But since no one gives any information about themselves when appying for membership status how do SOL mods/admins conduct a fair selection process? It's probably something arbitrary like the sound of someones email address.

Hayayyy!!! Safferz wallee waa balaayo. loool

Classified;935247 wrote: The only Somali tribe that imitates the Jews. It's truly admiring and very much deserves applaud that, you guys are still keeping your heroes alive and preserving the history of your SNM heroes so generations after will know who they were and what they fought against and how they lived and died. The only problem, they fought and killed fellow Somalis. No other Somali tribe have put in any time or effort in preserving their sons and struggles (If any). How does it feel to be from the defeated lot? Hahahaaa

Safferz;935260 wrote: So we're victim-blaming now? This is required at times when warranted. If degenerate lifestyles arent stigmatized within our communities and those who adopt them aren't held responsible for the outcome of their actions (yes even death) the problem will only get worse. Somalis need to take personal responsibility for what's happening to their communities in spite of all the systemic injustices that make conditions ripe for our youth to go wayward. The dominant white superstructure around us will not change, nor do they care about us. We have to stop believeing in their crocdile tears and taking their petty scraps and start empowering ourselves. Do u think the Jewish diaspora, which was dispersed in 70 AD, was handed all of their influence, power and wealth by the Muslim empires of the past, and later the Europeans Americans? These people banded together and did what they had to do to take what was theirs and then some. So lets stop with all the claptrap about rascism and disenfranchisement....These injustices are a reality yes, so we either get like the Jews and become self-reliant or like the African Americans and sulk all day about sh** not being fair. Let's not forget we are active agents that can create our own socio-economic realities (ofcourse within the limits of Allah's qadar).

Alpha Blondy;935251 wrote: ta kale.....''kids'', ''children'' these days are feral wildlings obsessed and deeply immersed in the greed of a consumerist immoral culture. they lack the discipline of previous generations. gone are the days of feeling a sense of community spirit. what's more, those bogus community organisations have reached the absolute limits of their usefulness. they're still peddling immigration and asylum services. for goodness sakes, its 2013! the somali community is now settled and services MUST be tailored to reflect the needs of the community. somali households have become dysfunctional and unruly. parents lacks the necessary skills to raise children. there are systemic failure across the board in these inner city wastelands. the list can go on, inaar........... balse, the important focus should now be given to the strict disciplining of children from a young age. better engagement and mobilisation of community organisations. better community leadership and role-model programmes. home-economics and budgetary seminars for parents. more quranic centres. more sports and cultural activities for the youth. a fathers-led vigilante-styled group who disrupt the gangs loitering the streets. DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE and MORE DISCIPLINE! i grew up in a torture chamber but walahi i will forever be grateful. no soft happy-dovey-lovey BS. corporal punishment is REQUIRED which doesn't conform to the liberal media's POLITICALLY CORRECT subversive ploy to destroy traditional family values. +1000000

Good advice Chimera. I grew up in one of the toughest neighbourhoods in all of Canada and so I've had my fair share of close calls.

Coofle;935128 wrote: You only know written arabic,,,once you go to Arab country you will have difficult time understanding the language...Alas! that is why what I read and what people say don't match also...I should stick with books and little sujuis... Sadaqta! Wallaahi la astatiic an afhamu haadihii lahaajaat al-mukhtalifa, wa bacdahum yadxakuun xiina yasmacuunanii atakallam bil carabi. Yajibu calayi aan usaafira ilaa sharqal-awsat wa askunu hunaaka 1 sana calal caqal idaa uriid an ukuunu fluent. Coofle, I havent studied arabic for years. At the level I am currently, how long do u think it will take me to become fluent?

Waranle_Warrior;934956 wrote: ^No one is saying the region or the city belongs to any one group but what we are saying is that the D-block make up the majority of these regions. That's the fact you are denying. Secessionist's hate for anything D or what they call the defeated lot is too clear . So I gather the opposite isnt true? Come on bro grow up.

Cambuulo soo judhiiba kugu maan garan?

Safferz;934796 wrote: You won't be able to learn from the internet alone -- you need to invest in a good English/Swahili dictionary, and one or two books (if you can find one that comes with an audio CD, even better) that will help you with learning grammar structure. Swahili does borrow heavily from Arabic in its vocabulary, but in its structure it's a Bantu language so it's important to find a book that will explain it well and teach you the patterns. Make sure you study daily and supplement it with listening/watching Swahili language television and radio, and also try your best to find native speakers to practice communicating with. You won't learn a language on your own, the most effective way has to be a combination of studying and putting what you've learned to work in conversation with native speakers. Let me know when you're learning Amharic Excellent advice Safferz. This is essentially what I did when I was studying Arabic, except I didn't have Arab friends so practising with native speakers was not really an option.

