Tallaabo;959582 wrote: "Wadani" is a club for the useless, the traitors, political has been, electoral losers, ideological flip flops, ambitious thieves, power hungry wh0res, malicious tribalists, and the politically out of debt waste of space opportunists. I hate it and UCID is not much different either. It's a pity that I can most likely narrow down ur subclan just by ur rant above. Somali party politics is nothing more than rival clans jostling for power. But I do agree with you that this welcome for the Professor is way over the top. Runtii waa laga badbadiyay.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;959377 wrote: They dragged a dead body, cut into pieces to keep as a collectible. That was an ugly scene and unprecedented in Soomaali history, whether he was a soldier or not. That wasn't our dhaqan, plus it was un-Islamically immoral, too. I agree with u that it was wrong and against our dhaqan and diin, but I don't think the two situations are comparable.

Haatu;959325 wrote: The gaalos are a foregone conclusion. Ilaahay baa waa hore xaaladdooda iyo islaam nacaybkooda inoo caddeeye. Ok, but they are still responsible for their evil actions. I would understand if u said u arent shocked by what they did, but to absolve them of blame is ridiculous.

Haatu;959320 wrote: You see the problem those crazy Khawarijs cause for the rest of us? All blame falls on them, not these foolish islamaphobes. All of it? Strange.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;959047 wrote: Soomaalideena askarigii Mareykanka ahaa dhulka markaa ku jiid jiideynay, Soomaali dhan in wada caayo ma jeclaan lahayd? Waa maya. Apples and oranges. That American soldier was an enemy combatant killed in a firefight. The Somali guy was an innocent man killed by xenophobic savages. The American soldier wan't stoned to death, he was already dead when his body was being dragged through the streets. The Somali man suffered a slow and painful death at the hands of subhaman excrements. No comparisons or moral parallels can be drawn here.

Taleexi;957569 wrote: To the sick secessionist sect. Let the thread takes its course, don't kill the artistic aspect of it prematurely with your nuances . And for the record, Darvishes were not only one clan's struggle . No need for name calling when the only point I was making was the bolded one above.

Good job for posting this Chimera.

Wow, I had no idea such software existed. Thanks.

Can u expain how number 7 works?

Saalax;957503 wrote: My point is simple. You don't have to be on the defensive from someone whose whole Sultan was a British lackey that was shipped to Seychelles of our Xiinfaniin here. Just remind them many of them were British lackies and if historic sources dating to the 19th century are needed , it shall be posted. All in all, be on the offensive not defensive. lool, I catch ur drift. But I wouldn't be on the offensive nor defensive if they would only stick to actual credible history and not the twisted and fantastical kacaan renditions of Aw jaamac Siciid and Faarax Idaajaa.

Saalax;957500 wrote: You were talking about your group but you lack knowledge of who was lackey. Many Khaatumo and Maakhir groups Were British lackies , including their Sultans. The most preferred Ilalos/Guards/Spies of the British were from Khaatumo. Whoa...chill there. No need to call me ignorant, especially when it's u who misunderstood the obvious sarcasm in my post. I was expaining to Xiin that history isn't black and white, and that entire sections of the SNM clan were Daraawiish, just like entire section from the Khaatumites and other D-block were fiercely anti-Daraawiish. And this whole notion of being lackeys for the British is nonsense...there was no somali clan that loved the Saancaddaale. They were either overpowered by them into submission or they used them for protection and aid against rival clans.

saalax, reread what I wrote.

