Safferz;982262 wrote: ^^ you don't inherit religion from anyone and certainly not your father, in fact that's one aspect of traditional Arab religion that Islam clearly forbids. Don't try and invent religious justification for ethnocentrism and bigotry, Prophet Muhammad himself was married to women of different ethnic backgrounds (ie. a Jewish woman, an Egyptian Copt) and even encouraged interracial marriages (ie. he asked his cousin Zaynab to marry Zaid ibn Haritha). Both Zaid and Zaynab were arabs.

Classified;982087 wrote: I couldn't careless about what she did. As long as her offspring aren't classified as Somali, we're good . I only asked to confirm whether u mentioning she is from Hargaysa was an innocent obersvation or not...and clearly it wasn't since u don't condone what she did. Waxaad tahay maangaab.

SomaliPhilosopher;981970 wrote: And do you realize the Somalilanders inability to productively cooperate with the dar0d given tribal animosity has delayed achieving asiatic status for decades until it was useless and had no benefits, not to metion economically unsound. Plus, when post WW2 Somali nationalism emerged which was more ambitious and sought complete liberation rather than 'elevated status' under a colonial administration, it was unsupported by a faction of the somalilanders (the faction you would probably belong to), remnants of the "asiatic" status campaigners. Instead they continued in their miniscule pursuits under their tribal banner Nonsense. The H@rti Somalilanders were united with the durriyad in the pursuit of 'Asiatic Status'. D-block people have an obsession with revisionist history ma is tidhi.

Tallaabo;981974 wrote: I don't understand the Somali mentality, it makes me sick. In this 21st century Somalis still have a huge problem marrying from certain minority clans and the Somali Bantus but are ok with Chinese and Jamaicans?:confused: +1000. Discriminate against their own and run to shisheeye....if thats not classic self-hatred I dont know what is.

Classified;981915 wrote: Just mentioning where she's originally from. Do u support what she did?

Classified;981912 wrote: She's from Hargeisa originally. And your point is?

Alpha Blondy;981867 wrote: Wadani - inantan feminist-ka ah ee ku magac dheere Saffz aana hadaa kadib qabaa ee sida uula soco adiguna. Waliba la guurso baan ku odhan lahaa ha edebsatee.

Mad_Mullah;981863 wrote: First of all nobody is telling you to "sell" your women. Secondly, yes they do, especially Syrians to rich Arab gulf people that have sex with them, take their virginity and then send them back to the refugee camps (in Jordan and Turkey). There are dozens of article/documentaries on this. Again we're not talking about mass marriages between two countries but one Somali from Xamar marrying a Turk. Half of the posters aren't even from Xamar, not only that but they call them HAG and savages etc. so what do we care if they marry a Turk? But they're selling them to other Arabs. Do u think anyone here would have a problem if it was a Somali from Djibouti marrying that girl in Xamar? We care if they marry a turk cuz they're Somali, and them being HAG doesn't change that.

Mad_Mullah;981857 wrote: “Whosoever has in his heart, even a atom of pride he will not enter paradise.” That ain't me, that's a Hadith. Because that pride is based on arrogance, you people would let your daughters get beaten every night by a high on qat Farax rather than a well practicing Muslim from another country that lives in your country. Look at the Ansar of Madinah that divorced their own wives so that the Muhajireen could marry them. These were the best of people but you would say they have no pride. Secondly, I would believe you if you came from some rich Dubai Sheikh Family, but where is this pride you speak of? Thousands of ads all over the world, from America to Japan telling their citizens to donate money to starving Somalis. Where is the pride? Demonstrating in front of the UN/UK embassies to get recognition for a clan enclave. Where is the pride? Bragging about Turkish built hospitals and roads. Where is the pride? Looking down on others while here, the Somalis have the lowest employment rate, yes even lower than Jamaicans etc. Where is the pride? Talking about being warriors while half of you gun down civilians in malls and the other half gets it's salary by neo-coloniliasts like America and Europe. Where is the pride? Instead of helping the OG reclaim their land you arrest them and hand them to the arch enemy of Somalia. Where is the pride? Hundreds die trying to reach Italy or even worse, Yemen. Where is the pride? You have no pride, living in western countries of benefits and if it wasn't for their mercy we'd all be living somewhere in the Libyan desert. Please, don't talk about pride anymore. Aar bal tan eega. You're defeated psychologically and it's so sad to see. I am proud to be a Somali despite all of those things you have mentioned. San-ku-neef-leh iga sarayn karaaba majiro waayo Illaahay baa iga dhigay Muslim markaana Soomaali markaana G@rxajis...ceesh calaa nasab wallaahi.

Saalax;981850 wrote: Mad Mullah I don't condone that either. In Somaliland if your father is not a Somalilander you will be looked down on as a non native like that guy Nimcaan guy, he talked about how he faced racism and wants to leave Somaliland (his father is white). It was always like that, were's in the south they are more open to those things whether the Italians or present day Bantus/Turks. Even thousands of Italians were born in south Somalia. I think you meant if your father is not ethnic Somali. But other than that I agree. The northern Somali culture is much closer to it's nomadic roots and thus more xenophobic.

