Reeyo;929352 wrote: ^ Somalia civil war wasn't worth it. And I strongly believe this civil war in Syria is not worth it. Too much pain and self-destruction. I agree, Somali civil war was definitely not worth it.

Mooge;929350 wrote: can you imagine if siyad barre wasn't ousted and everyone took your attitude? some things are worth the pain for long term happiness ninyoow. syria will come back but this Alawi monster has to be kicked out. Maybe worth it in the case of Syria, but definitely not in Libya. Gaddafi was nuthing like this Assad *******.

Alpha Blondy;929345 wrote: i think you have an illustrious history...... you can also be thanked for colonising and partially taming Arabs....and also as the achelis heels that has kept them at bay, but besides that..... your tribe has become obsolete in recent years, inaar. i'm particularly impressed by the great strides made by your cousins H.Y. they ought to rethink their Confederacy with a weak partner, i reckon. Al's SL Social Strata Pecking Order: 1. G.B's from Gabiley. they're like jews, inaar and work closely together. impressive stuff for people who just recently evolved. they use to plow with their teeth until recently. there was no tractors in Gabiley in 1975... , today, laakin, a real force to reckon with. 2. H.Y - demographically sparse and politically influential. financially, they're strong too. but much like the nouveau riche or the ''new money'' , they have bad customs, lack culture and have a magaalo-joog xumo about them. large numbers in the diaspora has proved useful. 3. Xamari Diaspora in SL . very entrepreneurial and closely knit. there will be a genocide against them in 10 years, if they don't stop dominating the market. mogadishu beckons so their future is a little shaky. huge vacuum to be filled...upon their return home. 4. Moe Jesus - they've always ranked highly in the pecking order but in recently years, and perhaps worrying, there appears to be a resurgence of sorts about them. politically astute but geography is their killer. 5. Reer Samatar - the term ku qabso ku qadi meysid applies perfectly to these vicious thug-warriors. always ready to deal and to make a quick buck. in the last than 10 years, they've managed to lay claim, by force, to most of the prime real-estate in the country. but don't be fooled by the tough-manism and huge egos, they're reforming from within and secretly making great strides that'll bring them to the fore. 6. Little Saanbuur of H.J - growing exponentially but genetics hasn't been kind and has forever rendered them as laan-gaab ehlu naar. making full use of Big Sil's political patronage. 7. Nuux Ismail - a nation in decline. glorious past but years of churning out rotten offsprings has proved deadly to sustainability. still a major player but less time on being pretentious and more time working hard.... could catapult them to being pioneers and torchbearers again. . 8. Sand-dwellers - self-induced pity and nostalgia for yesteryears has impeded growth to only 0.2% p.a on all fronts. romantic past but very little substance in the last 20 years. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.. looool, very funny stuff. But I can tell ur a true H.A with the way u listed H.A sub.sub,sub,sub clans such as reer samatar alongside major clans such as H.Y. Ur either a clan novice or have delusions of H.A grandeur.

Coofle;929326 wrote: Yaa Wadani...I am brown...Light brown..kkkk no one is white, Pigeons are white....Yellow, Brown, etc I expected more from u coofle. I can respect a Somali who says he/she's not black because he refuses to have his identity subsumed under an arbitrary racial category devised by European anthropologists; one unknown to his/her forefathers. Our nomadic forefathers were Muslim, then Somali, then their clan, then their sub clan...and so on. This is how identity was conceptualized within the Somali context....and it cannot be considered self-hate to continue with this method of self-indentifying if one chooses to do so. But if one claims they aren't black to escape from his 'africaness' due to the internalization of the ineherent inferiority of the African vis a vis Europeans/Middle Easterners etc....then yes that's classic self-hatred. Which do u fall under Coofle? Is caddee baan ku idhi.

Yes, quite sad. I wonder if rebels/opposition in both Syria and Libya both think it was worth it? They've destroyed the very same countries they wished to liberate. This Somalia all over again.

