Marksman, The next government will be an interim one, working with a provisional constitution though It will be more legitimate than the current TFG and will probably last 3 years. You do remember that we are in the middle of a war, it will take time sometime before we have full and fair election.

Muran = argumentation Bilash = Free Dood

Dar-dar la geliyo = speedy? quick action? [correct] Muran P.s Abwaan, you need to follow the rules and give a Somali word.

Dhaan Dhaan =Mentally Retard. [ Correct.] Dar dar

Bluelicious;838800 wrote: Juxa has solved my word, talaago means fridge. Abiteey = Drink? Am I correct? Argagaxiso. Argagaxiso= Terrorist/ terror Dan dan

http://radiomuqdisho.net/guddoomiyaha-maxkamada-ciidamada-oo-maxkamada-ka-furay-dagmada-afgooyedaawo-sawirrada/

Men-Mire, Dubed, Bille, Warfa, Rooble Women- Sagaal, Shashahley, Amira?, Fartun, Siirado, Kaltun,

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Maadeey turned up here a few days ago, I can see he has just logged on!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/luxury-dining-on-mogadishu-beachfront-signals-continued-evolution-toward-peace-in-somalia/2012/06/04/gJQA0xtODV_story.html P.s Can some1 put the pictures here, please!

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2012/05/201252871627303414.html

^ Somalis, good at reinventing the wheel.

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21. The Conference reiterated the need for effective rule of law institutions. The Conference stressed the importance of a broad consultative process in developing a plan to strengthen justice and correctional institutions and called for the establishment of a task force consisting of the TFG and international partners. 22. The Conference rejected all forms of terrorism, violations of human rights and violent extremism which endanger the lives of the Somali people, as well as regional and international peace. The Somali population has suffered a great deal at the hands of violent extremists and participants agreed to work together to help build capacity to confront the root causes of terrorism, tackle terrorism in the region, and disrupt their travel to and from Somalia. It agreed to work with the Global Counter-Terrorism Forum and other international and regional bodies to deliver this important work. 23. It condemned the use of child soldiers and sexual violence by the combatant sides. The Conference also deplored the recent attacks against journalists. Those who are responsible must be held to account. The Conference called on all Somalis to renounce unlawful acts of violence, to operate within a constitutional framework and to support the ongoing political process. Those who refuse to do so, and instead engage in or support violence and crime, should be dissuaded, isolated, or otherwise prevented from derailing the Roadmap and the process of Somali reconciliation and state-building. The Conference resolved to develop further a programme to support those who renounce violence. 24. The Conference reiterated that the problem of piracy off the coast of Somalia requires a comprehensive approach on land as well as at sea that addresses the root causes of the phenomenon and combines development, capacity-building, rule of law, deterrence and prosecution on the basis of UNSC Resolution 2020 (2011) and full compliance of international law. It called for the reinforcement of Somali-owned judicial capacities. The Conference looks forward to discussing the issue of piracy in depth and at length during the UAE's Second High Level Piracy Conference "A Regional Response to Maritime Piracy: Enhancing Public Private Partnership and strengthening global engagement to be held in Dubai on 27-28 June 2012 and the International Piracy Conference to be held in Perth, Australia on 15-17 July, 2012. The Conference further supports the ongoing work of the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast ofSomalia, including its forthcoming 12th Plenary Meeting to be held inNew Yorkon 25 July 2012. Local stability 25. The Conference recognized that the Somali leaders with the support of the international community face a huge challenge in ensuring a stable and secure environment in the recovered areas as soon as possible. A power vacuum must not be allowed to develop in those areas. 