Why is it pathetic? You may be projecting your own issues with clan on to us, but some of us are healthy enough to discuss clans with out it devolving in to primitve chest beating and skull cracking.

^ hahaha, couldn't help but laughing reading that.

Xaaji Xunjuf;910728 wrote: Waliba forumkan waxan maqlay in la diiday in lugu yidhaho dadka Jigjiga ku nool eeh dawlada Ethiopia tageersan in loogu yeedho Somalida Ethiopia. hada iyagi ba sheegtay hadana waxa la leeyahay yaan loogu yeedhin. So cajiib maha.Kuwi kale waxay sheegteen waxa la leeyahay maya idinka Somalidiid baad tihin allow amuuraha sahal. War wadaniyow war mala inagu Somali ma nihin oo waxanu nahay dad afSomaliga iyo dhaqanka Somalida bartay, wa kuwan Somalidu leh Somali ma tihidin ma iska siina magaca Somali ha qataan be , reer shankaroon aynu isku naqono wa halki suldan faisal eh:D lool, wallee talo wanaagsan baad soo jeedisay. Iyaagase saaxiga keeni doona markay waayan xikmadda inaga soo burqan jirtay. Haddii aynu soomaalinimada u dayno soo abaar suugaaneed ku dhici mayso dadkan?

I think it can be more accurately be described as 'regional looks'. My mother for example has the ability to in rare cases tell which region someone is from, and by extension the likely clan they r from, just by looking at them. I think I may be slowly catching on to these subtle differences too.

loooooooooool Alpha u need ur own reality TV show bro.

Yes you could. Especially in the north Albertan city of Fort McMurray.

Xaaji Xunjuf;910715 wrote: How does one become a Somalidiid looool Somaliga miyanay dhalasho ahayn mise wala didi kara:D Xaajiyow waa tan ilaa hadda la yaabanahay. Ka Djibouti jooga waa soomaali, ka gaarisa jooga ee ku faraxsan Kenya waa Soomaali, ka meles dimashadiisii la baroortay ee jigjiga joogaa waa soomaali, laakiin ka Hargaysa jooga waa 'soomaalidiid'.

You could find jobs elsewhere, but it would be much more of an uphill battle. Somalis without qualifications work as security guards, factory workers/menial labour, taxi drivers, truck drivers and bus drivers.

xabad;910689 wrote: I am planning to come to Canada. I have a STEM degree. How easy is it to find a job Wadani ? Go to the oil-rich Canadian province called Alberta, and u'll find a high paying job insha'Allah. Otherwise it may be quite a challenge landing something worthwhile.

Alpha Blondy;910678 wrote: are you canadian or a somali? are you able to culturally navigate your way through the identity crises that faces our children? I'm as Somali as one can get for someone who was almost born in Canada. I speak, read and write effortlessly in my mother tongue and have a good grasp of Somali history and cultural norms. I identify as a Somali-Canadian, and not as a Canadian-Somali. But I do love Canada, and am grateful for the life it has given me and my family and the countless other Somalis fleeing the civil war.

Ur reading of the political charade being played by Kulmiye and Co. in broad daylight is spot on. Bilaash guru laguuguma bixin.

Alpha Blondy;910652 wrote: ^ OLDBOY is one of the classics. awesome movie. any Hollywood remark will never come close to the original. remember how they ruined 'infernal affairs' with its cosmetic remark 'departed'...... the deliberate showings of human genitalia in Hollywood movies is a far cry from the 'authencity' it seeks to achieve. this most recent phenomena is the work of the liberal media in their attempts to over-sexualise audiences. more interestingly, perhaps, laakin, is this feud between spike lee and jamie foxx over the movie's 'portrayal' of slavery. foxx has attacked lee in several interviews - saying that lee's comments were 'outdated' and uncalled for. but are they are outdated? i tend to think otherwise. the Hollywood machinery continues to denigrate black people in the most negative ways imaginable. the portrayals of blacks is often reworkings of the same, narrow and indeed one-dimensional stereotypes. lee wasalso to 'critical' in his views. his views which have become the 'bread and butter' of the all too familiar ''aniga og-conscious-back-to-basics-Afrocentric-lazy-thinking'' that seems to reek from those self-righteous black folks. certainly there has to be a middle ground but the last thing we needed was a public feud between two of our best Hollywood A-list celebs. the whites are laughing at us. +1. But Alpha based on what do you use the word 'we' when speaking of black people in America. I for the most part identify as black, but then I can't help but to question for a number of reasons the rationale behind including Somalis in to this broad, and arguabley meaningless, categorization. It's not the commonalities between Somalis and other blacks that subsumes Somalis under the term, as there are practically none, but our collective otherness to the white superstructure, and our subsequent shared experiences as a result of this othering. But if it's only our plight in the western world that binds us together, and not a common history, culture and for the most part religion, what then is the justification for calling Somalis black, a term mind u that was never used by our forefathers to self-identify?

