Malaha ninku waa xabashi Somali iska dhigaya. Ciidanka Somalia waa in la dhisaa. Xitaa hadii Somaliland iyo Somalia ay isku darsan waayaan waa inay kala saxeedaan matual defense pact oo hiil iyo hooba isla garab taagnaadaan markay noqoto dagaal. Geeska Africa waa in Soomaalidu hoggaanka u qabataa, bilaa ciidanna taasi surtoobi mayso.

http://wardheernews.com/public_html/Articles%202013/Feb/03_demilitarization_Atto.html Excerpt from the article: Since in Somalia Clanism has proven to be manifestly stronger than Nationalism, the establishment of a National Army is therefore incompatible with the Somali clanish reality. I see no way around this, either the loyalty to the clan or the armed forces, one of these two has to go, and since objects are easier to discard than ideas, the military instrument is a perfect candidate to let go away and the fact that at the moment we are fortunately at a stage where no strong national army exists will make the job much easier. All we have to do now is to simply not rebuild that army and let it fade away. What does everyone think?

Viva Mudane Madaxwayne Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud.

Salahudin raggeedi baad tahay bro, cidna ha u joojin. Hadda waa iska adduunyo gaddoon oo wax walbaaba maqluubka ayay ka roganyihiin. Xumaan iyo samaan dadkii kala saari waa.

Dee haayee noloshi baa adkaatay, dadkiina guur la'aan joogi kari mayaan ileen basbaas baa wada marsane haha.

Oba ur northern somali is on point bro. I'd never guess u were an unuka.

Salahudin, i'm with u on preserving traditional gender roles, but since life in the West is so hard and usually requires a two income household the husband should be willing to help the wife out with the house chores if she is working full time just like him.

^He'd do a hell of a job in the Somali remake, don't u think?

lol there u go again. As if i didn't explain to u for the millionth time im not against ur cause. Strange, very strange.

Taleexi;914561 wrote: Fyi, Khatumo is not seeking what is not hers. Then me and u r on the same page, even though u attack me every chance u get for some reason lol.

Whats ur point?

Ur right, that's much more likely than him being ignorant of it.

Reer abtigay are the biggest die-hard secessionists that for sure. Maybe since ur Father in-law is reer galbeed he just had no idea how far branchs of the duriyadda extend to the East.

Xaajiyo odaygu been ma sheegin. Allaa mahadle.:cool:

Stoic, i'm glad u took my advice and decided to learn about the clan composition of the region. Reekan dhulkoodu aad buu u balaadhan yahay, from Midhisho all the way to the outskirts of Wardheer. Im all for the the Khaatumo clan governing their own areas without interference from Somaliland, but when they claim all of sool and sanaag how r they different than the policy of Somaliland which they decry day and night?

Alpha Blondy;914536 wrote: why are you telling me? is this suppose to anger me or did you expect me to insult you for ruining our women. Better a fellow moryoolay than a sangadhuudi or saancadaale.

^ Basically.

Taleexi, I was talking about waagii dowladdii kacaanka la riday. Maybe u didn't read my post.

There were a few battles, but they were between snm and pro-kacaan clans. Snm never engaged in killing of civilians on account of their clan. All ilma-jabarti were forgiven, this is documented history. We forgave, even though we suffered worse than the usc, with hargaysa and burco being bombed to the ground. I think we deserve some credit for this gobanimo.

Waranle_Warrior;914489 wrote: You make sense in this response bro and its a nice come back. However, if you are fair you can not compare the era of the 90's to what happened in 2006-2010. Also the topic was about clan cleansing and civil war of 91 of which neither of it could be termed to the later. People were being rounded in number and being killed for being from a certain clan in the 90's, the era of la isku dhihi jiray 'yaa tahay' or lahjadiisa ii fiiri and you are dead. On the other hand in 2006-2010, of course no one is denying that atrocities had occurred and actually the period was not only 2006-2008 (Yey's time) but continued 2010/2011 during Shariif's reign people were dying in Mogadishu daily in their dozens until Alshabaab were removed from the city and the heavy clashes stopped. It was the TFG(with its all different clan leaders even with a change of the head ) vs Alshabaab, now only picking, selecting and pointing finger Yey and somehow turn into a civil war of Somali clans was the reason I called qabyaladist. I don't think Shariif was hunting a particular clan when he was head and the Ugandans were heavily shelling the city randomly and were fiercely engaging battles with Alshabaab on the streets of Mogadishu. Similarly, Yey was representing the TFG which constituted many Somali clan, yes it was corrupt, incompetent and reckless may be but I don't understand how one can describe it as clanish - and if so, how could it be clanish when Yusuf is head and not when Shariif is head. Sxb, xaqiiqda lagama fogaado, xaqiiqduna waxay tahay dadbaa reerka ay yihiin iyo isirkooda iyagoo maato ah lagu dilaayay 91 ilaa hadana guryahooda dadkale ay daganyihiin. Waxkale oo isdagaalayay iyaga dadkaan ay kudhaxdhinteen majirin ee waa dad isirka ay galabsaday. Waa ruuntaa walaal. Si xun ayaa la idiin galay 91-kii. Taa cid diidi kartaa ma jirto. And I see what u mean about the recent war in xamar not being comprable to the one in the early 90's. But how come ilma-jabarti don't ever cut some slack for Somaliland since the SNM didn't do reprisal killings when it ousted the siyaad barre regime. All the pro-kacaan clans were forgiven, yet ilma-jabarti never acknowledge this.

Yes, he would. And don't call my adeer that Mooge guy, show some respect will ya.

What about the perpetrators of the 2006-2009 massacre in xamar? Many of them still hold positions too. Whats with u peope and ur selective and self-serving readings on Somali crimes and justice?

Wallahi I dont hate any clan. Look at my name bro. Im just saying, all sides need to admit their crimes. Oba himself told you he lost many relatives in the recent war in xamar, yet u made no mention of this and started talking about the 91 massacre. Do u only care about atrocities committed againt ur clan? Anigu I want caddaalad for all the clans ma garatay? This includes yours, and insha'Allah all stolen properties will be returned in due time.

Xaaji Xunjuf;914464 wrote: Their hatred was planted by the Belgium colonialists , Somali tribes are not like that Somalis need to impose different methods of understanding. By the way the Tutsis are building a Kingdom in Rwanda lol almost ruling more than a decade. So wat do u suggest? R u saying we don't need national reconciliation on a grand scale?