26. We took note of the work undertaken by the TFG and local governance structures to promote stabilization and reconciliation in the newly recovered regions in Somalia. We welcomed the establishment of the National Policy for Reconciliation and Stabilization in these areas and noted the need for continued political cooperation, through a transparent and inclusive process that facilitates the development of effective governance and stability. The Conference further takes note of the TFG national reconciliation and stabilization plan for the newly recovered areas and urges regional and international partners, including AU, IGAD and the UN to support this comprehensive plan. 27. The Conference called upon the international community to consider further ways and means of stabilizing and securing emerging areas of stability and sustaining these through governance programs. The Stability Fund established at the London Conference shall serve this purpose and thus should be supported. Economic Development and Recovery 28. The Conference recognized the continued fragility of the humanitarian situation. With international support in the summer of 2011,Somaliawas able to overcome the famine and avoid further exacerbation of the humanitarian crisis. However, more than 2.5 million Somalis remain in crisis and the risk of a further deterioration persists. The Conference called for immediate, unhindered access to all populations in need, respecting agreed humanitarian principles. 29. The Conference recognized the primary role of the Somali authorities as well as the important role of the international community in assisting Somalis in strengthening resilience. The Conference welcomed the Partnership Forum's efforts to build consensus on preventive and preemptive policies in this regard, and pledged to continue the dialogue. 30. The Conference underlined the importance of finding durable solutions for refugees and internally displaced persons (IDPs). It stressed in particular that protection of civilians in accordance with international humanitarian and refugee law must be maintained at all times by all parties. 31. The Conference recognized the need for a new phase in the approach toSomalia's economic recovery. 32. The Conference underscored its belief that without special and equal emphasis on the reconstruction area, work in other spheres would be incomplete. Starting to rebuild Somalia's infrastructure in Mogadishu and other areas will contribute to Somalis' confidence in their future and constitute an incentive and encouragement for all segments of Somaliato reconcile. 33. Following the outcomes of the working groups on the first Istanbul Conference onSomalia, participants took note of the discussion of the four Partnership Forums on 31 May, attended by participants from Government, international organizations, donors, civil society and the private sector. It stressed that large-scale multi-year predictable financing was urgently needed both for infrastructure projects and to enhance the resilience of Somali communities. The Conference recognized the importance of harnessing the skills and capacity of the private sector and the Somali diaspora (Please see Annex 1.) 34. The Conference noted the importance of creating the right investment climate and agreed that offering conditional investment guarantees will provide a strong incentive for economic development with equity. 35. The Conference emphasized the importance of encouraging equitable growth to reduce poverty and deprivation in Somalia including through the promotion of inclusive business practices and service provision. Participants agreed on the need for capacity building in the public and private sectors. It was noted that institutional development was needed to ensure government can establish a socially responsible and business-friendly regulatory environment. They recognized the importance of diversification of energy sources, improvements in the quality and scope of the transport infrastructure in a way that supports economic development and investment in urban water supply, rural water supply, water resource management and water governance. 36. The Conference resolved to continue the discussion through further public-private dialogue, supported by the United Nations as well as the Istanbul International Centre for Private Sector in Development. 37. The Conference welcomed ongoing negotiations to establish a mutual accountability regime built around the proposed Joint Financial Management Board (JFMB). It urged the early conclusion of the negotiations establishing the JFMB and noted that the international community remains committed to helping Somalia better regulate its finances and development assistance. 38. The Conference welcomes the establishment of a multi-donor Trust Fund for post-Transition financing. Conclusion 39. The Conference expected the ICG to be held inRomeon 2-3 July to take stock of the progress made here inIstanbuland give the final impetus to the very last part of the Transition. 40. The Conference commended the UN, the African Union, the IGAD, the EAC, the EU, the OIC and League of Arab States, and other bilateral partners for their relentless efforts in stabilizingSomalia. It welcomed the relocation of UNPOS and encouraged the UN to continue to relocate staff inside Somalia Donors are encouraged to support this. The Conference also encouraged other organizations and countries to increase their presence in Somalia.

