The Somalis of that time were of a different breed. Somalis today are almost unrecognizable, as they share no traits with the Somalis of yore.

Mad_Mullah;976356 wrote: What's the point, everyone is using dollar anyways It's largely symbolic.

Homunculus;976329 wrote: The UN report was like reading every somali forum in the past 10 months, it was full of rumors and conspiracy theories and didn't provide any evidence to support its findings. That doesn't mean it didn't contain kernels of truth the problem is it felt like a Garoodi and Dr.Osman collaboration ( very biased) . looool

Che -Guevara;976319 wrote: lol@Wadani ha isdaalin duqa. Ditoore. We love Galkacayo:-)

Dr_Osman;976316 wrote: What you mean afar tuulo? adeer puntland is building all of it's cities. If we combined all that and did what the HAG boys do and invest in say Bosaso would you call it a tuulo then? BTW wait for the UNFPA census we will see exactly where its a tuulo or not. Kor baan ka hadlayay, ayaandarrose meel hoosaad wax ka eegaysa. Waar Punlandtan iyo Somalilandtan la sheego waxba kama jiraan. Somalia wax layidhaahdaana majirto.Ee haddaad ku faraxsantahay the status quo iska baashaal saaxiib. They say ignorance is bliss, reality-gu se waa qadhaadh.

Horta ninyahoo maskax yaridaa. Adduunyadaadii oo dhan waxaad ku soo koobtay Puntland. Adeer, adduunyadu 4 tuulo oo aan xitaa musqulo lahayn (including afarta xabbee Somaliland ku yaal oo aan anigu ka soo jeedo) oo lagu faano waa ka wayntahay kana amuuro balaadhantahay ee cidhiidhiga iska daa.

Mad_Mullah;976305 wrote: So because they're more tribal they're more violent? That's nonsense. Bring facts saxib. Fact is Somaliland tribe as soon as they toppled the government worked together - created an army/police/government etc. the HAG started fighting one another like animals - destroying mosques/government/cultural buildings - hospitals - houses anything and everything like savages. Garowe got their shit together to. Saying the North is worse is like saying there's more freedom in North Korea than South Korea. When you say southerner to me it means Biyom@al, Raxanw@yn, Reer Xamar (yacni cad cadka), Ba@ntu, Barawa@ni, Ba@juuni iyo kuwo kale oo aan hadda illowsanahay. Saaxiib, the violence in the south is nothing more than rival northern clans (whether in the geographic or cultural sense) vying for power and in the process colonising the true southerners who I have mentioned above. There is no difference between a Mrxn guy from Garbahaaray, a H.G. guy from Cadaado and a H.Y. guy from Burco in terms of their qabiili mentality and proneness to violence. So, it's not a north vs south thing, it's a geeljire/qabiili vs beeralay/xoogsade divide that explains this phenomenon. Besides Xamar is the capital, so ofcourse it has been the epicentre of violence for the past two decades. Was Cabdullaahi Yuusuf a southerner when he brought his militia and the Ethiopians into Xamar in 2006? Are Axmed Godane and the upper echelon of Al-shabaab southerners? Are all those vying for power in Jubbaland HAG? Come on bro.

Mad_Mullah;976299 wrote: The land might be bad but the people are civilized . So you agree that it's to do with infrastructure/city or the lack of it. Biggest myth ever. Northern Somalis are more tribal and thus more violent than their southern counterparts. And besides, northerners (I'm including H.G. in this category too, as they are culturally more akin to northerners) are very much involved in the endemic violence raging in the south.

GAROODI;976167 wrote: ^^^ when you fail in battle, in diplomacy, in democracy, in decency and in providing for your people..... Go on tv. Haha. No one really gives a sh(t what this man has to say... What can he actually do? No influence, no strength, nothing. But we are baxbaxland haha. Keep up the good work soon to be governer general farole. One thing I love about this guy is he destroys pirates p.r. The most hated somali grouping from south to north hahah. This is over the top bro. Faroole has been quite friendly towards Somaliland for the most part, and many of his grievances against the SFG have some basis. Waa oday wayn oo waliba gabadh inaga qaba ee ka xishoo dee,

Haatu;976174 wrote: The educated ones probably don't rate their language, similar to the Somalis in Kenya. U mean the poo-brained self-hating qashin.

Somalia;975723 wrote: We are in a situation where secessionists believe climate determines how good-looking you are, no wonder they worship the British white man. Yall need to give that a rest. Your lots revisionism has been exposed.

Duufaan;975649 wrote: In fact same thing happened the north and north west Somalia. The Gala tribes were inhabitant and were defeated by Khaatumo's horse men and later Wiil Waal late 17 and early 18 century, including today Hargeysa . Hahahaa!!!! As you can see everyone this DA@roodism business is akin to madness. So I guess Khaatumo and Abs@me warriors liberated the entire north west from the Oromo and out of the kindness of their hearts gave the bulk of this new Somai territory to their sworn and bitter enemies since time immemorial the SNM'ers, who hithero lived in subjugation under their Gala overlords. looool. You just can't make this stuff up.

