saxib this is the ramifications of what happens when your entire state is based on propaganda...hence if this little pirates den has an adecuate security force why aint they even stationed in key areas that remain vital to the life line. a state based on duke and lots propaganda....hahaha...no state actually exists saxib...just people pretending to be a state. :cool:

Carafaat;798210 wrote: That "parliamentary democracy" didnt collapse without a reason Dr.osman. And you want a return to that period, while at the same time in combination with a Federal system that's is not in the benefit of no other region of Somalia. And may even lead to more division. Qandalawi, It's not about dissapointing individuals.But about a wide present Pirate mentality and the always present strategy of trying to establishe and maintain the clan hegemony that leads to destruction. Wax fahan. agreed its called d blockism...they infected withit hence why they always claiming land that they cant even set foot in..why the cling to the 4.5 falce system, why they always involved with clan issues, clan borders, and why the meet the president of pirateland instead of the president they confess is their president....its the same mentality and struggle for hegemony that created the imbalanced union between Somaliland and Somalia and under their uncle siad barre its the same struggle for hegemony that led to the carpet bombing of Somaliland cities and massacre of innocent civilians with their tax own tax dollars...i say point blank, you want Somalia to succeed you have to remove this cancer or neutralize it and remove any significance. This can only be achieved by creating two states Somaliland and Somalia, as two central states not federal. But will you understand nooooo...so please do continue...hahahah...:cool: We will finish the job and nueatralise this cancer for you...soon enough..as we have already limited its infection and pushed it back to a corner were they are struggling to get out of ....and in good time serious cemo-therapy will be needed in Somalia to remove the remains of the cancer...but we will leave that to our brothers in Southern Somalia.

Taleexi;797920 wrote: He made history of placing the misguided secession dogmatic ideology in the coffin. RIP. as long as the somaliland flag flys over las canod taleexi...keep your mouth shut cause as article 6 of the london conference states...Somaliland and Somalia.....did you read anything about khatumo there..hahaha... We have only breathed life..in the international context...and look forward to your child armies in buhoodle if they have the guts to come out...it is your khatumo that died of miscarriage after being born for a few days...WE STANDING AFTER 20 YEARS....

Abdul;797792 wrote: These are just pictures,where is the video?? abdul you cant dispute it even your African protected president Sheriff said President Silanyo gave a speech i know it must kill you though but i think its time you guys welcome Somaliland seeing its to the benefit of all including the people of buhoodle, for past 20 years we have become masters of war, therefore why the people dont want it, las canod and buhoodle is yet to even see anything, therefore i would say think about your children who are falling behind, khatumo and ssc are myths my friend as we know...they control central buhoodle at best...they have no real power, they actually add to the insecurity in your area, the death and destruction in your area. what is true is without peace nothing can be attained. therefore it is in your interest to be a Somalilander. dont think these pirates care about you they dont.

Xaaji Xunjuf;797651 wrote: Its sad Somalilanders could've been great uniters but Somalia never had a president or a leader from Somaliland. And i don't think Siilanyo can unite Somaliland with Somalia nor can the leaders of Somalia unite Somalia with Somaliland. What president silanyo can do though is make the people of Somaliland a proud nation and give them their right position on the world stage and mark my words he will be greater than tuur cigaal and rayaale soon you will see even siilaanyo's picture on the SL shilling and that will be the reality son. cigal was prime minister for a while before siad barre...:cool: but hey those days were so long ago...ancient history.

