Furthermore Dervish the man wasnt even a puritant muslim: he was a believer in mystisim hence why the whirling dervish... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIofU-0jC0 And i dont know why you love him so much because the man killed more las canoders then Somaliland and the British put together: do your research...he wiped out more then half your people..women and children had to be resettled after the war in towns like Shieck, Burco and Hargaisa.

furthermore even though the first defectors were SSDF we all know they sat in Ethiopia doing nothing and actually raised the Ethiopian flag inside Somalia: The SNM were thee primary force to remove Siad Barre from Somaliland and hence when this was done: the somali central bank collapesed..which is a known fact..

lol@ Sayid Abdulle Hassan created Somaliweyn...the footsoldier of the mad mullah forces of the Sudan created Somaliweyn..The mans history highlights his only passion was to fight against the british and remove them from Somaliland..this was a hatred he developed as a footsoldier in the sudan when he fought for the forces of the mahdi a title he adopted later on. Somaliweyn as a concept was created and born in Somaliland as history shows: It was Somaliland that engaged in persuading the South to form a union which would hence include Djibouti, Somali Galbed and NFD. In terms of your people living in areas...land and population are two different things my friend Dervish...its a known fact you live in the most isolated and inhospitable land somali's inhabit, is it down to weakness or choice i dont know... look at Bari, Eastern Sool, Eastern Sanag and nugaaal...as an example they are without doubt the most inhospitable land within Somalia with sporadic villages..you have land that no one wants in abundance mashalah..no one denies that but like i said its sporadically populated. The largest urbanised centers of the former Somali republic as everyone is aware is Mugdisho and its locality and Hargaisa and its locality...its a known fact...with that said even looking at the population centres of and mass shows..you are a minority saxib. Kenya is kenya and Ethiopia is Ethiopia..they dont count because they aint yours.

^^^ lets not get that started..dont wanna blow my own trumpet.. but dervish...end of the line old man...end of the line...your top man has thrown in the towel with the likes of xagle tosiye...it seems everyone has surrendered except saaadoo calliii lol....waaaa ina lagu jihaaaaadaaa turned into walalayaal anu wada hadalno... or in other words baaaaacaaaaaaaaaaac.....lool. Walahi wilgin riwayad baad ahaydayn...haaal dagal o Somaliland add ka xog badnateen ma jiro even with africa's third largest army waa laydinka badiyay...bax bax an damanyn walahi dadkan waan ka dalay... lakin alxamudilah ilahay wuxu na siyay cadowgi ugu litaaay wuxu aburaay...

What history do you have? other then political and military failures in every level. Somalilanders created the xeer tribal system, they wrote the somali language, they made the largest colonial power on earth sign their terms, they created the political concept of Somaliweyn, Were heads of the first independent somali state, they lead in the liberation of djibouti and Somalia...they destroyed and raped your uncle and his large army leaving you refugees up until today running around screaming khatumooo loool... Saxib what history do you have?? you have no history what so ever...Even in terms of tribe you live in villages like las canod and bosaso...While Somalilanders live in major cities like Hargaisa, Burco, Borama and others which are heavily populated.. The people of Mugdisho are the mostnumerious in Somalia followed by Somalilanders in the present state of Somalia you are a minority which is about to be ripped apart between two states and you or your khatumoo forces loool cant do anything about it.. Even in Ethiopia Somalilanders live from Gashamo to Dagaxbuur and Aware which is the entire former Reserve Area. Enjoy life in exile with the likes of Galayd screaming bacaaaaaaac .:cool: I think that says it all...when your leader and savour throws in the towel we can mutually except this is the end of the line. But dont feel bad..considering your long list of losses i thought you would be use to it by now??

^^^^ i think libaaan takes Cali Galyd literally...the man is the biggest con artist in somali politics...Somaliland extended peace therefore from what i know its always better to talk of peace then kill people...I personally would shot Galayd in the face but hey...people have different methods of dealing with things...i hope peace provails for the sake of the people of Eastern Sool.

