Osman..Apoligies in disturbing you during your tea event with the easter bunny and santa on mars but as was excepted by all nations Somaliland is not concerned with the garowe princinples furthermore it will never get ratified as the entire south rejects it and somaliland don't care meaning all you have left is a piece of paper, a government held up by burundians, a term which will expire in a few months and villa somalia that gets bombed every day. Furthermore the pirate ville is small, weak and pathetic even more so these days then usual...and when the oil wet dreams are put to rest you'll become the official joke of the somali people...of which you already are for more then half..

These pirates are funny it seems dissident nation a blog by a kid who lives in his parents basement is the only news source they have. Even they even dispute the facts, Sool and Sanag is Somaliland. And now they realised that the small well isn't enough they want las canods oil hense why they dreaming Somaliland give to them.....never gonna happen pirates..loooool...end of the game.

These pirates are funny it seems dissident nation a blog by a kid who lives in his parents basement is the only news source they have. Even they even dispute the facts, Sool and Sanag is Somaliland. And now they realised that the small well isn't enough they want las canods oil hense why they dreaming Somaliland give to them.....never gonna happen pirates..loooool...end of the game.

Your propaganda doesn't sadden me...its that you would believe your own delusion. In regards to somaliland. Your own people signed somaliland as a collective even your beloved galayd and all the other tribes of somaliland therefore in terms of legality it has more legalitY and soverignty then anything you can muster. Furthermore somaliland isn't breaking away from anything as Somaliland and somalia were to different countries...Somaliland is older then Somalia. As for Somalia and unity liban I'm algeric to bulshxxt this isn't about somali unity..this is about clan to you because clearly your the only one claiming tribal borders which are not even yours therefore your attempt to say its about somali unity makes no sense. The reality is liban that your people shouldn't have signed the 1991 somaliland agreemenT if you didn't I Wouldn't blame you or argue against you but you did...therefore Somaliland will not stop because your people are so indisisive. You also have to remember Somaliland has been building its capacity for 20 years and before you know it khautmo like narnia will dispear into the real of fairy tales. As for the people we are and will be one and the same no one will attack but if attacked I pray the somaliland army teach all those who attack them a good lesson. Buhoodle has been quiet for a few months and inshallah they keep it peaceful...your on a sinking ship liban and the ship is call ss. Khatumo but luckly for you there's a bigger ship next to it with more people that is ready with lifeboats. SS. Somaliland is not far...

So even though your caqils and sultans Signed Somalilands indepedence and galayd was among them you find it hard to understand why the people of somaliland are trying to build a state of which all the signaturies lands are included. And you logically believe that even though you signed this and then broke the agreement which is illigal and unislamic that the solution lay in claiming sool, sanag and buhoodle even though everyone knows that we live together everywhere in all three of those areas....and instead of joining the country your clans signed to join in 1991 you instead claim tribal borders yet argue this will somehow create the somali unity you seek.... Am I missing something oR is this more headless chicken strategy from my brothers in buhoodle. Seriously guys...seriously. I think you been refugees for to long. Go to somaliland and see how your people are treated. Massacre you say??? I don't support children being imprisoned or the likes..and its possible mistakes may have happened but in all honousty this is not a tribal war, this is not a massacre or genoside...if somaliland wanted they could have wiped all of you out in 1991 but we agreed on statehood and let bygones be bygones. You guys are the only ones talking about clan....Sad walahi...seriously guys...fix up for the greater good of your people. If you focused and spent more time in building schools or hospitals your people would appreciate that more then khatumo because we all know saxibiyal khatumo dee wa iska khautmo..buhoodle ssc ba ku haysta...iska daba meel kele..

Walahi its sad and its clearly obvious you'd rather chase after fantasies then reality. I like how you call yourself khatumo but call Somaliland mamulka hargaisa as well looool....all the best to you and your delusions, enjoy your propaganda let's see how far a soldier who hails from buhoodle's defection gets you anywhere or educates your people...masakiin. I don't know whether to cry for you or laugh but as your brother ill cry for you.

From the U.K. Contingent Good luck and enjoy any news keep us updated regarding new ideas. Slap Mit Romney if U see him anywhere. Lol. What a bafoooooooooon.

Its amazing how you just keep posting I thought this was a forum I'm interested to hear a viable solution to the problem based on what I wrote earlier. Its more headless chicken actions.. We need concrete solutions. Yet you can't even comment on what I wrote earlier.

