracy will ever take root in Xamar

Xinny and the bandwagoners predictions are so ridiculous that they're starting to get pathetic. If got a dollar for every time I heard it was the "end" for somaliland I would be a billionaire at this point. Leave the nostradamus drivel and leave the predictions to people capable of putting forward real substantiated analysis Last nail on Somaliland's coffin? I thought that already happened lol http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/63167-The-last-nail-to-the-secessionists%E2%80%99-coffin?highlight=coffin http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/62799-The-last-Nail-To-The-Somalidiid-land-Clan-Secessionists%E2%80%99-Coffin?highlight=coffin

Oodweyne;910866 wrote: And there are other stuff that I shan't go into it now which in turn will make one's jaws drop in shear amazement. While I haven't visited the teashops of Hounslow or Woolwich in a while (a bit of a long flight for me) these allegations are quite troubling. Although the activities are quite pervasive in all African countries the apparent openness is what surprises me. In all honesty i don't think this is the result of a leadership problem in Somaliland (of whom have had quite a few successes) I think it boils down to greedy cabinet members and party officials...which in turn reflects badly on the leadership. Ultimately I think there will be a very anti incumbent mood at the polls come 2015...but according to the sensationalist postings on the forum Somaliland would have collapsed by then lol

Of course but as we all know PL would like to be much more in the drivers seat than being relegated to sidelines like it has

Somaliland has definitely come a long way....there might be ups and downs but when you see the stark difference between now and then you're reminded that the struggle was worth it. Also let's make sure that we take our voices to the ballot box in 2015 to see the change we want to see

Besides the obvious feelings people have towards Silanyo and his party (of which I am neither a supporter or fan) what proof do they have of corruption or using these diplomatic moves to their benefit?

They're too busy torturing and jailing the dissidents to make an official statement....Afwerki takes his cues from Kim Jong Il

I pictured Faroole painfully saying this statement while clenching his teeth and putting on a fake smile

I think there is one point that few people on the pro-union side of the debate want to bring up. What incentive is there for SL to join Somalia? Somalia is THE poster child for the term Failed State, in fact the term failed state was invented to describe Somalia as it's state collapse was unprecedented in the international system. Why would Somaliland want to join a country in such a decrepit state when it could forge it's own path and not be subject to the basket case of problems that Somalia experiences.....that's not to say that Somaliland isn't devoid of problems but it's nowhere near the systemic issues that Somalia embodies. Let's take a look at some indexes: 2012 Failed States Index: Somalia #1 / 177 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index 2011 HDI Report: NOT RANKED (too dangerous to even perform a valid assesment) http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf 2012 Corruption Index: 174 / 174 (bottom of the list) http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2012/results/ 2012 Peace Index 158 / 158 (bottom of the list) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index Now who is going to tell me that it is in Somaliland's best interest to be in a political union with Somalia....and no emotional arguments saying our peoples belong together. Just logical reasoning.

Abwaan;909575 wrote: AB, there is no Somalia and Somaliland....There is Somalia and gobollada Waqooyi Galbeed. Correction there is no Somalia and Somaliland.....there is only Somaliland and the "African Union Occupied State of Benadir and Kismayo" See, anyone can use ****** logic to make frivolous points....of which you are an expert

Mintid Farayar;909314 wrote: Che, Hassan Sheikh's recent actions, while vexing for the Somaliland administration, are not existentially threatening. Before that day comes, he'll need to overcome the Jubba challenge, followed by Puntland. The real question is why Hassan Sheikh needs to stick the finger in the Somaliland eye, not by seeking diplomatic recognition, but by appointing the Somaliland ministers in his gov't? And don't tell me it's b/c of the 4.5, because he's abandoned that formula from the beginning in the cabinet make-up. Exactly, although todays events have definitely been a shot in the arm for Mogadisho the balance of power hasn't shifted all that much vis-a-vis Somaliland. Somalia is still under foreign occupation by a multitude of countries, AS is still entrenched in the rural areas and medium sized population centres, the humanitarian situation is precarious and the various factional groups are still vying for power. And funny enough, the federal budget raised by the Somaliland gov in 2013 is still significantly larger than Somalia proper. I think Hassan's visit was a much needed psychological victory but in terms of strategically changing the situation on the ground, not much has changed.

Must be a new record for a user spewing so many anti-SL threads in one week lol and let's be honest, if you think this is rubbish then I'd like to know what you think about the ruins in Moqadisho