document Istanbul — World leaders gathered in the past tow-days at Istanbul II conference, made a declaration to Somali's future. 1. The Second Istanbul Conference on Somalia, under the theme "Preparing Somalia's Future: Goals for 2015," took place on 31st May and 1st June 2012. Maintaining the multi-dimensional and multi-layered approach of the first Istanbul Conference in 2010 onSomalia, it was attended by high level representatives from 57 countries and 11 international and regional organizations, as well as by the TFG leadership, the regional administrations, and representatives from wide-ranging segments of Somali society, including youth, women, business community, elders, religious leaders and the Diaspora. Introduction 2. The Conference reaffirmed its respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity, political independence and unity ofSomalia. It agreed that for genuine peace to take hold inSomalia, Somali people should seek dialogue, reconciliation and political cooperation including in establishing inclusive, accountable and legitimate governance. The Conference is grateful for the wide-scale and strong Somali participation, including women, in this Conference, and the powerful and meaningful messages they have pronounced. 3. The Conference noted that at this critical period inSomalia's history, the security, political, social and economic achievements of the past year have given Somalis and the international community a renewed hope for the future. Somalia has made considerable progress towards achieving stability, security and reconciliation: this opportunity should not be missed. The Conference emphasized that August 2012 is the beginning of a new phase of peace-building, in which all Somalis would contribute to peace and have their voices heard. 4. The Conference highlighted that primary responsibility for establishing a political solution in the country lies with Somalis. The role of the international community is to support Somalis to provide leadership and ownership in rebuilding a functioning state and local governments that can provide security, ensure the rule of law and respect for human rights, provide basic social services and create an enabling environment that allows for economic opportunity for all its citizens. 5. It reconfirmed the importance of the London Conference that constituted a milestone in gathering the international momentum onSomalia, and pledged to ensure a continued coherent and cooperative international approach. Political 6. The Conference reiterated that the transitional period will come to an end in August 2012 in accordance with the Kampala Accord, the Roadmap, the Garowe I and II Principles, the Galkayo Agreement and re-affirmed commitment made by the Signatories to the Roadmap through the Addis Ababa Communique. It called for the timely implementation of these decisions and delivery of pledged funds. The Conference commended the convening of the Traditional Elders inMogadishuwho are carrying out their task of selecting the members of the Constituent Assembly and the new Parliament. It welcomed their efforts to ensure that women meaningfully participate in the process and constitute 30% of the Constituent Assembly and the new Parliament and the role of women is enshrined in the constitution. 7. The Conference welcomed the intention that the Constituent Assembly adopts the provisional constitution ofSomalia. It highlighted the importance of Somali ownership of the constitution through a public debate and future adoption through a referendum. The Conference also commended the ongoing public consultations and civic education process in order to allow the Somali people to have their voices heard and participate in the political process. The Conference urged the Roadmap signatories to expand this effort to include newly recovered areas. 8. The Conference expressed the firm expectation that the selection process of the leaner and more representative Federal Parliament is completed in a fair and transparent way without any hindrance and that the elections for the positions of Speaker (and Deputies), and President by the new Parliament are carried out smoothly by 20 August 2012. 9. The Participants reiterated their firmness in not allowing internal and external actors or groups to disrupt the smooth implementation of the end of the Transition. In this context, they commended the joint AU-IGAD-UN letter of May 2012 to such potential actors inSomalia. They agreed to consider appropriate follow-up action against those judged to be blocking progress in the political process. 10. The Conference reiterated the crucial need for the international community to support dialogue thatSomalilandand the TFG have agreed to pursue. 11. The Participants looked forward to the beginning of a new political dispensation, with a new Parliament and Government, and emphasized the importance of those institutions coming to fruition through a more representative, transparent and legitimate process. 12. In keeping with the London Communique, the Conference reiterated that respect for human rights must be at the heart of the peace process. It welcomed the Memorandum of Understanding signed between the Transitional Federal Government and the United Nations on 11 May 2012, and called on the Somali authorities to follow through with their commitment to uphold human rights and the rule of law, and put an end to the culture of violence and impunity, and bring about accountability. The Conference called for all parties to commit themselves to transitional justice mechanisms in the Post-Transition period. 13. The Conference emphasized that in the post-Transition period, the new political dispensation in Somalia must begin with a new program aimed at re-establishing of state and local institutions and administrative structures, based on and complementary to the current Roadmap including the newly recovered areas. 14. The Conference noted need to adjust international support to the political structures inSomaliaand called on the UN to review the shape of its future engagement inSomalia. Security and Justice 15. The Conference agreed on the need to revitalize funding arrangements. The Conference took note of the proposal for the establishment of a new "Rebuilding and Restructuring Fund for the Somali Security Sector" initiated byTurkeyto offer additional support to the Somali security forces. 16. The Conference recognized the need for the international community to continue to support the re-establishment of a professional, inclusive, disciplined and well-equipped security apparatus, including the Somali national army, police, navy, coastguard and intelligence agencies, as well as mechanisms to ensure civilian oversight of the security sector. The Conference emphasized the urgency to approve and implement the National Security and Stabilization Plan and the need to bring all Somali forces under a unified command. In this context, it recognized the significant contributions that the EU, including through the EU Training Mission, theUSandItalyare providing in support of the Somali security sector institutions. The Conference encouraged broader support to these institutions. 17. The Conference commended the ongoing support of the international community for AMISOM, particularly by the United Nations, the European Union, IGAD member-states and theUSand other bilateral partners. The Conference called on new donors to provide financial support to AMISOM troops including salaries, entitlements, reimbursement of contingent-owned equipment (COE), and enabling assets. 18. The Conference praised the efforts of the African Union through AMISOM and particularly those ofUgandaandBurundiwho have made troop contributions to AMISOM, and looking forward to the completion of troop deployments fromDjibouti,Sierra LeoneandKenya. Today AMISOM, alongside its Somali Security Force allies is the main military instrument in ensuring security and stability inSomalia. We emphasized that the TFG and AMISOM have to be strongly supported by the international community at this critical juncture to meet objectives. 19. The Conference agreed that insecurity in Somalia, including sustained inter clan conflict, persistent violence, illegal charcoal trading, misappropriation of funds, piracy, kidnapping, terrorism and human rights abuses and violations, is exacerbated by the crisis emanating from the deficiency of the state structures and institutions in large parts of the country. It condemned all acts of violence against civilians, including journalists, and humanitarian workers in violation of international humanitarian law and human rights law. 20. The Conference reiterated its commitment to coordinate its efforts in support to the security and justice sectors through a re-invigorated Joint Security Committee and its technical working groups and looked forward to discussing proposals in this regard.