He will make history alright...as the first to return Somaliland to pre-1960 borders inshallah...unification will never happen... but its nice to know we are so badly needed...the brains of the somali's has been gone for 20 years and the carcus is slowly rotting away...

the man was a military man, he is a brilliant strategist and was the master mind of the islamic courts union, he gave it to sheriff as the face of brand to unite the mugdishso population. I doubt he is dead, they said he was dead before and he wasnt, he was recently declared to be the man in charge of the fight against the A.U. the man is a regular hudini he always comes back from the dead somehow...politically speaking...tachtician walahi...i respect him more then any southern politician.

article 6 clearly recognises Somaliland as different from the rest of Somalia and that both parties should discuss their futures...hahaha simple as..The world recognised two states, in an international context Somaliland can say I was a legal state in 1960 the union no longer exists, because of a referendum proved free and fair with 97% approval for renewed independence. :cool: and thats even if this tfg can survive and any viable authority in Somalia is even established which i doubt unfortunately. while the pirates continue with their wet dreams of 4.5, qabyalid and colonial borders it seems article six destroyed all over night.

Qaramada Midoobay Oo Kenya Magdhow Ka Siinaysa Khasaaraha Ka Soo Gaadhay Dagaalka Al-shabaab Iyo Madaxwaynaha Dalkaas Oo Sheegay In Dalka Soomaliya Fashilmay Nairobi (Ramaas) Feb 29,2012 – Qaramada Midoobay ayaa qorshaynaysa inay dawlada Kenya Magdhow ka siiso ciidamada kaga dhintay dagaalka ay ku jirto Kooxda xagjirka ah ee Al-shabaab iyo waliba gaadiidka iyo hubkii ay ku fulisay bilowgii hawlgalada gudaha Soomaliya. Qaramada midoobay ayaa koox xaqiiqo raadin ah u soo dirtay dalka Kenya, kuwaasi oo Magaaladda Nairobi ka bilaabay ururinta khasaaraha ciidamada Kenya ka soo gaadhay dagaalka Al-shabaab ee ka socda gudaha dalka Soomaliya. Kooxdan ayaa waxa ay Magaaladda Nairobi yimaadeen ka dib markii dawlada Kenya ay qaramada midoobay u dirtay liis ay ku taxday khasaaraha dagaalkaasi ku gaadhay iyo qalabka ay u baahan tahay, kuwaasi oo ay ka mid yihiin diyaaradaha qumaatiga u kaca, gaadiidka dagaalka iyo waliba magdhow laga siiyo ciidamada ka dhintay, kuwaasi oo qaramada midoobay lacag ahaan ku siinayso. Qalabkan Milatari ee dawlada Kenya ka dalbatay qaramada midoobay ayaa waxa lagu qalabaynayaa ciidamo gaar ah oo dawlada Kenya u dirayso dalka Soomaliya, kuwaasi oo la sheegay inay ku biiri doonaan ciidamada midowga Afrika ee Amisom. Wasiirka gaashaandhiga dawlada Kenya ayaa warbaahinta u sheegay inay qaramada midoobay u gudbisay liiska qalabka ay u baahan yihiin iyo waliba tirada askarta ka dhimatay ee ay doonayaan in magdhow laga siiyo, isaga oo sidoo kalena tilmaamay in golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay ay uga baahan yihiin inay fuliyaan waxayaabaha loo baahan yahay ee la xidhiidha hawlgalka ciidamada ku biiraya Amisom. Dhanka kale, Madaxwaynaha dalka Kenya Mwai Kibaki ayaa soo dhaweeyay in dib loogu eego hawlgalka mustaqbalka ee ciidamada Amisom ee gudaha Soomaliya “Kenya way soo dhaweyneysaa in dib loo eegay howlgallada Mustaqbalka ee AMISOM ee Soomaaliya” ayuu yidhi Madaxwaynaha Kenya, isaga oo tilmaamay in ciidamada Kenya aanay u socon inay qabsadaan Magaalada Kismaayo oo ay Al-shabaab ka taliso, balse ay tahay in bulshada caalamku go’aan ka gaadho “Kismaayo waa su'aal bulshada caalamka u taal inay go'aan ka gaadho, Kenya uma socoto inay hagaajiso dhibaatada Soomaaliya oo dhan maadaama oo uu yahay dal fashilnaa 20 sano” dhinaca kale, qaar ka mid ah qoysaska reer Kenya oo ay ka soo jeedaan askar kooxda Al-shabaab ka qabtay ciidamada Kenya ayaa dalbaday in loo soo daayo "Waxaan codsanaynaa in Yesse Mule lasoo daayo, waayo waa aabbe caruurtiisa u shaqeysan jiray," ayay yiraahdeen waalidka dhalay labadan ruux oo saxaafadda la hadlay, iyagoo sheegay in wiilkooda aanu shuqul ku lahayn arrimaha loo haysto.