Interesting, didn't know that.

Blackflash;910648 wrote: They don't congregate in to neighbourhoods like they do in the U.S and we get very few of the illegals here in Canada. It's similar to the differences between Indians/Pakistanis in the U.S and Canada. What are the differences between the indo-paks in Canada vs the U.S.?

Alpha Blondy;910640 wrote: based on this admission alone, we can assume with some certainty Somali-Canadians, are still largely dependent on the whites for handouts in survival. what's more, it can also be deduced with some level of accuracy, that these high levels of dependency go beyond the social sphere but also provide an explanation as to the high crime rates among Canada's impoverished Somali community. still a community in a state of flux: unsettled, neglected and fragmented in both attitude and orientation, Somali-Canadians are a long way away from achieving the ''Canadian dream'' Alpha, first of all I was joking and second of all at the time I was a broke student. Alhamdulillah i've graduated now and have a solid career. And besides there was never a 'Canadian dream' in the same way people speak of the 'American dream'. America has always been, before the economic downturn that is, the greater land of opportunity compared to it's neighbour up north. But overall Canada does afford one myriad paths to success if they have the know-how and drive to to take advantage of them.

I was interveiwed by the Prof who did this study, but I was dissappointed to see that she didn't quote me in her work despite the gems I dropped on her. Had I known my time and effort would have been in vain I would've at least had her pay for a cab ride home haha.

It's not that something is wrong with Somali poeple, it's that something is wrong with Somali parenting in the western world. They raise children here as though they were still living in Somalia, and this has been a critical critical mistake and it's effects are now there for all to see. These parents were naive enough to believe u could have 7 kids, raise them in a run down crime infested and poverty stricken neighbourhood and that all would be fine and dandy.

Blackflash;910606 wrote: Lol. If you're going place any value on IQ tests then you'll be happy to know that Somalis and Ethiopians rank among the worst in the world. This IQ test assumes some exposure to formal education and familiaitry with western modes of thinking and conceptualization of problems, so one has to take the results with a grain of salt. Somalis are definitely an intelligent group of people, at least when viewed as inviduals and not as the retarded collective we form lol.

Interesting developments.

Haatu, our freind Stoic is from the same hot blooded subclan as faysal cali waraabe, so it's not in his genes to be a passivist. But i'm not a part time somaliwayn. I believe in unity as long as it will be done right, with all the neccessary checks and balances and satisfies all parties. Until then Somaliland should stay it's current course.

Let's say for arguements sake that is him, why would it matter? How does eating khat make someone unsuitable to be in a position of power?

Aaliyyah;910085 wrote: Aflagaadaduna ma fiicna taas ogow. Soomaali waxay ku maahmaahda af caytamay ninkiisa ku yaala. Marnaba dhaqankayga maaha in aan hablaha aflagaadeeyo. Adiga iyo doqonnimona kala dheer ee kaliya waxaan u dan lahaa xikmadda maahmaahda ku jirta, oo ah qof hadhow adiga kugu soo jeedsanay ha u hiilinin, sidii ku dhacday nabi Muuse calayhi salaam.

I meant Somaliland as in dhulka uu ingriisku gumaysan jiray. Maad diidan tahay inaad dhulka somaliland laysku odhan jiray aad dagantihiin? Anyways, waaban idiin hiilinayay ee maxaad igu haysataa. Soomaali waxay ku maahmaahdaa doqon ha u gargaarin hana gargaarsan.

Aaliyyah;910069 wrote: Somaliland can do whatever they want as long as they don't force their secession ideology on others. But u classed the group (beesha) Xaaji and I hail from as deviants because the majority of them don't believe in unity, so what do u mean they can do watever they want? Hadaladaadu way is burinayaan. But I do and have always agreed that no group should be forced to join somaliland's secessionist ambitions, just like no group should try to prevent or undermine their secession. Live and let live.

Adiga iyo dadkaasiba wax laga acuudubilaysto baad tihiin. Waa cusub ayaa u bariday Somalia oo labaatan sano ka badan la soo kacaakufaysay colaad sokeeye iyo qaajo. Fursaddan qaaliga ah ee ay maanta Somalia haysato looma daba fadhiisanayo dad carqalad ku ah oo luf dhuun gashay ku noqday horumarka umaddan. Waddaniyadda iyo Rajada Soomaalida inteeda kale gashay ayaa ka awood badan kana guulaysan doonta ficilidan qaran dumiska ah ee maangaabnimada ku salaysan ee aad waddaan. Waliigiinba mudaahraada, aragnaa cidda wax ku wayda.