Business Recorder Sunday, June 03, 2012 For the first time in three-and-a-half years Somali farmers in the strategic Afgoye region outside Mogadishu say they can breath a sigh of relief, as the Islamist insurgent group al-Shabaab has been ousted from their lands. Farmer Hassan Arab says he is overjoyed by the new "freedoms" brought to the area this week, after Somalia government soldiers backed by African Union troops sent al-Shabaab fighters fleeing. "The (Islamist) regime here in Afgoye and the nearby villages used to force farmers to pay heavy taxes. Otherwise they would either label you as a heretic or their fighters might even kill you in cold blood," says Arab. Farmers interviewed by dpa said al-Shabaab would impose taxes equal to about 40 to 50 per cent of their income, leaving them with little means to care for their families. Al-Shabaab used the money to finance their war against the Somali government, ongoing since 2007. Additionally, they often stole food to feed their fighters. The group would also kill or torture anyone thought to be supporting the government. It instituted strict Islamic Sharia law, which included limb amputations and stoning as punishments for alleged offences. Local businessman Omar Hashi says that with al-Shabaab on the run, he can again look to make money in the Afgoye region. "We will invest in local farmers living here in Afgoye, and that will lead to better production. And, it will not be as oppressive as when we had to work with the al-Shabaab administration," Hashi told dpa. The freeing of Afgoye, located about 30 kilometres from the war-torn capital, has also been good news for the residents of Mogadishu. In the days since the AU forces beat al-Shabaab, trucks of fruits and vegetables have once again been making their way to the city for the first time in years, lowering prices. The new influx of produce is a welcome sign for another reason too. The goods are coming from some of the areas hardest hit by the drought and famine last year, which killed tens of thousands of people. The rains have finally come and are allowing farmers to get back to their main task of feeding the nation. While production levels are low, any improvement is seen as a positive step. But some farmers, having lived through 21 years of civil war, are wary of rejoicing too soon. They want to make sure al-Shabaab is soundly defeated before they believe a new dawn is on its way. "If we want to plant new produce, like mango, maize, bananas or grains, we have to be certain al-Shabaab is losing control not only over the Afgoye region but the entire Lower Shabelle province," says farmer Ahmeday Isak. A resident of Qoryoley, a small village in the province still technically under the control of al-Shabaab, Isak is worried the militants might yet stage a comeback. He says the militant group's tax regime and brutal methods of control wrecked the quaint farming area - and he worries the damage may be permanent. "Herders and camel owners did not want to see al-Shabaab taking their livestock without paying money for the animals. Residents here have no leanings towards this so-called Jihad idea which al-Shabaab is talking about," Isak says. Here in Qoryoley, some farmers gave up farming because of the high taxes by al-Shabaab. Others just got up and fled from here and went to Mogadishu. Now they are not sure if they want to come back and rebuild their farms," added Isak. The farmers also admit that while the government forces are largely seen as liberators, the new soldiers in town can often be brutal too. The Somali government regularly fails to pay its troops, who then go on to steal from the locals as a way of earning a salary. Somalia President Sharif Sheikh Ahmed visited Afgoye this week. Part of the reason for his visit was to calm local concern that they would come under another unfair regime of unaccountable men with guns. The president - whose convoy came under attack during the visit, highlighting how insecure the area still remains - also warned his soldiers to be concerned for the well being of the population. The Somali government says that if it gains the support of the population and continues to receive international support it can capitalise on the gains against al-Shabaab and succeed in rebuilding a country that has been at war with itself for a generation.

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I have come to the conclusion that XX likes trolling, sometimes.

Burahadeer, can you make gist of what this woman is on about? http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/somali-y-chromosome-study/ P.s I couldn't access the other sight for obvious reasons.

Yep, the only way is up!

^^ Well said, I never bought this myth that we are descendant of some Arab clans, if any arab individual came to our land and married from us then their genetic code would have been absorbed by our already existing gene pool. They wouldn't have made a dent on us.

^^ Ouch!

^^ Jews and Arabs can't claim anything, they are semetic people....meaning they are descendants of two or more group. Im not sure if Berbers are considered semites too.

Imo, I believe developing countries wether Muslim or not should have high alcohol and cigarattes tax. And the west should consider putting a 20% sales tax on junk food.

^ I think you and OP are just making a lot of suppositions and assumptions, so Arabs and Somalis can't claim what? I didn't get your point.