Narniah;869637 wrote: Raula lol so it's strictly sijui for you huh that's understandable considering you are one (am I right)?. Thanks for the support it's appreciated. I don't think there is a thread titiled 'would you marry a farax' but i'm sure it would cause a lot unnecessary drama though and many disputes. /: I'm aware of this and I'd like to conclude that I'm not all for this. However, we must ask ourselves why? I imagine they were either born/bred here or grew up here from a very young age. It's hard growing up in two different cultures and balancing that as an adult becomes even more challenging. I think the reason some of these sisters accept less from reverts, is because they don't always have the support from their families (even in the case where the parents are ok with it's the extended family that creates issues behind the scenes. This can be ignored but it still has a negative affect on the entire process. When you have the love/support from your family, I think you have a room to think more of yourself and demand accordingly. I also think the families in a lot of cases undermine their daughters indirectly and treat them differently when they bring a non-Somali man. When a Girl brings a Somali guy the family wants to immediately help out with the wedding, outdo the mans family, show how much they love their daughter. There's a sense of closeness/Love, you feel like you have a family. Unfortunately this is not the case when the girl marries a revert. They know this deep down that's why they're accepting of less. The family too knows there's no other Somali family that they need to impress, It's just a revert his family are most likely gaal so who cares what they think of us right? Were they Somali, the family would be bending backwards to make a positive impression on the in laws. I know a friend of my sister who married a revert. When her older sister married a Somali guy. Everyone in her family helped out with the wedding. The girl was treated like a princess (the way a bride is suppose to be treated) She got suitcases of the most expensive traditional clothes/Gold/Money as gifts. However when the younger girl got married, she just had a small nikah , no one gave her gifts or even suggested she too should have a wedding at all. It was so sad cause I know both of the sisters and the apparent injustice at play was for all to see. These are one of the ignored factors that contribute to the problem you mentioned. Brother I think you need to read my post above. Your post is filled with generalizations. You are just highlighting the 'problem' but you avoid to discuss the 'cause' or why this happens. As long we keep turning a blind eye to the 'whys' we will never move forward or make positive changes. You make some very valid and insightful points which i haven't considered before.

Lool, i enjoy reading ur posts narniah. Congrats on getting ur first job, it's a very important milestone because nowadays employers value job experience just as much if not more than education. I know many university grads who cant get jobs because they have little to no experience to speak of. So even if u don't really enjoy this job, take solace in the fact that ur setting urself up for success later on in the future.

You do realize that his video has only 153 views right?

The Zack;872497 wrote: LOL@the afartan gubatay ee elementary school classroom isugu timid. Sooyaaal iga dheh.... Adeer kan buugga qoray u sheega haddii Sayd Maxamed jiri laheyn in maanta magaciisa iyo kan aabihiis ahaan laheyn Paul John. Ninka dib u islaamiyay buu wax ka sheegi. Wallahi i truly feel sorry for u if u believe this.

gooni;872379 wrote: Sayidku wuxuu ahaa sheekh wuxuuna halgankiisa ka bilaabay barbara markuu indhaha saaray ilmo yaryar oo mucatab ama saliib loo xiray waalidkii dhalayna aqoon diimeed ka ardnaayee(SIIRA ADWAL MINAL CUMUR) And here we go again with make belief tales and revisionist history propogated by our ilma jabarti brothers.

drawing a parallel between a hospital morgue and the aftermath of a suicide bombing, the simple mindedness of some ppl is mind boggling.

Dagaalada daba dheeraaday ayaa dadkii bahalo ka dhigay. Markeena horena dad naxariis badan ma nihin.

No amount of Somali community townhall meetings are gonna solve this problem. People fail to realize that hip-hop inspired gangsterism is not just a lifestyle but a full blown ideology, with its own code of ethics, dress code, and norms of behaviour. Once someone fully internalizes it turning them around becomes no different than rehabilitating a radicalist shabaabi or a right-wing racist tea partier; next to impossible. Our parents have experimented with and utterly failed my generation by refusing to move out of government housing, which are cesspools of crime and poverty that produce hopeless and destructive youth. So to any parent who may be reading this; there is no need to attend meetings to discuss this problem...JUST MOVE THE HELL OUT OF GOV HOUSING!!! Then hopefully the young ones will have a chance.

Ur right. Horta inu nini bilaash ku kaxaysto inantaada waaba qalad, so i definitely see where shes coming from especially considering wat happened to her first daughter. Its human nature not to value things that we get easily, markaa in ragga la xujayo oo xoogaha dhib loo marsiiyo ta ay doonayaan waa wax fiican oo marriagekaba save garayn kara in the long run. Hadii kale inantu waxay noqonaysa kliinigis jeebka uu ku sito oo kale, oo markuu dhowr jeer duufka iskaga siimiyo qashinka ayuu ku ridayaa lool.

That wouldnt work, because labaduba waa naago kuluul. Tani malaha gacan ayayba hooyada ula tagi lahayd marka ninka loo diido lol. I just realized that the underlying theme in both clips is the same; materialistic women and impoverished men with no chance.

Another one of Cabdi Haybe's great performances.

^ One of my all time favourite ruwaayads.

I dont see how she was overemphasizing that she looks more Arab than Somali. She only mentioned it because it was relevent to what she was talking about. But I do agree with you 100 % that Somalis on average are more attractive than Arabs.

Bluelicious you, my dear, are a wonderful person, masha'Allah.

Apophis;871706 wrote: You were and are still rooting for this filthy group. What makes you think they're able to defeat the KDF and Somali alliance? Just because the KDF hasn't been in war before makes you doubt their capability and training? In my view, shabab ba "Naarahaa laga waaraabin doonaa" because they have no heavy weapons, effective training, air cover and most importantly, the numbers and casualty evacuation/ treatment. Hit and run, they maybe good at but not open warfare. You're either a shameless liar or your mistaking me with someone else. No one despises shabaab more than I do. Predicting the probable outcome of a looming battle based on objective analysis has no correlation wat so ever with who I support in this war.

Apophis;871495 wrote: Even the Muslim ones? lol, I see your Somali isn't very strong. Naarahaa laga waaraabin doonaa waxaan uga jeeda barbaarta will teach em a lesson, not that i'm rooting for them or anything.

KDF in naaraha laga waraabin doonoo shaki kuma jiro. Barbaartu wax walba way yihiin se rag dagaalka ku liita ma 'aha.

I agree with Kool-Kat, Somali parents have used their children as sacrificial lambs offered on the altar of the mighty dollar. These kids stood no chance from the outset. I grew up in one of these notorious Toronto neighbourhoods, and inta ka badbaaday waa faro ku tiris.

Narniah, That was a wonderful read. There's just something about the bond we Somalis have; something deep and visceral about it.

I've heard about it before. Apparently it has a cult following among middle aged white women. Seeing that i don't fall within that demographic I will probably pass on reading it.

Blue have u read it?

^ Same here. Suratul-Yusuf is truely the best story ever told.

Narniah;869528 wrote: This of course goes for reverts too, not every revert is marriage material. And in here, Narniah, lies the problem. Somali girls throw themselves at these reverts despite many of them being unsuitable for marriage. It's as if his conversion to Islam absolves him from living up to any of the standards Somali girls would otherwise use to measure up Somali guys. For example, from a Somali guy she'll demand 10,000 dollars in meher, but the revert is soooo masha'Allahhh, so a copy of the Qur'an will suffice as dowry right? Disgusting, and wreaks of self-hatred.

MMA wallee waa macalin. Keep it up bro.

By Somali style I mean it's indigenous and not borrowed. Ofcourse others could wear it like us too like u've mentioned.