You know in reality..no one can deny the people of las canod and buhoodle were present when somaliland was established in 1991, even Galayd was there and agreed...why are my brother so indicisive. You sign an agreement with somaliland in 1991, then you sign one with the pirates in 1998, then in 2012 one with yourself even though its still split and some support somaliland, some puntland, some ssc and some khatumo.. Yet you blame somaliland. Saxibiyal as your brother the first question you should ask yourself is what have I done and where have I gone wrong. You have no agreed common line...its like a headless chicken approach. No one wants war, no one wants hardship, but you can not deny the truth that your caqils, sultans and even aqonyanahn were in burco and borama and agreed to somaliland. So why are you surprised then that somaliland is trying to build a state within the borders agreed and signed by all of us in 1991. Furthermore not only did you violate the agreement, you claiming the entire regions of Sanag and Sool which no one tribe has exclusive hold over... We live together in Sool and Sanag..so in all seriousness I try to advice and continue to advice but examine logic, you are your own worst enemy walalyal...in all seriousness. Just becuase we are different clans doesn't mean we can't live together and create a state together, we are closer to each other then anyone else..we live in cainabo 40 miles from las canod etc..yet instead of focusing on development, statehood, peace etc you to busy chasing after Galayd a man who signed Somalilands independence now khatumo . You want to see a real massacre a real state orchasterated holocaust visit Hargaisa graveyards and Burcos grave yards. All loss of life is not good...but we all know Somaliland is a state for all no one cares about tribe they care about state since were not going anywhere join and develop it makes security sense, business sense etc.

The site was poor unfortunately and during the london conference faroole ran away from the Somaliland president and coward under the president of djibouti..and waited till he got back to garowe for more hot air. Furthermore when it comes to the oil its been months and still I don't see anything, range and african oil have proven to be mickey mouse companies that play with stock prices. And it seems the pirates are the only ones to talk about qaadoo and maritial relations...things which have nothing to do with politics just more pirate delusions. After the political failures I see u have put all your bets on oil, I hope for your own sake it exists, I'm sure not with african oil or range. You guys seriously need to fix up...or it just might be the cultural difference between us..we don't talk about women or qaadoo in somaliland in that we differ...and we also have political and military balls as is obvious...and what I wrote is not satire its the truth hence why you think its such a big achievement that your head pirate is married to one.

burahadeer;806721 wrote: don't worry about KOW....wixiisu waa kaalay ila muran. lol @ kalaay ila muraan...saxib dadka Somaliland waaa isku mid inshallah we gonna show the somali race how its done....

K.O.W;806709 wrote: Lol @ International Law. I believe this "International Law" is the very same law that denied any recognition whatsoever to your Clan-State. Four days of Vacancy does not consitute to being a "Country". When British came, the area known as "British-Somaliland" was not a country of it's own before the British. and Somalia was a country before the italians...hahaha seriously are you for real?? anywhooo keep at it and keep telling yourself a state that controls the entire former British Somaliland from djibouti to the border or Somalia will be subserviant to you and burundians in mugdusho, thats the problems with unionists...they live in a parallel universe while accusing others of doing so...Even the peoples republic of china was denied recognition for 40 years... While Somaliland is building a state you been screaming...no your not, no your not...when the day comes...i would love to see the expression on your face..

K.O.W;806694 wrote: How? 4 days? You're telling me that 4 days of vacancy of Colonial Administration constitutes to "Independent Country"? lol So, who was the President of this country you speak of for the 4 days the British were not ruling? Was there a flag that flied above every town in the Former British-Somaliland Protectorate for 4 days, apart from the British flag? LOL Learn your history and International law then come on to a forum and debate in a civilised fashion who has unbiased views...instead of baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac all the time. As for our people we all somalilanders, we have been sharing a state before Somalia existed son..Somaliland is older then Somalia..so i rest my case.

Xaaji Xunjuf;806690 wrote: Hermet my brother the Garaad clan are a big part of Somaliland its not fair if hargeysa gets the capital 3 out of the 4 presidents of Somaliland were from burco and reer laascaanood and reer buhoodle only get deputy speaker iyo wasiirka dhirta iyo dooga. They deserve the capital of Somaliland sidaas bay dadka iyo dalku isku raacayaan. saxib you know me...nationalist through and through...qabil i dont care for...Hargaisa is to big anyways, burco is to crazy as much as i love them...las canod never been. Been to Borama, i like borama nice town, to close to Ethiopia and for security reasons i would oppose it similar to hargaisa. I always had Shieck on top of the mountains as a great capital...mix the population and let them miggle even more then normal in Hargaisa or any of the other towns...but las canod i really dont mind..

K.O.W;806684 wrote: Which world are you talking about? Mars? Jupiter? Venus? Because, I know the 3rd Planet from the Sun (Earth) has recognized that Somaliland is part of Somalia. K.O.W. keep at it mate...Slow but steady...your view is your view enjoy it. Somaliland was the first independent Somali country??? was it not??? i bet you would even argue against that right???