^^^ the facts speak for themselves...I didnt create history...history is history facts are facts...it just takes people to remind people of those facts and create a political solution based on historical facts...The future of the preservation of the Somali race is in two seperate states run from Mugdisho and Hargaisa and the isolation and limitation of the cancer that has plagued somali's since 1960.

lets not jump the gun...which is the somali tradition overall...the UN is not ******..this wont be the UN head office at least not till the struggle with alshabab is present...there are daily explosions in Mugdisho so i really do doubt this story...considering kenya has stated it will not invade kismayo and the Ethiopians remain west of Somalia along gedo, hirraan and bakool and they are a temporary force and not a permanent force.. the ground is still loose and i doubt this will happen the situation on the ground is still not stable.

They beat me to it....noooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

no in all seriousness the problem with Somali's is the vision required for nation building and nation maintaining. Your right Somalia went through alot of problems but historically speaking its problems have been comming from one corner...lets look at the facts...the very concept of Somali unity was born today in the most anti unionist somali state: Somaliland, ask yourself why..because Somalia robbed this state of its equal share in terms of politics, governance and furthermore used its tax dollars to wipe out a large portion of its population? so in essence you have the very prioneers of Somaliweyn being attacked...furthermore block have had control of Somalia and have pretty much led it off a cliff with severe political immaturity..if you look back since 1960 unificiation between Somaliland and Somalia... Siad barre war with Ethiopia were he failed to allign himself with ethier the Soviet Union or U.S.A. committing Suicide and costing Somali's the Somali Galbed. not only that but we are also familiar with their support of the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia which removed the islamic courts union the only entity to establish peace across Somalia due to petty power politics, they also supported the american invasion against general aided...therefore with this said its clear the somali poison is coming from one direction. I see the solution to the Somali problem as simple to solve... Give the people of Mugdisho total control over the entire former italian state of Somalia with a central government seeing they are the majority and somalia is to small to be a federal state...furthermore Somaliland will not back down so instead of further blood shed its rights as a soverign state as of pre 1960 union with Somalia has to be respected. Therefore cancelling out the poison that has been holding Somalia behind with the real clan politics and problems... This is the only political solution: a Two state solution dominated by Mugdisho and Hargaisa to cancel out the poison that has destroyed Somalia since 1960...

Somalia;779247 wrote: Interestingly enough, I've been contemplating the very idea that we might have a set of primitive people in our midst. I mean, what could the explanation be otherwise? You stated it, we are a homogeneous people, the only ones in Africa apart from Botswana. So maybe we should explore whom in our midst is this primate and how shall we defeat him. Lets start by examing Somalia and his lot... hahahaha:D

If it is the last hope of Somalia being united..... hahahahahaha BYE BYE...MAC SALAMA....HAHAHAH...No more unity then...:cool:

Abokor Omar;779249 wrote: Twisting history to fit your narrow vision will not help you in today's race. British Somaliland was liberated by those who control it today through nonviolent means. Historical records will agree with this fact. It's only fair that the destination of Somaliland's future today, are decided by those who freed it from colonialism and afewynism. Those minorities who dwell inside Somaliland will be respected so long as they respect the rule of law. The union is null and void... Dude dont waste your time with these Somalians believe me...Somalia AU UN Trusteeship State...bax bax bacaaaaaac.... We will see..:cool:

See thats what differentiate people like you and me...because i couldnt give a dam what the rest of humanity think..all i think about is long term interest. Somalia as a viable state is dead regardless.. the rest of humanity dont have to know me...but im confident when my objective has been met they will not only know me..but admire what i went through to achieve it... Dont Forget The Peoples Republic of China Waited 60 years for official recognition while it fought against the Republic of China..Taiwan today...so let the battle continue..been 20 years..let it take another 70...:cool:

Taleexi;778638 wrote: yay dhuusadu xaar kugu noqon! waxan filaya thats to late for the khatumites as you call them in taleex o afarta gesood u kala cararay...20 years bu yidhi..awoga o afrika cidanka ugu cuslaa hayay ayanu ridnay..maxaaad ahayd 20 years ago saxib?? bax bax moyaaan...mantana somali o dhaan ba aragta waxad tihin..baaaaaaaacaaaaaac....

