Dadkan carurtooda iska so dayaaa ha iska modaharadan just get the police riot gear furthermore try people in court legally we are not pirates we need to win hearts and minds build national cooperation move away from bull*** tribalism

All reasonble somali particularly mugdisho etc do not care about federalism let's remember the only reason federalism was even considerd was to accommodate somaliland to give gurentees clearly somaliland says we don't want federalism or Somalia for that matter so the pirates they use it for their own beneift they want monoply now throgh false tribal federalism hence why they always argue that mugdisho should be shared domain even though the people there want a state of their own if eveyone else gets one why shouldn't they I learnt not trust pirates what they want is not nationalism or statehood they want tribal hegemony the good old days and like my friend buura said as long as somaliland is alive we will make sure that doesn't happen and logic states that it cannot happen because somalis are more clever then before. ........... I think I heard another pirate bubble burst. I think your all starting to see what we see this is what destroyed Somalia this is what keeps it back and this mentality has made u all permanent refugees in foreign lands this cancer must be removed or.marginalised.for the betterment of the somali proletarian or else no progress can be made

We have nothing to prove this is hot air free a.k.a somaliland. Just with the one in las caond itself we surpaced u let alone the coast and entire north ..... I just heard a bubble burst ha ha pirate dreams falling apart enjoy your well in bosaso

Just so you remember its there twice ha ha

If only pictures could conquer territory's you lot would have had everthing more action less photo ops ha ha

If only pictures and propaganda conquered territories you lot would have everything by now more action less photo ops

hmmm who should we trust Voa an impartial American somali news outlet or the pirates own classical mouth piece garowe online ....man u gotta love the concept of reason

I think it was a figure of speech he was comparing Somali politics to fart. I agree with the writper old habits die hard inshaaAllaah god knows best

Taleexi;802881 wrote: Khaatumo must be playing around with your feelings. waa dadkaaygi no hostility what so ever in my heart seriously... its a slight dig at the leadership...who ran to mugdisho to claim cainabo, oog, erigavo and many other cities they dont even live in without having anything on the ground anything tangible that is...but in all seriousness i have only love in my heart for you guys, we all Somalilanders. Inshallah feel free to join us. we work together and prosper...

On behalf of the Somalilanders on Sol Forum. I am pleading with the government of the Republic of Somaliland to go the rescue of our citizens stranded in Mugdisho. http://hadhwanaagmedia.info/detail.aspx?id=60623

General Duke;802806 wrote: Somaliland will keep deluding themselves until the bitter end. Puntland will have a say in anything to do with the unionist regions, any spoilers the peace and road map will not be tolerated.. because weeeee puuuuuuutland shekooo aya wali socotaa... saxib be greatful you sleep peacefully in garowe and bosaso...you dont have a say because you dont live their no control it...furthermore you open your mouth or show any provacation im sure you wont because you guys are always the first to run in battle...The Somaliland flag will be flying over Bosaso and Garowe...we go FOR LIBENSRUM.... We growing fast... :cool:

faarah22;802869 wrote: war kan yar puntland baa maskaxda ka gashay. you need help asap. markad dapta u shegtidna sheko tadaax tadaax bay kula imanayan... hahah :D:D

Because We Buuuutland...Pirate Logic.. Faroole (head pirate): I want peace, unity and prosperity for Somalia, even though we deport Mugdisho residence from our villages, seek war with all our naihbours...its just because Weeee Puuuutland. We want unity, through tribal division and fake federalism, I want to be federal but I don't don't want Mugdisho's people to be federal because Weee puuuuutland. We are part of Somalia even though we claiming tribal borders have our own flag, Qadddooo Constitution, and now our fake currency will become regional....but we still want Somalia because weeee puuuuutland. Soool is mine, Sannag is mine even though I can't go there...they still mine because weeee puuuuutland. Even though the land of Punt was no where near my area I still like the name because Weeee puuuuuutland... We want to speak to Somaliland because we can not defeat them in war or diplomacy so we want to find any reason to speak to them because they have our land and abuse us everywhere and they just to smart....because weeeee puuuuuuuutland... West puntland state: buuuuuuut weeee Weeest puuuuuuutland..... Somaliland: shut the Fuxxx up, this game is over.... Somalia: saxib waar Somalilanday...you should of told us about these people time ago, caaadi maha waleee... Somaliland: Somaliay...saxib dadkan xoog moyaaan ee, wax kale ma oga, wana hadal iyo xiyamo socota..ee iska chiraaa Faroole: " But weeeee puuuuuutland.