xiinfaniin;957490 wrote: Haatu, your knowledge of Somali clans could be forgiven for obvious reasons, but the Garaad clan are my favorite when it comes the rich history they had, and the political stance they once took to confront the invading colonial forces . Wadanis, DOCs, just like Oodweyne's were mere translators and guides at that time . Ali would have turned in his grave at the sight of Wadani and DOC trying to rewrite history :D The poem you referenced is out of context. Aduunyo Yes, mere guides though it was Burco that gave birth to the Daraawiish movement, with 4 of it's 5 early leaders being from durriyadda, most notable among them being the Suldaan of the H.Y. I guess we were just mere guides too when Koofil was killed by Daraawiish from the Durriyadda as he attempted, with his army of 300 Khaatumites, to retrieve the looted camels of a certain khaatumite clan. I guuss we were boot-shining when the 2 of the 3 places to be bombed by the Biritsh were in Durriyad territory, namely Jibali and Midhisho. I am proud that many Khaatumite clans (not all, many were anti daraawiish, including ur favourite poet Cali Dhuux) fought bravely against the saancaddaale. Y can't u Xiin, do the same, and stop speading lies against an entire clan? History is all Somalis have left, so I cant just sit around when others try to sh*t on mine.

Haatu;957485 wrote: Remember this, if one Somali tribe was stronger/better than another Somali tribe, then why does the supposed "weaker" tribe exist today? What I'm trying to say is Soomaali ma kala adka. Everything else has been finished by DOC. Yes, this is true for the most part.

xiinfaniin;957479 wrote: Apologies for Abtigiis and SOL readership for going on a tangent and digressing from the Khaatumo romance and love stories But separatist kids who have been equipped with wrong geography and history needs to be responded to at times I won't entertain your revisionist historical hallucinations, though I will concede, as it's in my just nature to do so, that the Khaatumites were of an equal pedigree to the Durriyad when it came to the regional sport of all pastoral Somalis.

Saalax;957473 wrote: Weaker clan? Is that why Oodweyne's people looted thousands of Khaatumo camels in the battle of Hogaagane and even allegedly Women? or perhaps when Igare took their livestock with many of his Burco kins in the Haud. The biggest raid in Somali history. 60, 000 heads of camels, goats/sheep and horses. It was called 'Hagoogane', because nimankii oo kibir awgii la hagoogtay ayaa soo noqday. .

Abtigiis;957456 wrote: :D :D Or slap unsuspecting child and force him to go to bed ahead of schedule just to alert the man things will not pass in silence that night. .

warsamaale;957394 wrote: He knows it I don't, care to enlighten me?

warsamaale;957354 wrote: well said Aaliyah, D.O.C waa ka ugu af xun secessionists SOL soo gala. those insults betray his inner insecurity and inferiority vis-a-vis the said people. hence the need to boost his ego constantly through his crude posts. What inferiority?

Reeyo;957115 wrote: I can't see there being any problems. The returnees usually learn quick and loose their kibir and the locals stop viewing the qoorbos as strangers. The biggest issue would be economical terms- returnees have money and get jobs easier because they speak English . Precisely the kinds of things im talking about.

Alpha Blondy;957112 wrote: i could write a small book about your question wadaniga dhabtaoooow, balse that's bound to be BS. this is the truth: cilmi aan caqli laheyn =Diaspora/Returnee caqli aan cilmi laheyn = Reer Somaliyeed/local

Reeyo;957098 wrote: Wadani- I like his smiles, let him show he doesn't give a damn. The other guy looks like something is up his.... And he always does...Faroole never disappoints.

Faroole looks like the president here lool. This Hassan guy is always smiling and always comes off as too eager to please. He needs to learn how non verbal symbolic body landuage can subtlely effect political outcomes.

Boom Boom;957066 wrote: Somali men are worthless. No morals or dignity. Biggest mistake Canada made was letting these animals in this beautiful country. Can Canada deport all Somali men? Can we make that happen? Adigoo nool is aas, illeen kolayba bakhti baad tahee.

Title should read 'Locals vs Returnees' How will the large influx of Somalis from the diaspora effect Somalia? Will the inevitable differences and fissures between the locals and returned qurbo-joogta, as a result of diverging experiences and interests, gradually begin to enroach on the primacy of the clan system as the main organizer of Somali society? Will the obvious and often times glaring cultural, economic and general worldview discrepancies between the two said groups lead to socio-political tensions and possibly conflicts that will define the coming era of post-civil war Somalia?