Carafaat;920559 wrote: Oba, koopkii trashnimada adaa qaatay. levelkii SOL hoos ayaa u dhigtay.

Khayr;920151 wrote: Is it just me or do they look like a bunch of chefs. :D

NGONGE;920013 wrote: Sayid, I am not. I used to be an Carab who did not know or care about any of it but not anymore saaxib. I say clan is everything and only support SL for clan reasons. It is the only way for anyone to have peace in Somalia. You can support your clan and support the federal government, the two are not mutual exlusive, but don't you think it's all more noble to promote political and economic justice for all clans of Somalia instead of fighting over a bigger share of the pie when there are some who are going without? Plus a non zero-sum model is more conducive for long term peace [Here I'm assuming that you're not some sheep that follows whatever edict your clan proclaims.] You are part of a failed state, one of the reason is qabyalaad,no one is denying that, what i don't understand is how more of 'clan is everything' is going to extricate us out of our current conflict/disagreement? P.s And on the 'pie issue', I believe we can grow our pie, I believe as a people we haven't fufillied our potential economically. No people, or nation has got richer from aid or loans. We need to start tilling, rearing and fishing like we have never done before. And from our savings we can industrialiaze ourselves out of poverty.

Haatu;919552 wrote: Or impose a curfew on the town, lock it down, pour gasoline on the roads and set it alight. Simples.

Oba, stop insulting Jews.

Abu Malik at-Ash'ari (RA) reported: The Messenger of Allah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: Cleanliness is half of faith and al-Hamdu Liliah (Praise be to Allah) fills the scale, and Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah) and al-Hamdu Liliah (Praise be to Allah) fill up what is between the heavens and the earth, and prayer is a light, and charity is proof (of one's faith) and endurance is a brightness and the Holy Qur'an is a proof on your behalf or against you. All men go out early in the morning and sell themselves, thereby setting themselves free or destroying themselves. [Muslim]

^ And how will this help us end the circle of violence?:confused:

Oba, I hope you wish don't come true, from the way you're expressing yourself it seems you're not even fit for guulwadayaal.

^^Islam forbids torture also should our soldiers be conducting themselves as judge, jury and executioners? wouldn't this also embolden the enemy:confused:

xabad;919483 wrote: Because their masters, the Arabs hate them, so naturally the slave has to follow suit. Don't insult the memories of humanist like Rachel Corrie, most Arab nations and peoples don't care about the Palestians...they pay lip service to their plight. The issue here is not hate of jews but the injustices commited but one group to another. Only those who genuinely want to end this circle of violence should comment on this conflict, the rest should just beat it. Find something else to score cheap points with.

Alpha Blondy;919463 wrote: f-ing PISSED OFF! so ANGRY now. like really ANGRY. so PISSED. like really PISSED.

NGONGE;919442 wrote: But reality isn't black and white. Reality is that there IS clan conflict in Somalia. Something both the educated and uneducated know. Only those living in dreamland choose to brush it all under the carpet and pretend that no such things exist, saaxib. The conflict is a political one, so long as we remove violence from our political disagreement then all is healthy. P.s They say you can't teach an old dog a new trick, but I will try...instead of 'clan is everything' why don't you try this new adage 'Somalinimo is everything when it comes to our politics, and that our motto[policy] is 'No Somali left behind'.

NGONGE;919436 wrote: On everyday issues, the geel jire and the phd holder are the same. The only difference is one can articualte his ideas better and the other can't. Isn't this the problem? a geel jire and a Phd holder sharing the same world view. Shouldn't we be expecting the later to be an 'enlightened man/woman' who sees the nuanced part of existence and believes that reality isn't black and white!

underdog;919419 wrote: I went to a "Northern" restaurant last month and the guy chuckled when I asked for moos. The second time I showed up with my own moos. (which is what I usually do when I go to Afghani and Pakistani restaurants) Lol

Malistar, I don't agree with those who want the ban to stay, but a partial ban will allow time for most sections of Somalis to iron out their political differences and create an inclusive admin (also sort out what form federalism will work for the average Faarax). The perception now is that we have a government of a president and his inner circles and clan states that are pushing back the Federal government. Also this idea of expanded ministries isn't helping with the distribution of power. [ There should be an independent Ministry of Health and Ministry of Education etc, etc...]

