Apophis;862177 wrote: And you're Maaddeey's slightly more liberal disguise right Ok, maybe you're not Ganarqsi, but this "militant atheist" is definitely you. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/66417-Any-rationalist-observing-Ramadan?highlight=freeman

Nin-Yaaban;862119 wrote: Chimera keep updating this bro. Very nice. + 1

aero;862015 wrote: I was wondering who she looked like until I was forced to watch the Real Housewives of New Jersey and saw Joseph Wakile then I was like bingo! She's a chocolate version of Mr. Wakile Aero, are you saying Mr Joseph Wakile looks like a dyke?:eek:

Garnaqsi/Apophis, Damn!.. I think, I should create another account so that I can laugh at my own jokes.

Shss!, You don't want to resurrect Xaaji Xanjuuf, debating/arguing with him, always, leaves me exhausted!

Oba, I'll take your word for it. Let the good times roll on.

Tillamook, I wont advocate, selective justice [ his clan will see it as victimization], I just hope he disappears to Dubai or somewhere he can enjoy his loot with condition he stays away from Somali governance for good. His clan deserves to be represented by educated, competent and corruption free politicians. [ A remedy for all Somali clans]

Apophis;860608 wrote: What she says resonates with me because I've personally observed these kinds of behaviours. I really think we're in denial. How is her working from a racist platform i.e joining right wing groups, is going to help our situation?:confused: For me she comes out as a self hating Somali and an Uncle Tom.

DoctorKenney;861996 wrote: I've long held the view that Sharif Hassan is a degenerate politician who not only is incompetent, but is extremely corrupt and dishonest. He isn't fit to run a Post Office, let alone be a senior Government official. He's exactly the type of poisonous person which the Somali Government needs to rid itself of Good riddance Wow, strong words but, I can't disagree with your sentiment. I just hope he doesn't go and form a clan state and become nuisance to the central government.:eek:

Apophis;861993 wrote: everything is fine thinking has destroyed the African Americans & Caribbean communities; we maybe next (already the rare phenomenon of 'single parents' and fatherless children is common, at least in Europe). Lol. Apophis is advocating the return to "back to basics" and "family values". The problem of single mothers or absent fathers is prevalent wherever Somalis reside. Nomadic Somalis men are known for their fathering of children and then moving on to next fertile plains in order spread their seeds. I will describe Somalis to be serial monogamists [ because of high divorce rates with the occasional polygamist in their midst.]

Apophis;861954 wrote: Sorry to burst your respective bubbles but pay attention to the highlighted keywords. Ganarqsi/The Freeman or whatever other names you use on this forum, my criticism is your use of anecdotal evidence[ your experience] to support this woman's factual fallacy/generalization. Maybe I didn't make my self clear enough.

Garnaqsi;861167 wrote: I highly doubt the honesty of those who say what she said is not true. In my experience, all of what she said is true for at least 80% of Somalis, except perhaps the violence part. I volunteered in a Somali community centre in my school days and was so shocked! Lol. Garnaqsi is using anecdotal evidence to come up with the 80% statistics. Coming from a man who relies on "factual objectivity" this is very depressing reading indeed. :eek:

ElPunto;861899 wrote: Figure it out Mario. There is nothing to figure out, I saw how you were attacking Aaliyah on the other thread to work out your type.

ElPunto;861885 wrote: ^Somalia - apparently you and I are twins - according to the guy who joined in January 2012. Argue your point here - otherwise stop acting like a dhoocil Mario. What's me joining in January got to do with anything? Lol

Somalia;861882 wrote: Ok, I am fair game , but Abdiweli Mohamed is not a qabilist, I wonder why Abtigiis is so much against him, he's going out of his way to say his point. I agree, Abdiweli hasn't been bad, so far, and he has also been frustrating Faroole by not becoming his poodle. I hope he continues being an inclusive PM/President. I just hope he cleans the Gov from corruption instead of absolving people from paying taxes just cos they claim to be government contractors. Everybody should pay their taxes and then claim rebate with proof of work they have done. As you know, pigs will fly before that happens.

I share OP's cynicism. The most clan zealots Somalis I have met were graduates from western universities. You're right to Abtiigis, El Punto sounds like our SOL resident. Mr Somalia [ It should read Mr Puntlander]

LayZie G.;861784 wrote: But the coverage was less than amazing. We had to rely on audio to get the news. Universal TV should be booed off the air, they are terrible. I am watching SOMALI Channel and the coverage is fine. They are electing the deputy speaker now. P.s Glad both Sakiin and Galayr are out. They are both divisive figures.

^No single group can claim monopoly of God as you have admitted.[ God is one and his religion is one but, his rituals and practices differ in different times and places]. For the believers, Islam is the final manifestation of the same message that was given to the first man to ever know God [Adam]. Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in God and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. [Quran 2:62]

I agree Nin Yaaban, Afghanistan is war Zone and there is a fog of war, thats why I added the caveat: "if it's true.." For all we know it could be a tribal massacre or political crimes. We should still condemn all these senseless murders.

Apophis;861154 wrote: I guess if you claim (through scripture) all artefacts of other cultures then every thing originates with Islam. No we don't claim other cultures artifacts, but we follow those who were guided of the people before us in their righteous foot step. The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in God and His angels and His scriptures [Torah, Psalms, Gospels] and His messengers [...Abraham, David, Moses Jesus]- We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (Quran 2:285)

If this is true, then there cannot be doubt that it is a crime against humanity. I hope these transgressors pay, if not in this world, then the next. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/27/taliban-behead-17-afghan-partygoers

Abu-Salman, with all due respect me and you are talking chalk and cheese. The examples you quoted, from Italy, China and Pakistan are mentioning people who are eating healthy and in a congruous environment. I'm talking about people who have nothing to eat and live in poor sanitation and lack clean water[hence my use of the word poverty].

Gaariye Ilaahay caafimaad ha siiyee waa gabayaa wayn oo ku caan baxa Tima-cade dabadii inuu jiilka la dagaalanka qabyaalada uu hogaankooga yahay. ALLE cimrigiisa ha dheereyo ee ku xusuuso ereyadan. Isn't Somaliland a clan project. How do you secessionists square your clan agenda with this man's enlightenment?:confused:

Lol @ Garnaqsi, do you have to have an argument with theists on every thread? Why don't you enjoy your freedom from religion and leave us to worship sky pixie/imaginary friend [ or what you call the monster of Loch ness]. And how is fasting a blunder?

Naxar Nugaaleed;861119 wrote: Ain't that the truth Though I don't doubt if the neo-cons, the extreme right and the tea partiers had their way, they would do that. I know its difficult to put people in chains in the 21 century, but by cutting welfare, medicare then you can sure have a lot of them end up in the streets.[ if they have managed to avoid jail by then] P.s There was a shocking Youtube video on poverty in America by Al Jazeera [ she was reporting from Los Angeles] that I wanted to put here but, it's gone missing.