burahadeer;802621 wrote: great, who is he? Some turkish reporter...

I dont know how long you been in exile for but, no one in sanag has ever heard about Mahkir..??

NASSIR;802617 wrote: Given the rise of armed conflicts and President Shariif's endorsement of Khaatumo, the two clan-based entities are now left with no option but to welcome the new state and to refrain from current policies that fuel more armed conflict and insecurity. Accusing the TFG of destabilization or taking sides is a desperate attempt to reverse the gains made by Khatumo. read back what you wrote? you cant even visit Erigavo the city you claiming to be from...yet you talk about Mahkir and khatumo saxib you feeling alright...?? Seriously...?? I think Something might be in the water...I say we report this to the minister of water and sanitation..!!

Unleashing people power in Somalia Select Language​▼ ABDULLAH BOZKURT Saturday, March 10, 2012 MOGADISHU - When I was invited to accompany Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdağ on the Turkish Airlines (THY) maiden journey from İstanbul to Mogadishu this week, I did not hesitate to accept it. The trip gave me the chance to take a tour of the Somali capital and assess the extent to which Turkish humanitarian and development assistance are making a difference on the ground. I must say it is hard not to be impressed with the pace of the massive Turkish effort to help rebuild war-ravaged Somalia in such a short period of time. In an earlier visit, Somali Prime Minister Abdiweli Mohamed Ali told Bozdağ that Turkey has done more in three months than the UN did in five years. “UN officials told us that $1.2 billion was transferred to Somalia. We do not know where this money went. There was no hospital or school built or investment in infrastructure made. Only Turks have done all this in a short period of time,” he explained. It is not easy to dismiss Mr. Abdiweli's bitter remarks, although the UN claims most of the money went to corrupt officials and warlords. Similar remarks were also echoed by Abdirashid Duale, considered to be Somalia's most influential businessman. “I think the Turkish have changed the [development] environment, they've changed the landscape. They want to invest,” he told Reuters in an interview in February. Thanks to Turkish efforts, he said, several legitimate sectors of the economy are thriving, which in turn creates jobs, and infrastructure is improving so that merchants can explore business opportunities. The fact remains that the Turks are the only ones visible on Mogadishu's streets trying to bring the city back to life. They have succeeded to a certain degree, but so much needs to be done. While most foreign aid workers are confined to the heavily fortified African Union (AU)-supported Amisom base near the airport, hundreds of Turkish aid workers roam freely in the city center and in the outskirts of Mogadishu's devastated neighborhoods. Turks built hospitals, including the largest one in the city, refurbished existing ones with modern medical equipment, established schools, dug a couple of dozen wells for potable water and set up a tent city (which will later be converted into apartment flats by Turkey's mass housing development agency). The Turkish Red Crescent provides daily meals to some 15,000 refugees/internally displaced persons living in the newly set up center close to the airport. The Turkish approach to development and humanitarian assistance to Somalia differs distinctly from other countries and organizations. Not only did Turkey mobilize national governmental and nongovernmental organizations to rush to provide aid here but made sure the assistance efforts would be spearheaded by Turkish nationals with the cooperation of locals on the ground. It was not just about sending money and feeling good about it. They took risks while others shied away from Somalia, preferring to manage it from neighboring Kenya. The ultimate aim is to help build institutional capacity in Somalia, with a special focus on education following an effort to stabilize the famine and health crises. Ankara strongly believes only Somali people can usher the country to a new era, and for that Turkish officials are determined to educate thousands of bright young Somali students both in Turkey and in schools being built in Somalia. Hundreds have already been sent to Turkey for education. Only through the empowerment of bright Somali generations will sustainable development be achieved, Turkey claims. In the meantime, to give a further boost to the feeling of normalcy on the streets of Somalia's capital, Turkey has taken a number of steps. It drafted a plan to clean up the huge piles of debris and clutter in Mogadishu's neighborhoods. The Greater İstanbul Municipality has set up a development center in Mogadishu to oversee sanitary and garbage disposal services within the city. It has already conducted a tender for heavy equipment from street sweepers to garbage trucks, from excavators to bulldozers, which are scheduled to be delivered to the city of