OdaySomali;919346 wrote: Yep. As it was described to me the entire city is in ruin, public infrastructure is obliterated and there are heaps upon heaps of trash on every street, dire living conditions in general Could someone tell these folks that cleanness is next to godliness. [Prophet [sAW] said: Cleanliness is half of faith...!]

Malika;919385 wrote: ^You must have missed Ngonge's motto - 'Clan is Everything' .... Waxaa laa yiri - there is no difference between an illiterate geeljire to the phd holder of the Somali kind, kuli seem to have the same thinking process when it comes to Somali affairs...lol Exactly right my friend. Couldn't have said it better myself!

It's always baffle me when materialists comment on matters beyond the physical. So I agree with Chubacka! My understanding of 'evil eye' is to do with those who practise malignant witchcraft or malicious envy.

I support the partial lifting of the arms embargo. I believe the FG should be allowed to equip itself with light armoured vehicles, body armoured and helmets, communication equipment, night vision technology etc...the time for lifting of embargo on tanks, helicopters and fighter jets is premature given the nature of mistrust. Also the IC should help us in the building of military barracks and military hospitals across the country.

metta;918857 wrote: The time of playing nice guy is over. For every caught Shabab member, shoot them in the head the same day. If someone has explosives in their house, hang them high. For every person spreading extremism, castrate them. Get rid of these parasites. Death penalty. There is a better way, if the government wants to get rid of the evil scourge of terrorism, warlodism and piracy, then it needs to get legitimacy from all sections of Somalis [ inside and outside the country] and then it will get the full support to defeat these misguided folks. Lets we forget that some of these activities are funded by Somalis from abroad.

"A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property/wealth, for her family status/lineage, for her beauty and for her religion. So choose the woman who is religious." So if you flip over that hadeeth, then a woman marrying for wealth is no crime, just be prepared for her to move on when the money runs out.:eek:

Inaalilaah wa inaa ilaahi Rajicuun.

The Myth of Africa's Rise! BY RICK ROWDEN Why the rumors of Africa's explosive growth have been greatly exaggerated. Recent high growth rates and increased foreign investment in Africa have given rise to the popular idea that the continent may well be on track to become the next global economic powerhouse. This "Africa Rising" narrative has been most prominently presented in recent cover stories by Time Magazine and The Economist. Yet both publications are wrong in their analysis of Africa's developmental prospects -- and the reasons they're wrong speak volumes about the problematic way national economic development has come to be understood in the age of globalization. Both articles use unhelpful indicators to gauge Africa's development. They looked to Africa's recent high GDP growth rates, rising per capita incomes, and the explosive growth of mobile phones and mobile phone banking as evidence that Africa is "developing." Time referred to the growth in sectors such as tourism, retail, and banking, and also cited countries with new discoveries of oil and gas reserves. The Economist pointed to the growth in the number of African billionaires and the increase in Africa's trade with the rest of the world. But these indicators only give a partial picture of how well development is going -- at least as the term has been understood over the last few centuries. From late 15th century England all the way up to the East Asian Tigers of recent renown, development has generally been taken as a synonym for "industrialization." Rich countries figured out long ago, if economies are not moving out of dead-end activities that only provide diminishing returns over time (primary agriculture and extractive activities such as mining, logging, and fisheries), and into activities that provide increasing returns over time (manufacturing and services), then you can't really say they are developing. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/01/04/the_myth_of_africa_s_rise

Desperate actions by a defeated group. its sad there is no such thing as insurance in somalia Somalia PLC can introduce a free-market oriented state enterprise to provide for this type of service.

This piece tells more about the nature of the man at the minbar than the supposed head of state, as for the President he is the product of the 'kacaanka' so expect a bit of African style of leadership .... Also quit the 'dictator' bit, we are not at the level of Mugabe, yet!!