Alpha Blondy;975326 wrote: interesting, maha? your thoughts are welcome. Very very interesting.

Haatu;975153 wrote: I know what you mean. Despite its many faults at least dawladdii kacaanka put a lot of effort into developing the language but the leaders of today fall short big time in the section. The President can barely give a decent speech in Somali forget about them developing or even preserving it. The last real government we've had. SNM, SSDF, USC and SPM had to ruin everything.

Abbaas;975128 wrote: War Nuunoow inaar, aaway afcelintii aan kaa sugayey ee kusaabsanayd Barnaamijka Disqus? https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/disqus/ Gabaggabedii website-ka baan marayaa mana doonayo in aan adeegsado af kale oo aan ahayn Soomaaliga. Dib u eege cusub baan goordhow la xiriiray laakiin turjumaano baa iga maqan. 'Goordhawayd' ayaa ku habboon. 'Goordhow' waxaa loo adeegsan karaa oo kaliya waxa soo socda (future). Reer koonfur haddaad tihiin eraygaas waad ku ciyaarteen.

Blackflash;974683 wrote: Why do you punish yourself Safferz? Either openly attack Islam or feminist ideology, perhaps even both. The two are completely incompatible in their current state and you'll only further torture yourself and others on this board by attempting to reconcile them. +1000

YoniZ;974542 wrote: Warheedhe dadkan SOL wax ku qora maxaa si ka'ah? Laba Somali ah oo maangaabnimo darteed ayagu heshiin waayey, hadana Adis loogu kala dabqaadayo maxaa guuloo ku jirta. War dadaw bal caqliga kashaqeysiiya oo kuwa Bari, Waqooyi, Bartamaha, iyo Koonfur jooga waa dad walaalo, xidid iyo ehel ahe shaydaanka iska naara. Qolyahan qurbaha jooga ee Netka kuwareeray har iyo habeen bal cudurka qabyaalada halaga gubo, hana loo duceeyo inuu Allah caafiyo. +1000000

Normal life? Miyaad waalantahay mise waad soo wadataa?

Classified;974135 wrote: okay, so you were talking about politicians. I totally agree with you. There are two problems. Those that screaming about somaliweyn ha jirto iyo somalia ha noolaato, while the scent of animosity is in the air between somali tribes are a problem. They are not tackling the issue, rather run towards something that isn't really there anymore. The other problem is, those that live in peace in certain areas part of somalia, such as Boorama, Hargeisa, Garowe iyo Boosaaso, whom are not doing their duty as Somali by trying to do their part in bring together the people, holding reconciliation conferences and not just run away with the little they have. They too are a problem. U've hit the nail on the head.

Classified;973178 wrote: Farhareri, did you know Coodanle, Qurulugud, Bali Dhig, Caynaba, Bohol and even Ceel-Afweyn were once settled by the Khaatumo/Garaad clan? GAROODI's actions can be justified. The guy's great grandfather lived in a 2km by 2km territory in a mountain near Berbera. Ever since the defeat of the Daraawish, GAROODI's tribe has expanded tremendously, quadrupling their territory. Caynaba was a Dhulos town in the 1950s. Oog and Ceel Dhab were a Dhulos towns in the 1980s. GAROODI has never lost a territory, but has gained it for at least 100 years straight. His latest attempt to "take over" was in Kalshaale and I'm sure it ain't over, yet. Kalshaale will be lost either thru peaceful means or thru bloodshed. lol Actually the wars of Durriyad expansion started in the 1700's, predating colonialism and the Daraawiish.

Somalia;973087 wrote: Taleex, Xudun, Buhoodle, Dhahar, Las Qoray, Ceerigaabo districts are all not under secessionist control but rather locally administered, which means only Laascaanood is. U sure about Ceerigaabo?

Xaaji Xunjuf;973081 wrote: Why are you dividing the Maakhir and the Garaad clan are they not one clan. And lumping the SNM clans as one u do know the SNM clans consist of 8 clans. This myth that Somaliland consist of 5 clans is new to me. Somaliland controls 95% of the former British Somaliland protectorate in my eyes they are all on board from east to west. Very good point. He should either say there are 3 clans in the Somaliland, being the D.ir, SNM clan and H@rti, or should note the subclans of the snm clan seperately if he's willing to count the rest on a subclan basis. This method would make the northern sub-clans 12 in total, with 8 being SNM sub-clans. The Hobbesian is forgetting that the SNM clan wuxu la siman yahay D-block and HAG.

Hobbesian_Brute;973078 wrote: It can't it be a success if out of the 5 constituent clans at the outset, only one clan is for it now and all others have rejected it. Back to the drawing board. I'll concede that the majority of Khaatumites and Maakhirians are opposed to secession, but the entire Jesus clan and the overwhelming majority of Awdalites, including their traditional leaders, are staunch supporters of Somaliland's political aspirations.

Hobbesian_Brute;972576 wrote: she doesn't look somali, maybe a mix with another race. She's Xamar Cad-Cad/Reer Xamar.

Nin-Yaaban;972535 wrote: Maya. The U.S system is way more fair. lol