Haatu;981845 wrote: Niyow do you hate your colour or something? It's obvious the man is colour struck.

Mad_Mullah;981844 wrote: Why though? I'm trying to get inside your head and see the 'shame' - what's wrong with it? Was she from a royal family living in a palace? No, but shanty town in the middle of nowhere. Yes, Burco is a shanty town. It's called pride...something u don't have. Sayid Maxamad Cabdalle Xasan would be dissappointed in you.

Che -Guevara;981839 wrote: Wadani. The war killed the very soul of the Somali people. That it did Che, that it did.

Mad_Mullah;981837 wrote: Saalax what do you have to say about the Syrian dude married to a Ido-- Lander in Burco? Waliba she was from my subclan. I bowed my head in shame when I saw the video lol.

Mad_Mullah;981831 wrote: Waawaynka should be talking about fixing their country rather than focusing on trivial stuff. Agree with everything u said preceding the word 'rather' lool.

Haatu;981832 wrote: They're Somali but they speak Af Oromo, so there's a language divide. No one looks down upon them it's just some of my relatives are a bit "behind the times" shall we say when it comes to inter-clan marriages. About the Garre, historically they're fierce warriors and very proud. Nowadays, they have Mandheera county on lock and occasionally partake in clan wars. That's about all I know about them What do they consider themselves though? Do u know? If there was a fight betwee an Oromo guy and a Somali guy, who would the Garre guy side with?

Mad_Mullah;981830 wrote: Show us pics of this Garre, if they have the narrow nose, big foreheads then yes they are Somali. They most definitely do. I've seen them on youtube. They look 100% Somali, but they speak a different langauge which is closer to Oromo from what I know. I believe Haatu can shed more light on them, since many of them live in NFD.

Haatu;981824 wrote: You know it's really bad but do you know the amount of social stigma they would face? I know a person that married a kenyan bantu or something and their children were called caruurtii adoomada and the family as a whole ostracized. Would you allow that to happen to your daughter? For goodnesss sake a relative was ostracized coz she married a Garre , forget bantu. I'm fascinated by these Garre people. Are they Somalis or Oromos or a hybrid of sorts? Do they claim us, or do they ascribe to their own distinct identity? So are you saying other Somalis look down on them? Why? Plz tell me as much as you can about them. Thanks in advance.

Mad_Mullah;981821 wrote: Why are Somalilanders still posting here? THey want to ban the Somali passport and distance themselves while at the same time getting pissed when Southerners marry Turks or Chinese. Adeer meesha waawaynka ayaa ku qowdhamaya ee is dhuub, yaanad ku waalane.

Che -Guevara;981815 wrote: I saw a lot of insecurities and self doubts. Boys, you want your women not to marry foreigners,FIKIS your dam kaantari ....wait Mooge thinks Xasan Shiikh is the devil. You can't agree on anything else, can you? And that right there is the crux of the issue. All of our problems as a people, whether political, economic or social are due to the collapse of the central government and the inability to reinstate anything even resembling it for over two decades. Sometimes I feel like I can't even blame Somalis who become self-haters....then I snap out of it and pity the damn fools.

Safferz;981806 wrote: That's because clan is at the core of Somaliland nationality whether it's openly stated or not, and citizenship through paternal inheritance is the only way of ensuring the clan makeup of the country stays the same. I can't think of another constitution in the world (in the 21st century) that excludes women from full rights of citizenship in this way, and it's something Somaliland will have to rethink if it wants to continue fashioning itself as a democratic, politically stable "oasis" in the Horn. Incidentally, Wadani's agreement with Somaliland's citizenship law does confirm Nin Yaaban's theory that racists and tribalists are often the same people The exclusionary logic is the same . Don't mix up marriage with politics. I am 100% in favour of inter-clan marriage. I'm a pan-somali at heart whose politics isn't always as idealistic, as the realities on the ground won't allow it. I, and many of us here, are prisoners of circumstance.

Apophis;981804 wrote: Self hating westernised xalimos continue to sink lower and lower. No surprises here. Apo, I told you we have a lot in common yet you lambasted me a little ago for no good reason. I think an apology is in order to redeem our cyber friendship.

Alpha Blondy;981799 wrote: :D what is this ''liberal''? miyaanad ka weynaan siyaasad gaalada fikirkooda ku dhisan, abti? May wali..waanse rajaynayaa. Maybe u'll be the catalyst that will lead to a new and indigenous paradigm of political analysis. Get to work dee...hadii kale cultural critic title-kan aad is daba wadid naga daa.

Alpha Blondy;981791 wrote: ^^ arrimahayga ka dhex bax, wa ku sidee? you'll never see me gloating about ajaanabi and aji in public. have you heard the joke about the xalimo and the chinese man, horta? Do share.

Alpha Blondy;981788 wrote: the the private affairs of a xalimo and the personal choices they make shouldn't concern y'all. what is offensive however is how publicly this is all being played out. it's disgusting. Ur a liberal through and through eh? Please, ciyaalka Hargaysa jooga ee impressionable-ka ah hanaga wasakhaynin.