Mogadishu within weeks. The İstanbul mayor will send a team to operate these vehicles and to train the locals before turning them over within a year. A garbage storage facility will also soon be built for Mogadishu. Turkey has already set up an incineration facility for the huge collection of animal bones that can be seen alongside the roads, and it plans to establish three additional ones. To rebuild the decayed pavements and repair roads, the İstanbul Municipality signed an agreement with the local municipality here to build an asphalt and cement plant. With the Somali government offering basic services to residents here, the hope is that people will start believing in the promising prospect of their war-torn country. The modernization of Mogadishu airport and the launch of flights by THY, the first international carrier to do so, has already linked Somalia to the outside world. It will also help speed up delivery of logistical supplies to the country as well as humanitarian and development aid. Realizing that all these endeavors may be in vain if there is no stability or security in this beautiful East African nation in the Horn of Africa, Turkey is also extending its help to consolidate reconciliation. The aid is no longer just limited to Mogadishu but reaches out to other areas in the breakaway enclave of Somaliland and its neighbor, the semi-autonomous region of Puntland, in the north as well as to the people in the south, where al-Shabaab is still strong. Bozdağ announced Turkey would set up regional development offices in Somaliland and Puntland as well during this trip. Ankara also offered to train the Somalia police force to enforce security in the country, where many young people carry guns and businesses hire private armies to defend their interests. The main worry for Turkey and other donor countries is how to make the smooth transition from the weak interim government called the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) to a new structure six months from now with the elections coming up. Internal fighting among local clans, tribes and the power feud among political and business groups may sabotage the reconciliation efforts, eventually hampering development aid. The most formidable asset Somalia now has against this doomsday scenario is the “newly emerged hope.” That will prevent chaos, violence and terrorism from thriving. I believe in this new environment, any group or clan that engages in armed conflict will risk a backlash from the Somali people, who are fed up with the fighting. They will be marginalized very much like the militant al-Shabaab, which was accused of impeding the flow of international emergency food aid to famine-struck communities. Any TFG official who wanted to manipulate the political process to stay in office for personal gain would eventually fade into obscurity. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's open threat to spoilers in Somalia during a conference in London last month was significant in overcoming political feuds here. She proposed sanctions, including a travel ban and asset freezes, on people inside and outside the TFG who seek to undermine peace and security, or delay or even prevent the political transition. The follow-up conference in İstanbul in June, two months before the mandate of the TFG expires, will take up these proposals in detail. The involvement of Turkey, the only Muslim member in NATO, which had historical ties in Ottoman times with Somalia, also refutes the claims of militant radical groups who say the Western interest in Somalia is another crusade against a Muslim state. Turkey also pushed the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) to the front lines in leading campaign of aid to Somalia. Turkish Secretary-General of the OIC Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu called on all Somali parties to remain united, cohesive and strictly focused on the tasks ahead during his speech at the London conference. At the end of the day, it is up to the Somalis themselves to lead this campaign of nation-building. I sense that the people of Somalia are already committed to achieving this and that they are no longer willing to compromise their future. They appreciate the Turkish help and any other assistance extended to them, but they are determined to carry the flag themselves. And rightly and deservedly so. By unleashing real human potential in this vibrant Somalia, the people will definitely change the fate of the country for what seems to be a promising future. ABDULLAH BOZKURT a.bozkurt@todayszaman.com regardless of what happens i wish the best for my brothers and sister in Somalia, May God give you peace and prosperity inshallah a decent government, keep you safe from the pirates, and establish justice and give you leadership free of clans and curroption. Spread the Love man...:cool: 20 years of hate is too long. Except reality on the ground, let bygones be bygones...agree to disagree and work together if we cant agree on politics, lets agree on humanitarian projects.. :cool:

