Jacaylbaro;948534 wrote: .. with the Somaliland flag on his suit ... It's ok, the Somali Republic allows tribal flags, even Puntland has one.

Waranle_Warrior;948967 wrote: ~As for this incident I think its right to do it and put a question mark on Mogadishu's almost 'for granted' right to visit Kismayo at will while millions of the peoples in Kismayo, Gedo, Puntland and the larger community's houses in Mogadishu are occupied. The right to visit Kismayo should be earned and not be for granted. I'm glad you have admitted that the Jubbaland dispute has got nothing to do with the constitution by a wider grievances [ a justified one, i must add]. it's better we are honest in our dealing than hide behind politicking that is dangerous and will help no one except those who want to keep us at war. P.s The government needs to address the injustices that were committed in the past 23 years [ to be more comprehensive maybe going back to the past 40 years] whether in Mogadishu or Hargeisa or in other Somali town/city that saw oppression, but we can't get there if we are going to kill a fledgling government just because it's not addressing our immediate concerns. Lets first help it build it's institutions so that it can have the capacity to step up to the plate.

oba hiloowlow;948357 wrote: I dare you xaajiyow.tan kale dee identity crise weyn baa ku hayo sowtaa ahlul beyt sheegetid As for Safferz in this thread, what can I say but applaud.

Tillamook;949097 wrote: ^ Dabro, HAG want to play the old card of getting rid of block for another block and create animosity between the 2 segements of the Block! Not gonna work... Kudos to Faroole for coming out against this petty move

Illyria;945987 wrote: Hmmm, and what can we make of this picture. the looks and the hand-shake. Dubious smiles. Stares away. Eyes never meeting. Kenyatta looking towards Desalegn. Desalegn looking away. Hassan uncertain with his hands sandwiched in between. So what are you saying here? That your President is more dubious than these two characters?

Saalax;949057 wrote: Looking out for where my tax goes is Stockholm syndrome? You have a jungle logic, no wonder Somalia hasn't found peace in over 22 years. Ain't you barking at the wrong tree? Why don't you take your protestation to where your government resides [ Downing Street], Why here, of all the places? P.s You're the type, I believe, if UK Gov were to shower millions to your 'Phantom Republic', you would be here rejoicing. Actually UK gives millions to Hablolanders every year , never seen/read your disapproval before.

Homunculus;943728 wrote: Wow, wishing for clashes and death to justify central government control, kudos. I wish violence on no one, but I can't stop if some warlords want to slug it out. Nor can I stop a fanatic on 'martyrdom operation':(.

Che -Guevara;943720 wrote: Soft target? An entire branch of the Government was almost decapitated and this doesn't bode well for Government that made security the highest priority. How many times would you have to be bombed before you take adequate measures to protect yourself. Just last night, the Deputy Chief Prosecutor was killed. You would imagine after the last well coordinated attack, the Government would atleast make an effort in protecting key figures in the Judiciary or the Government in general. I used 'soft for target', because I doubt it has the same security as lets say the airport, Villa Somalia or the Port. I hope the authority have learnt their lessons cos this won't be last we here from your men. I believe in this struggle, the government and Somali people will eventually prevail iA!!

Oodweyne won't like this, but to feel good, he'll dismiss the United States as a rogue Empire.

Mooge;943575 wrote: judging from her accent and looks, i would be surprised if she is not related to qoslaye. lol. Lol, now this thread makes sense, as ever Mooge is right on the mark!

xabad;943672 wrote: 3 day weekend, my friend your becoming like the president of gambia yahya jameh How is that 3 day week-end if axad is the first day of the week? P.s I'm assuming you were addressing Mad Mulla.

oba hiloowlow;943684 wrote: haa sxb waxkasta la dheela gableey shinbir,dhaanto,zeylici,jaandheer u name it You left out niiko!? We cannot discriminate against our Jaareryweyne brethren.

Che -Guevara;943678 wrote: Are you talking the Government that couldn't protect its own Judiciary Branch? Let's be realistic! Che, no government can protect a soft target from 9 suicidal bombers/commandos [ or whatever number they were] if they wish to attack. You should know this.

Maaddeey;943681 wrote: Gabley Shimbir maa la bilaabay in xeebta lagu dheelo?.

Che -Guevara;943648 wrote: The situation in Kismayo is becoming too sticky for the Government. Any clashes in this city can erode their legitimacy. On the contrary, if [ and that is a big if] the two militia slug it out, then it will allow the government to come in and set up a temporary administration clean of warlords. The Kenyan government will be forced to close rank with SFG in order to insure it doesn't get itself in a quagmire.

