^Stop trolling.

^ Lol

Jacaylbaro;837457 wrote: Mental case ,,, Nothing mental, he's just patriotic... he got the shirt wrong, though, it should have been white.:cool:

^ It's just an estimate on the amount the UN in conjuction with it's agencies plus NGO's raise for Somalia each year. I dont know if the amount includes AMISOM wages.

^ Lol @ Pro Geeljire.

Nepotism, nepotism and nepotism. We all know the whole SL project is a scam.

^ That's right, institutions are one of the trinity of governance, the other two are competent people for those institutions and good policies.

Liban, you need to edit the clan names saxib.

It will be good news indeed, the only problem is that the $1billion that they will spend to serve Somalia from Mogadishu will bring inflationary problem for the poor people and the rest of the Somalis.

Gamal Nkrumah It might seem an odd moment to discuss property development in Somalia's capital Mogadishu. The two-million city is booming, at least the scenic seaside stretch. Mogadishu was renowned for its white-washed walls and crashing waves, historic mosques and colonial architectural gems. Seychelles, Islamic-style. Somali President Sherif Sheikh Ahmed on Tuesday escaped an assassination attempt. The country's militant Islamist group, the Al-Qaeda-associated Al-Shabab (Youth in Arabic) ambushed the presidential motorcade as it approached the Afogye Corridor, Africa and the world's largest concentration of displaced people. Amid the brouhaha, a photographic exhibition entitled "Pictorial Tribute to Africa's Most Wounded City" was staged in Nairobi, neighbouring Kenya's capital. "The memory of the past offers hope for the future," the shows curator Mahmoud Diriye, former head of Mogadishu's museums poetically extrapolated. Expatriates are trickling back to the Somali capital, the tense political situation notwithstanding. Fudged statistics are a nuisance but Somalia does not have crippling external obligations other than to put its house in order. Turkish Airlines is now operating weekly flights to the newly refurbished Mogadishu International Airport, and Istanbul is emerging as the gateway for Somali émigrés returning from Europe and North America to invest in their capital city's unprecedented property boom. Somalis returning from the Gulf Arab states similarly do not have the temerity to question too closely the secular nature of the Somali state in the making. Now, all is change. The Islamist investors are collaborating closely with Gulf Arab financial institutions and Somali property developers and estate agencies to transform the once sleepy backwater, that ended up as a dilapidated war zone, and now aspires to become the new Dubai of the East African coastline. Mogadishu's airport is short of parking space for private jets, and soon at this rate of reconstruction the war-torn Somali capital will no longer be a hardship post. The Islamists are expected to defend their in real estate oligarchies, and their shopping malls and supermarkets just like other less ideologically-inclined Somali capitalists. Yet the intrepid investors are descending on Mogadishu with an avaricious eagerness. This is what the Somali president, he himself with a cat's nine lives, would call a courageous decision. He is likely to gratify the fat cats in the month ahead, assuming he survives the artillery fire and anti-aircraft guns of his adversaries, Al-Shabab. Somali President Sherif Ahmed has demonstrated at least that he is sensitive to the concerns of the local and expatriate entrepreneurs, nearly all of whom support him for their selfish interests. Al-Shabab militants, on the other hand, are viewed suspiciously as troublemakers. To make matters worse for Mogadishu's poor and disadvantaged, berthing charges for the luxury yachts of the rich are ridiculously low, while Somali fishermen are chased and hounded in Somalia's own territorial waters. Some innocent fishermen are dismissed s pirates. Nine warships of European Union powers -- France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal patrol the waters around Mogadishu. Over the past decade some Somali businessmen have done well out of the war. Now most conclude that peace is best for business. Kenya's navy also patrols the adjacent coastal areas of southern Somalia. There has been heavy fighting in recent weeks between the Kenyan troops stationed along the border with Somalia Al-Shabab. The Kenyan authorities are collaborating closely with neighboring Ethiopia and the African Union (AU). Cooperating with Ethiopia and the AU has given Kenya access to Somalia. Like Ethiopia, Kenya has a sizeable ethnic Somali population. The Somalis of Kenya are focusing on the challenges ahead in Somalia especially regarding Al-Shabab. The political chaos in Somalia has forced the military intervention of the AU Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) with the full backing of Western powers. Al-Shabab fighters have fired anti-aircraft shots on two foreign warships. This is widely seen as their swan song. Indeed the most important military event in Somalia this week has been the joint AU and Somali government troops overrunning the Afgoye Corridor, Hailed as an unprecedented military breakthrough, the triumph of AMISOM spells the beginning of the end for Al-Shabab. The movement's days as a military force to be reckoned with are numbered. With peace comes a new sense of nationalism and harking back to the good old days. The Somali capital is fast becoming a plutocrat's paradise. Five-star hotels and skyscrapers are transforming the Mogadishu skyline. Yes, income differentials are fast widening. Al-Shabab insurgents are regrouping and they want to wreck the city. "Al-Shabab are on the run," observed Lieutenant General Andrew Gutti commander of the 11,000-strong AMISOM peacekeeping contingency in Somalia. "There was some resistance but we have crushed it," Somali army commander-in-chief Mohamed Abdullah said, praising his troops this week after re-taking Afogye. The Afgoye Corridor is an Islamist stronghold. Afogye, 30 km northwest of Mogadishu, is of tremendous strategic importance. The joint AMISOM-Somali forces crossed the River Shabelle, another critical strategic and productive agricultural area. Five journalists were reported dead in Somalia during the joint AU-Somali government troops bid to rid Afgoye of Islamist forces. "It is truly a great gain... the operation was very successful and we are now very close to Afgoye," Somali Defence Minister Hussein Arab Isse told reporters in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa. "The plan for the next 48 hours is not only to capture Afgoye, but to go further," Somalia's defence minister expounded. Hundreds of thousands of displaced Somalis have set up makeshift shelters and shacks in Afgoye. More than 400,000 people, a third of displaced Somalis, live in temporary accommodation in the Afgoye Corridor. Somalia has until August to set up a permanent government, but the transitional government of the country has consistently failed to meet key deadlines. Somalia, a predominantly Muslim nation, celebrates the holy fasting month of Ramadan which this year commences in mid-July. Source Al-Ahram Weekly