Mario B;802603 wrote: I'm glad your true colours have come out, your're just a warmonger... KS is going to put your lil project to bed. thinking of it, we dont need to do anything....The world have told where to go. That was aimed at the pirates...You Mario you always welcome to Somaliland its your country...like i said i dont believe in khatumo but it dont mean we cant live together and share Somaliland. i am a nationalist at heart i dont care what qabil you are Somalilander is Somalilander for me. Always welcome little brother. No war inside Somaliland ever...i dont believe in War in las canod or buhoodle...but the pirates they different story altogether.. They outside Somaliland borders...they free game..

burahadeer;802588 wrote: no recognition and in lascanod for eva. first you use to say you have no rivers & nothing to eat. Then, you will crumble in few yrs by urslvs. Then the americans in bosaso(94) on their way to hargeisa. Then A.Yusuf is president & u will see. Then the Islamic courts will take care of you. Then Shabab will take care of you. Then we will crush you. Now all what is left for you is u won't be recognized.I'm happy that you atlast talking about recognition. Good you seeing the light. saxib, even after afwayne, Africa's 2 largest army, South African mercanaries waxay modayan khatumo aya waax naga qadaysa...if this was me, after these people whiped out my army i would shut up...its because they never seen war in their degaaans saxib...although i despise war...they say experiences broadens the mind, We are 20 miles from Garowe and Bosaso through Sanag...be thankful you sleep at night and keep your mouths shut. hahahaha....maskeeen.:cool:

Mario B;802591 wrote: Is this mafrish logic, you sounded like a retard there, you will not kill Somalia while it has it's people. And the world told you where to go------> Villa Somalia this way. Buraa... dont waste your breath saxib no concept of reality, logic, justice, reason etc...i dont know why you bother..hahaha <------- Villa Burundi is actually this way Mario

Mario B;802567 wrote: Siad isn't/wasn't my uncle unless you know something that I dont, and my claim still stands....."SL" recognition is pipedream. :cool: However in vain you try. Somaliland exists on the ground and the real pipe dream is khatumo and Somalia, the conclusion i reached after seeing how these people talk is that Somalia has no future its sad but these people detest each other on an online forum let alone in the real world let alone as part of the same nation state... Mario...This is a video its called the kingdom of Khatumo...just released. Khatumo is behind my closet.

Mario B;802564 wrote: IshaaAllah, Somalia Republic Hanoolato!! :cool: P.s Only a fool would save a couple towns and live the rest [ 80 percent of Somalis and 80 percent territory] to death and destruction.:mad: ill take that as a tribalist no hiding behind the mascarade of false nationalism then...ok suit yourself..

Mario B;802530 wrote: You're wlc,...I was just pointing to your hypocrisy. I hope no offence was taken. :cool: none taken bro...inshallah you join us soon, your people are our people..why dont you set the stage of anti tribalism join Somaliland as it is in your view tribalist join us make it less tribalist, we live in Sool and Sanag together seems logical based on what you said you seem to oppose tribalism whats the point of khatumo, join Somaliland

Mario B;802548 wrote: I'm glad you didn't refute my claims. :cool: Mario i feel sorry for you walahi.. waan cu ducayn dona lakin.. Inshallah khayr bay noqon donta wax walba.

Mukulaalow;802427 wrote: or you can say Biibito. did you say Bibaa...seriously, i never understood southern dialect, no disrespect just never understood it... i had a friend over once...he called my romote control a "cali camando".... i asked him te leave...hahaha no, im kidding, it just sounded strange.