Alpha Blondy;943604 wrote: yeah, i agree. just imagine how powerful this 'Republic' would be, ma istidhi? p.s - the population density is 15 per sq km, ee taana la soco. I hope the industrial revolution didn't pass you by? We only need a few functional literate from our population who can operate machines in order to till the land,rear the livestock and catch the fish on our waters. We also don't need our women to produce 15 kids in order to increase our population, I believe a pre and post natal health service, a mass vaccination, clean water and sanitation and finally adequate diet will triple our population in a generation.

xiinfaniin;943640 wrote: ^^Or read it and make sure Hassan Samantar of Galmudug is not disguised as a reporter :D And how do I go about doing that? Making sure that Hassan Samatar is not the head of Laanta Af-Soomaaliga ee VOA.

xiinfaniin;943616 wrote: ^^He is very confused ---that I can say with confidence , I know the guy. But he is a good fellow I doubt if he's confused, maybe he believes in a decentralized unitary state [centralized federalism] for Somalia I suppose to your clan federalism? He will be attending a town hall meeting in MN on the 4th of May where your favourite subject will discussed.

My bad I hope all you accept my apology, from now on I'll avoid the VOA like the plague, next time if I want to copy and paste an article i'll insure it's written by the 'unbiased John Smith' from associated Press, Reuters, BBC [ the white version].....:rolleyes:

NAIROBI — Talks on the creation of the federal state of Jubaland in southern Somalia have made little progress despite months of negotiations. In the meantime, relations between the central government and local actors have become increasingly strained, evidenced by a power struggle over the port city of Kismayo. The tensions have thrown the country's new federal system into doubt. Since the capture of Kismayo by Kenya Defense Forces in October of last year, politicians, elders and local militias have been engaged in talks organized by the eastern African organization IGAD. Over the past month, a meeting of 800 delegates representing local communities from the regions of Gedo, Lower and Middle Juba approved a constitution for the new state. However, some participants have complained that the balance was stacked in favor of more powerful players in the discussions. One of the delegates, who did not want to be named for security reasons, said the conference was heavily influenced by Ras Kamboni militia leader Ahmed Madobe, who helped Kenyan forces liberate Kismayo from al-Shabab. “The conference was supposed to be neutral and every region is to express its views independently,” he said. “There were 870 delegates who approved the constitution, when there were supposed to be 500. Some of these delegates were Ras Kamboni militiamen who were in civilian clothes.” Neither Madobe nor any representative of Ras Kamboni returned calls for comment. Hassan Samantar, a politician and key player in establishing Galmudug state in central Somalia, said clan representation at the conference was also unbalanced. “The problem now is the representation of the elders who will select the delegates based on the regions, so this is really a big headache," he said. "Some groups, they were protesting yesterday that they were not having a fair representation [and] that some clans, they were given for example 10 elders to represent them, others one or two , so there was no balance.” The process of creating Jubaland has attracted the interests of Kenya, Ethiopia, IGAD and the Somali federal government, which is trying to define its relationship with the region of 1.3 million inhabitants. The new Somali constitution ratified last year sets up a system of states around a central government, but some observers say there has been little progress in establishing the mechanisms to make federalism work. Ahmed Soliman, Horn of Africa researcher at Chatham House, a foreign policy institute in London, said there are no clear rules for the founding of Jubaland, and that the uncertainty over the process could be dangerous. “It does seem to me pressure to rush ahead with this, whether or not this means we will see potential conflict over Kismayo or Jubaland remains to be seen, but there is certainly a chance that could happen given the nature of how things are moving ahead,” Soliman said. There are already indications of rising tension, as several sources in Kismayo confirmed that former warlord Barre Hirale, who once controlled the port city for close to nine years, arrived Thursday by sea along with dozens of loyal militia soldiers. Soliman said Hirale’s presence could be a concern to the region and everyone involved in the process. “That would be a concern for the region and it would be in concern whoever in Kismayo is able to uphold the peace because the peace has been relatively sure in making AMISOM coming into Kismayo so you wouldn't want a conflict to start right now, it won’t be good for the process,” said Soliman. The central government has dismissed the Jubaland process as unconstitutional, saying it lacks legitimacy. Mohammed Yusuf 25/04/2013 http://www.voanews.com/content/talks-to-create-jubaland-in-somalia-make-little-progress/1648884.html

Mar la weydiiyay su’aal ahayd inuu jiro kulan dhexmaray isaga iyo madaxda Somaliland ayuu sheegay inuusan jirin, s idoo kalena aysan jirin maamul uu doonayo inuu ka mid noqdo oo aan ahayn midka Soomaaliya . The good Prof is clear where his political loyalty lies, I just hope he isn't harassed by our 'democratic' brethren of Habrolands, when he visits his home town. http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Apr/wararka_maanta26-21740.htm

Alpha Blondy;943554 wrote: this is an interesting pic. it exudes POWER and STRENGTH.....it appears the tables have turned, ma istidhi? the armed forces of Somalia should be catching yemeni criminals and act proactively against external threats.... not used internally. Imagine if you weren't a secessionist, Puntlanders weren't stealth secessionists and jubalanders weren't future secessionists, how powerful would the Somali Republic be ?!

Poor soul, i hope that woman is left in peace...

Che -Guevara;943293 wrote: There's barely state structure. Where do they derive data from? It more about perception, but even that is changing...the SFG is starting to win over the IC. All we need now is establish a federal audit institute and name an auditor-general.