^ Nonsense. What about djibouti who didnt join Somalia after their independence in 77, and the people of NFD and Kilinka shanaad who openly proclaim they wouldnt join Somalia even if they got their freedom. Dadkan reer Soomaaliland uun ba la tusay, cajabay cajiib. How does wanting your own country mean u hate other somalis, that makes no sense.

Oo fufugu ilaa gaarisa ma so gaadheen? Waarya Haatu, hurdada ka kac intay goori goor tahay.

Haatu;909986 wrote: Wardee wa ku kaa. Durba aniga baad igu soo booday. War fikradeyda shaqsi ahaan iyo tan dadka aan ka soo jeedo kala saar. Haa, dadka gobolkeya iminka wey ku qanacsan yihiin Kiinya in kastoo eysan waxbo ka helin Nayroobi, haseyeeshee taas micnaheeda ma aho in ey indhoola yihiin. Dadka toogashadda iyo qaraxa Gsa ka wada dad cirka ka yimi ma ahaan. Waa lays wada yaqaanaa. Badanaa dadka waxey tuhunsan yihiin in farta Nayroobi eey eelaha ku jirto. Yes, you can call us sellouts and dad aan dhiig laheyn, but I would much rather this than live in constant fear a la Somali Galbeed style. I personally support Somaliweyn but the reality on the ground is different. If this region is to be freed, either a miracle happens and a Pan-Somalist party takes control of the Counties (Gsa, Wajeer and Mandheera Counties) or we are liberated by Somaliweyn. There's a greater chance of the latter happening. We have become tame and docile after 50 yrs of occupation and due to clever propaganda, reer Somalia have been painted with a dirty brush. But, should Somalia get its act together and real development starts to take place in J/land, ppl in NEP will see what they are missing out on and what their kin is enjoying. Maybe then the hot blooded warriors within us will reawaken. Che, ma ila aragtey. It's the first time on being on SOL that I've seen Somalis being blunt with each other. Even in SOL we've come a long way. Fair enough Haatu. But all im saying is, since this is the case with NFD ur opinions on Somaliland coming back to the union shouldn't be so strong. If u can see and understand the difficulties and complexities of the situation in the NFD, why cant u appreciate those in Somaliland which are preventing us from re-joining at the present time. Ur black and white take on this can make u appear to be a clan driven hypocrite (which I know u aren't).

Exchange program is a great idea Che, but I dont think we can do without the xaaji. He could be the coordinator or field guide or something....ninku tuulo kasta iyo tariikhdeeda ayuu garanyaa. Sometimes i think he just makes things up lool. I agree this has been a very candid dicussion.

Che -Guevara;909977 wrote: Oodweyne....It's worthy noting that very leadership spent the last 20 years indoctrinating the public on secession and warning on how awful any deal with Somalia will be not mention the institutionalization of grievances towards Somalis. lol@Wadani, perception is everything. I know people who see Hargeysa as foreign but feel at home from places in Somalia that they were evicted from during the civil war. Bizarre isn't it?

Haatu;909907 wrote: Wadani, I wouldn't mind joining Somalia today but the reality on the ground dictates otherwise. The Kenyans aren't willing to let go and the populace will only join once Somalia can offer the services they currently receive, no matter how small. As for Somaliland, economically today it is no better than Somalia. The S/land population won't suffer a drop in quality of life if they join Somalia unlike NEP. To put it simply, you guys are further up the road to Somaliweyn than us and will reach the destination sooner. That doesn't mean we're not coming, we're merely behind you. Capiche? Oo ileen inta yar ee ugaaliga ah ee la idin siiyo ayaad ku qanacdeen. Adeer, hadii aad adigu Somaliwayn hunguri ugaga hadhay, waxa jira dad caddalad darro ay tirsanayaan iyo xasuuq loo gaystay uga hadhay.

Rahima;909914 wrote: You are right about identities though, when i think of Hargeysa i don't think of it the same way as i do Kismaayo, Baidoa, Mogadishu or Bossaso. No ill feelings, just being honest. Obviously the SL/Somalia thing has affected even those of us from Somalia. So what do u think of Rahima? A foreign city inhabited by inhospitable Somalis hostile to other Somalis from beyond their borders? How many time do i have to tell ppl, Somalilanders don't hate other somalis. Just come to Hargaysa and u'll see how multi-clan the city is....and the southerners there fare much better than they do in so called 'somaliwayn' territory like puntland, where thousands of them were forcefully deported. Why would u let a political divorce change how u perceive ur fellow Somalis in Somaliland; to me it doesn't seem like a balanced view of things

Haatu;909628 wrote: Nin daad qaadey xumbo cuskay It's not too late to join the Somaliweyn ferry boys. That way you could save some face and say you conceded for Somaliweyn not for the South :D Look at this hypocrite. Arent u the same guy who said u wouldnt want ur fufu occupied province to join Somalia as it is now? Why would we as somalilanders do something even so called somaliwayn believers such as urself wouldn't even consider. Get real bro.

Rahima;909736 wrote: This is why i've always supported independence for Somaliland. What do u mean Rahima?

Mooge is evil!

So Mooge ur gonna compare the statement of the fufu Major, in which he simultaneously claims there were no deaths and that an investigation will be done, to guddi heer wasiiro ah whose job is to take amisom to account for their wrong doings? If Mr Fufu and his minions didnt shell civilians, what was the need for an investigation? Also, do u have Omar abdirashid on record calling for an inquiry? If so was it guddi heer wasiiro ah? Ur post is just clan fueled nonsense, ka leexo meehsa adeer.

^ Waryaa, reer abtigay maad amaan galisid? Inkatoo adeerkay ruma guryo u lahaa ay ku qabsadeen lol.

I welcome this news.

I agree with this Abdtifatah Tahir individual for the most part, but he may be wrong about the extent of sympathy for unionist views in Somalialnd.

Good reminder. Thanks bro.

^So a victim of rape doesn't have legitimate cause to seek revenge? And what is revenge anyway except justice, and what is justice except revenge? The old adage of an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth captures just how inextricably linked the two concepts r.

Thanks for the info, and yes ofcourse beeldaaje, how could have I forgotten. Also, some clans use boqor. Man we have a lot of titles don't we?

Xaaji ur right, Soomaalinimo need not be intertwined with politics. I feel the same brotherhood with Somalis from all the 5 somali inhabited regions of the horn, despite the differnces in politcs and borders. Thats y i never understood y a lot of somalis like to call Somalilanders 'soomaalidiid's', as if our politcal divorce with Somalia removes our ethnicity and soomaali heritage.

Can't say im surprised. I know there are penty of nonbelievers within the somali community who choose to continue living as 'Muslims' just to avoid the inevitable consequences of coming out with their gaalnimo. Too bad for them though, cuz their living a lie in this world, and will have no share in the afterlife.

I undersand that to mean they r non-believers in the Quran, hadith etc, right?

Abdwaan, which beel uses this term fiqi? I'm assuming it's the main tribe of Puntland, since u joked that LST was the one escorting the Fiqi.

Welcome back Oodweyne!!!

Irreligious as in believers who do not practise, or as in non-believers?

Alpha Blondy;909239 wrote: a young somali couple. a busty chick and her boyfriend were making out on the beach. and they say lido beach is a place of moral decadence. Djiboutians have no dhaqan. They're a bunch of mentally enslaved French wannabes.

U lack the most important tie.