By Jonathon Burch ISTANBUL | Fri Jun 1, 2012 (Reuters) - The United Nations should beef up its operation in Somalia, and other countries who want to help the war-torn state should actually move in and set up bases there, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday. Erdogan's direct remarks at a international conference on Somalia in Istanbul, the second hosted in Turkey in two years, was the latest sign of his administration's growing interest and clout in Africa. "Without living there you cannot devise the correct policies and you cannot help. I invite the international community to open representative offices," Erdogan told the conference attended by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, the Somali interim president and delegations from more than 50 countries. "We have really struggled to make Somalia's voice heard, to make those who do not see or feel what's going on in Somalia, see and feel," he said. Most aid agencies funding projects in Somalis are actually based in neighboring Kenya or further afield. Many moved their headquarters out of the country years ago to avoid kidnappings, looting and fighting between al-Qaeda allied militants and Somali troops backed by African forces. Somalia has been mired in turmoil since the 1991 overthrow of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Erdogan made a high-profile and whirlwind visit to the Somali capital in August last year, bringing his family and a plane full of ministers and consultants. For all its brevity, the trip was still the first time a non-African leader had visited the country in almost 20 years. While the visit was aimed at drawing attention to the famine that swept across the Horn of Africa nation, it was also part of Ankara's wider strategy of positioning itself as a growing regional power and influential voice within the Muslim world. Turkey has since opened an embassy in Mogadishu, built hospitals and schools and started direct flights between the two countries. It has also sent hundreds of Somali students to study in Turkey. While Turkey has been largely applauded for its assistance in Somalia, critics say Ankara's headfirst policy and relative inexperience in the region leaves it vulnerable to manipulation by different political factions. PRESENCE ON THE GROUND The Turkish leader also called on the United Nations to review its mission in Somalia and strengthen its presence there. Speaking after the conference, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who has visited Somalia since Erdogan's trip, said his special representative had been based in Mogadishu since December and urged others to follow. "We agreed on the need to insure that international assistance is predictable, transparent and coordinated. This can best be done when member states have a presence on the ground," Ban told journalists. He called for other countries to follow Turkey's example by opening embassies in Somalia. Delegates at the conference discussed ways to support Somalia during a transition period that will see the creation of a new constitution, parliament and president.

For me I will support any group of Somalis that addresses international communities concerns which are our concerns too, i.e Piracy, terrorism, lawlessness, but without selling out our interests. Somali politicians and leadership will have to establish women and minority rights, eradicate poverty, educate our masses, Improve primary and secondary health, improve our agriculture and livestock output, create a viable fishing industry, create home grown industries, financial sector, etc etc etc There is a monumental task awaiting us, this is a chance for all of us to contribute however small it may seem in rebuilding our country!! May God help us.

^True.

Abwaan, thanks for shedding light on this group, they sound decent enough, so why is the International community scared of them, is it because they wont sell out?

Libaax-Sankataabte;837251 wrote: Ilaahayoow ceebtayada astur. Ameen!

MashaAllah, everyone is looking good!! :cool:

InshaAllah, Uganda,Burundi and Djibouti troops will replace them. I don't trust them. I include Ethiopia.

Lool @ this thread.

^^ Isn't he part of the Ala-sheikh crew?

^ The Speaker is a rich man, I don't think he needs this type of money, it's a small change for him.

^^ The developed world spend $50 Billion a year on aid in Africa, in return they take from the continent nearly $350 Billion in interest payments, capital flight and profit, each year.:eek: Of the $4trillion of debt that the World bank and IMF is owed by the developing world, nearly 50% is owed by Africans.

^^ Only a brave soul would want to enter Greece now, kudos to them.

^ We need competent institutions, period. Otherwise this type of mud slinging will always be with us, just cos the rest of Africa is corrupt doesn't mean we should tolerate it in our country. We should be a beacon to others, now that we are starting from the scratch in building our institutions, it's good time to do it.

Hoteladii ay xalay daganayeen ayaa laga waayay ku dhawaad 30-qof kuwas oo iskugu jira Odayaal, Bulshada Rayidka iyo Ganacsato la sheegay in lagu casuumay shirkaas. Lol

Turkey, a rising nation with an activist foreign policy, has emerged as a prominent advocate for stability in Somalia, opening an embassy there last year and sending humanitarian aid worth $51 million, with more in the pipeline. This year, Turkish Airlines launched flights to Mogadishu as part of what Bekir Bozdag, Turkey's deputy prime minister, called a campaign to "break the loneliness and the exclusion of Somalia from the rest of the world." Aid worth $51? Shouldn't it be $350m?!