^ ur some sort of professional? :eek:

Alpha Blondy;929322 wrote: Nuux Ismaaciil are on the decline, inaar. for decades, N.I's have have propagated myths, which have enveloped everyone in smokescreens...particularly through their artificial displays of being ''modern'' and possesing ''ilbaaxnimo''. this is perhaps true for the old generation were pioneers....their offspring, however, are REAL generates walahi. where intergenerational social mobility is the norm for most, these days,.......intergenerationally, N.I's are gradually sinking and wasting away in both power and indeed financial influence, however, their contrived efforts to still and somewhat maintain a dominant position, in today's social strata, is at best laughable and at worst pitful...... LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.. :p Interesting....but Alpha where would u say sand dwellers occupy within the social strata of Somalialnd? Be objective.

Oo ma reer gadiid ayaa Maansoor leh. Interesting. These damn Nuux Ismaaciils need to be purged from the elite capitialist class of Somaliland.

Ur welcome.

Coofle;929279 wrote: Heard about him in First year of univeristy...Being the only Student of African decent (Black is a wrong term) in the classroom I felt some what embarrassed when everyone else knew about him and I was like,,,,,eeeeehhh, Say what, WHo? Why do u consider black a wrong term?

Oba glad to see ur still here. Meesha waad shiddaa bro, ee hanaga tagin.

loool, Naxar is getting defensive. Don't worry bro, you guys also have nice horses, and abundant camels.

http://kirbyk.net/hod/image.of.africa.html

Blackflash;929054 wrote: Not necessarily. The people who would've been most affected by the levy in Cyprus are the Russian mafia and corrupt Russian bureaucratic/oligarchs. Getting out of community housing and staying out of the welfare system early on were the best decisions my parents made for our family. It certainly isn't easy with a large family, but the freedom that comes with self sufficiency is worth it. It's sad watching Somalis juggle fake addresses for years because they've become accustomed to having money appear out of nowhere every month. But that doesn't change the fact that many hard working cypriots will be effected, while the rich bank investors and bondholders will go unscathed. Also, this levy won't have much effect on the Russian oligarchs, but it can do serious damage to the life savings of someone who actually needs this money to live, and not buy multi million dollar jets. Kudos to ur parents. If all Somali parents did that, this whole Somali gang, drug and murder problem would be nonexistent.

Wow, nice pics Safferz. I gotta visit soon and take my own insha'Allah.

I don't think much of Faisal Ali, because he doesn't always think before he speaks. And this Jamal guy is way over rated, don't u think? Besides that I agree with ur analysis.

Ur right, we have an illustrious history. No one can deny that. What I mean is, when ever its having meetings with other clans or groups or pro-somaliwayn conferences or politicians who defect to the south it's almost always sand dwellers. Ur right, it's not that they are shisheeye kalkaal, but it's because they r ambitious. Horta where exactly is ceelka bulaale?

Xaaji Xunjuf;929086 wrote: Wadani we cant know for sure how Koonfurians deal with this issue but in Somaliland you are a Somalilander if you are descendant of a person from Somaliland paternally. Hadi kale ilma Tyrese ba ina sheegaan doona. looooool @ ilma Tyrese.

Only dunbuluq elders miyaa? Horta sand-dwellers maxay mar walba uga duwanyihiin duriyadda kale. Sometimes waa shisheeye kalkaal nimanku.

Obviously I know that Xaaji, but Odey said only full-blooded somalis can get citizenship at the moment, hence my question.

Xaaji, is this true?

Odey;929069 wrote: The way they put this is incorrect. the council of Ministers simply "discussed" the issue and shelved it till the Citizenship law is passed by parliament. They cannot give Citizenship to anyone other than a full blooded Somali at the moment!. Ramaasnews is fast becoming a farce Even if the father is Somali???

Nice pics Alpha, keep em coming.

Apophis;928717 wrote: One thing is for certain; Africans (especially Somalis) know nothing about fighting. They need to learn a thing or two from the Red Army. Anyone who retreats should be shot. MG42s should be placed behind the advancing line to discourage any retreat. Then maybe this nonsense will be over quickly. Easy for one to say while ensconced in all the comforts the West has to offer.

Apophis;928978 wrote: I'm in favour of those who “milk" the system. The rich do it daily and the poor should follow suit. In some ways ur right bro. Just look at wats happning in Cyprus. If ur honest and follow the rules, ur the first to get bitten.