K.O.W;806680 wrote: Couldn't have said it better. Good Job Xaji Xunjuf! Somaliland is a clan state and needs to understand that Somalia's sovereignty is not negotiable. Unfortunately for you...the world disagrees, as later events will show, we will sit down as equal states..to finalize seperation... :cool:

Xaaji Xunjuf;806675 wrote: Perhaps we should move the Somaliand capital to laascaanood so that laascaanood can also enjoy some of the development of SL so that it can turn in a huge city horta meeshu biya badan ma leedahay yaa reer laascaanood ah? i think it has water underground...but enough for the town..nothing to big...but Somaliland should at least use the World Bank Money and develop the water infrstructure...Im ready to sacrfice Hargaisa's water for Las canods water...

The people of Sool have had enough of war, they need development: the least the government can do is provide more assistance and more development, the least its diaspora can do is organise and develop themselves to build up their region. Build factories, build infrstructure, build schools and join the competition between the regions. Awdal is being built by Awdal with minimal assistance from the government, Hargaisa, Saxil, Sanag, Togdher etc... the same its diaspora are all developing it... The Sool and Buhoodle diaspora are to busy killing their own people and listening to Cali Galayd.. Turn SSC into a gudi a development Gudi, raise money, funds, support, educate your people, build schools, hospitals, something tangible that would make a lasting impact surely in this sense you insure the long gevity of the people and quality of life.

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burahadeer;806152 wrote: dee ha u sheegin.Mid xagaa ha joogto,have a secret phone & a mail box.Sidee waaye,xariif noqo:D saxib..i dont have time for drama and headeches plus...plus one of a kind so no other required inshallah.. hahah...adigo luuqa lagalay telephonka yana lagugu qabinin.

burahadeer;806081 wrote: meesha soo eeg & you be surprised...yes lot poor people but also lot who live good,no starvation thou & no different from otha 3rd world countries,actually quite an accomplishment in light of what somalis went thru lately.Anyway great someone with billions earned honestly unlike stinking politicians stealing from the poor. Its funny how even if somaliland was dubai there are always people who would say otherwise...people who have alterior motives are funny really...just say mashallah and keep your mouth shut thats the decent thing to do. :cool:

burahadeer;806130 wrote: my nxt wife will be from borama. waar Bura...durtaba waxad gaday laba...saxib tayda haday igu maqli lahayd acudubilah...hordadaba kaman so tosi kari lahyn..hahah...nasib bad ledahay..

xiimaaya;806047 wrote: you are back to ur historical land size.. I think whats hysterical is the map hahaha...anywho no more anymosity between peoples..no need for hate man...We all somalilanders and there is no point of continueing mutually destroying each other..

Because somalis fail to distguish or blur the state with the tribe they also fail to create a structure the put the state as a neautral overseeing outside the realm of the anthropological stuggle of the tribe. Just look at somalias weak political structure its clan formulas and the tribal struggle for executive positions within it. It doesn't exist in any other state because Somalia has not yet learnt that the problem itself lay in the actual concept of the individual or in the case of the somalis tribes. Somaliland is the closest state to taming the fundemental problem of somali.statehood and their brothers can learn much although not perfect they tamed tribal societies even after local civil wars and national civil war by bringing the tribe or in this case the individual into the political process by creating a branch of government that creates checks and balances that brings an end to the societal or individual struggle against tribes even be it sub sub clan. By Doing this they tamed what othwr somalis have failed to tame with this said they then eleveted the state to above clan I.e multi party democracy meaning if someone wants to get into power he has to fight for votes from all tribes elevating the state into outside the tribal realm because power goverance rests in pleasing all not only that by creating strong courts and commissions you create checks and balances to make sure no exlpitation of power can accure even the president can get impeached if he goes against the naional interest. Furthermore although recent they are attempting to geese national identity instead of regional or tribal which only creates problems and leads to stage one backwards so in that you can see the formation of the blueprint from your brothers and the wider somali problems solution lay in copyin it

Because somalis fail to distguish or blur the state with the tribe they also fail to create a structure the put the state as a neautral overseeing outside the realm of the anthropological stuggle of the tribe. Just look at somalias weak political structure its clan formulas and the tribal struggle for executive positions within it. It doesn't exist in any other state because Somalia has not yet learnt that the problem itself lay in the actual concept of the individual or in the case of the somalis tribes. Somaliland is the closest state to taming the fundemental problem of somali.statehood and their brothers can learn much although not perfect they tamed tribal societies even after local civil wars and national civil war by bringing the tribe or in this case the individual into the political process by creating a branch of government that creates checks and balances that brings an end to the societal or individual struggle against tribes even be it sub sub clan. By Doing this they tamed what othwr somalis have failed to tame with this said they then eleveted the state to above clan I.e multi party democracy meaning if someone wants to get into power he has to fight for votes from all tribes elevating the state into outside the tribal realm because power goverance rests in pleasing all not only that by creating strong courts and commissions you create checks and balances to make sure no exlpitation of power can accure even the president can get impeached if he goes against the naional interest. Furthermore although recent they are attempting to geese national identity instead of regional or tribal which only creates problems and leads to stage one backwards so in that you can see the formation of the blueprint from your brothers and the wider somali problems solution lay in copyin it