Bess.;934787 wrote: Lol...true Che, but I fight the idea that I am an elitist, or bigoted and I try to keep an open to other people around me. I am glad that being educated has opened my mind and I will not tolerated ignorance and negativity.....like calling women trash xalimos:mad:[/i ] But what if some of them really are trash? Leftist PC culture and their relativity claptrap has really deluded us. We have to judge people who have no shame and no morals...or else what incentive is there to be good? And why would Allah send Prophets and create heaven and hell? If there are no trash men and woman out there, then y should we even have any standards when choosing a mate? U see, we all judge...some r just in denial about it. Being a judgemental person who looks down on others is a totally different matter though. It should never lead to arrogance or mistreament of others, but should just guide people in their decision making processes.

DoctorKenney;934613 wrote: If a Somali woman wants to marry a revert, by all means....do whatever makes you happy. But to set different standards for Somali men and reverts is disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful. How can you expect so much from a Somali man yet expect so little from a revert? Men are men. It's a bad idea to start putting men (or women for that matter) on a pedestal simply because they come from a different race. A 20k wedding from a Farax but a 5k wedding from a revert. It seems like this woman has an inferiority complex . And that's precisely the problem. A lot of young woman hate being Somali and everything associated with it as a result of the civil war and the condition of Somalis in the qurbaha.

Haatu;934597 wrote: Alpha, does he want to join our clique or something ? He's welcome but he must know there are some conditions. Oba, iska soo dhaji xitaa hadduu qabyo yahey kolley wax quman maahee Who r the members of this exclusive clique?

Illyria;934577 wrote: Somalia is a modern trusteeship of which affairs are being managed by the international community where its leaders, project manager to be more accurate, have neither the authority nor the capacity to oversee its affairs. Are its citizens aware of that? I wish to come back to develop the argument another day. Yet they have the audacity to tell Somaliland, a state where the citizens do have a say, to join it's abysmal state of modern trusteeship. SHM.

Anigu iska qalbi xab xab baan ahow cidna ignore-garayn kari maayo, inkastoo aan mararka qaar u dhowaado . Hadiise aan ficilo noocaas ah ku kaco waxaan kaga bilaabi lahaa mid la yidhaa Dr. Osman. Alla muxu ninku threads aan micno ku fadhiyin meesha ka soo buuxshay lol.

Safferz;934537 wrote: You removed the line about not being a relativist lool, didn't think it was relevent. But yes, I despise moral relativity and it's proponents.

Maaddeey;934521 wrote: ^^ What about dadka aan '...yaga, iwm' isticmaalinba?. Somalis who don't use the 'yaga' or 'naga' suffixes use context to understand the intent of the speaker. This is no different than English. Eg, you ask your wife 'when should we sell our house?' The same exact question can be asked to your neighbours, yet everyone who hears the question will know that your neighbours don't share the home with u while your wife does.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;934524 wrote: Probably a kitaab. Waa hadii u gacan furanyahay

Iool, u got me wrong. I'm all for bashing the type of family u just described in your story, and i'm against marrying ajanabi's as a rule. It's just that there is a streak of simplistic predictability that runs through your story that rarely occurs in real life with all it's complexities. It's seems more like something u made up to ingite a heated debated on the topic. So is it true or what?

For some reason I get the feeling that ur story is made up. If it isn't then u dodged a bullet my friend, so take solace in that.

That's a lot of unnecessary cleavage. Besides that good to see a Somali comic book.

Safferz;934311 wrote: Is there not a line we can draw for acceptably safe and unsafe conditions, rather than see it as relative? I agree with you that their sense of safety and normalcy is calibrated with their conditions, that's what I was getting at -- new ideas of "normal" and "safe" emerge in conflict and post-conflict contexts, when the reality may be that human security is still precarious. Since social and economic conditions vary widely through out the world we should adjust the analytic lens we use to fit local context when dissecting disparate peoples perceptions of safety/danger, rich/poor etc. Socio-economic appraisals of this kind are inherently relative and it's very difficult, if not impossible, to draw a line that would represent an objective assessment that the vast majority of the world population could agree on. Such a feat would assume identical points of references (thus identical histories and development trajectories) when societies conjure up unsafe and unstable conditions. So whatever line we attempt to draw will be nothing more than a Western, postmodern, postwar (at least on our shores) criterion that has no place in the developing, conflict prone and often times preindustrial world, unless our experiences are somehow more 'real' and thus more valid as measures.

Safferz;934291 wrote: That's true, but you can also observe a lot in a few weeks or months in a different place. I'll also go as far as saying people who live back home can sometimes have a distorted sense of safety and normalcy (because certain conditions/realities have become a new normal, in a way), which is why I'm interested in the perspectives of visitors. I have relatives in more unstable areas who will tell you everything is fine and urge you to visit, when it really isn't. I wouldnt say their sense of safety and normalcy is distorted, because its perfectly calibrated with the conditions they find themselves in. They just have a different standard against which they judge safety/normalcy.

Safferz;934264 wrote: Hmm. I'm just trying to gauge the level of normalcy and safety there these days before I decide to go (I was thinking about visiting sometime in 2014). Sounds like it's still too soon for what I'm comfortable with, though. When u say there u mean moqadishu right?

Actually it means benefit. I was talking about the meaning of 'our' in relation to the suffixes 'yada' vs 'eena'. Wasn't implying that dantayada means our.