Just because you like to party doesnt mean khatumoo is viable...your diraaac as nice as it is doesnt automatically make you a government.

Xasuuqii shacbigi Somaliland horee xisaab tee ba ka danbaysay??? tiii 1991 lagu heshiyay so maha..oo Somaliland lagu dawaqay oo reer las canod na ay jogeeen...lets not kid ourselves..xasuuq mesha kamu dicin...70 thousand people were killed in Hargaisa, Burco, Erigavo, Berbera, etc.. yaaa la la xisabtamay...this is no genocide, protests happen and loss of life happens...its a fact. over dramatic people...Somaliland waa muqadas..the world does not function according to the dreams of Aaliyaah but Africa is divided along colonial lines not clan lines...

waa iska khatumoo kele saxib... waxba kama jiraan..iska riwayad.

Somalia;775676 wrote: Free SSC you less then 25 miles away bax bax lander whose stopping you?? ohhh i forgot Somaliland military might..hahaha... Anywhoo with all the bax bax aside...no genocide is going on in las canod..believe me if Somaliland wanted to commit genocide in las canod it would but this is a protest and it led to the death of civilians which is bad..but it happens in hargaisa on numerious occassion...just because you precieve Somaliland as a clan state doesnt mean a genocide is taking place...lool...

why are you guys hating on the man for..because he rejected khatumoo...a 4 year old with any sense knows khatumoo is a joke..from birth, to name to structure, to everything its not viable...What Samatar said was its better for Somaliland to be whole then further divided...i thought as unionists you people would agree with him considering its easier to put a state back together in two large pieces then 12 dozen pieces...logic right. These unionists are funny...all talk no brains or plan...kolba dinac u caraar...khatumooo......................awdaland..............khatumooooo......people just look at reality...with everything aside politically the underlying question is has Somaliland been to the benefit of its people?? The honoust answer is Yes... Somaliland has created peace between cities and peoples..they trade and has even extended this development and its cash eastward investing in las canod, building water infrastructure and hospitals something not even done under puntland or siad barres regime who never really cared about las canod till Somaliland got a hold of it...now its tolllaaaahiyooo waa ina lagu jihaaadaaa...give me a break...

^^^ like in every state...you got opposing views..some are majority some are minority..the pro somaliland demo were alot greater in number..and if some school kids want to protest its their right to...no biggy...??

^^^Im sure Somaliland soldiers in buhoodle and las canod are saying the same thing...hahahaah

crying about Guul Qaranimadda iyo Midnimada Somaaliyeed .... tolloooow yaaa Djibouti o yedhaaa..so somali maha..?? To believe in the 5 pointed star is to except Somaliland. If Djibouti is gone, if NFD is gone if Somali Galbed is gone then kiss the union between Somaliland and Somalia goodbye we have them all or we have none. Waa crocidle tears...they dont give a dam about Somali unity...lakin we called their bluff. hahaah :cool:

1 million dollars says he will not step foot in Somaliland... :cool: get your bank details ready.. hahahahaha...

True Somali's are the largest number of immigrants and under the geneva convention on the grounds of refugees Britain is legally obliged to except them and protect them..furthermore the majority dont work even though they use the welfare system and suck the state dry. the prisons are filled with Somali's and the irony is the U.K. cant even take these people back. There is no doubt that this conference is just another Khatumoo 21-22 conference for somali's no real objective or process and is hijacked by foreign countries and bodies. not to mention Cameron seriously needs a distraction from the economy and this European financial disaster.