Cambuulo iyo bun;797577 wrote: a stabile Somalia that creeps u out i know, 22 years for nothing what a waste if you say so..

Somalia;797069 wrote: All I see is a lot of name calling, illustrating the frustration the secessionist people had for the conference. This is my favourite bit Except we now know that it didn't happen, and you signed an agreement to house criminals WOOPTI DOO the best is yet to come...hahaha...:cool: hold on for it.

Abdul;797508 wrote: One is real recognized country and the other a province of Somalia. it must kill you so maha...still try to convince yourself...hahaha

Che -Guevara;797580 wrote: He answered some pointed questions and very honest in the Government's limitations. agreed it highlights the true capability of tfg...interesting. :cool:

if i can put the tfg into one sentence it would be "qorshaha ayu ku jiraa"...

Dr_Osman;797539 wrote: Saracen is only training our forces to be the best snipers and ground troopers in the nation. You know 1 marine takes out 20 rag-tags, our funding is coming from dubai!!! they trying to build up some anti-piracy forces, but even the UAE said the force has had little success...they are even considering whether they should continue with it as for snipers etc....allow me to laugh hahahahah...dream on dreamers. :cool:

A.U. ba ka saray saxib...TFG ayada la ilaliya ...:cool: even hope should be logical i dont see the logic of getting happy for the A.U. pushing back alshabab...furthermore alshabab dont need bases they everywhere.

indeeed...:cool: The man did us proud...

The economist recently also invisioned the end of putin of russia....so everything should be examined through logic...i think you guys probably know better in regards to the somalia situation then the economist. :cool:

Siad barre believed in the core concept you believe in today.. ...That is the same reason why you chase after tribal borders, that is why you chase after 4.5, that is why you see the prime minister instead of the president of Somalia in london...:cool: wan is garanyayna saxib...lets not kidd ourselves. In Somaliland its different as history testifies to WE ARE THE HOME OF NATIONALISM...seeing we united the somali nation in 1960, seeing Hargaisa was the headquarters for the invasion of Ethiopia and only Hargaisa and other towns in somaliland got bombed by Ethiopians. We gave up on Somalian nationalism when we realised the truth...i.e. Somalians like you aint nationalist as hard as you try to convince others you are. So you see...keep walking...we brought an end to your uncle siad, we bought an end to the somali state and we will keep marching till we achieve our objective A FULL REPUBLIC WITHIN THE BORDERS OF PRE-1960. continue your written didnt want to walk in on you guys...

burahadeer;797171 wrote: hahahaaaaaaaaaaa bro its called written hahahha.. even though Somaliland is the only democracy in the region, it has never invaded its naibours and lives in peace for the bulk of it recent history yet they argue the worst failed state in the world i.e. Somalia is more viable as a state, furthermore the man praises puntland a.k.a. pirateland even though it is plauged not only with insecurity, piracy, criminality, lack of democracy and division along sub sub clan lines, it also is militarily weak in comparison to somaliland and still struggles to move outside of garowe a village it attempts to convince other somalis as a city. hahahahahah....you gotta love these neo-siadists walahi dream and half no substative arguement or logic within them...everything is all qabil orientated even logic becomes blind to these people but thats what makes them easy pray for Somaliland and Somalilanders.

Carafaat;797057 wrote: reminds me of Duke's logic. Las canodna cagta ma digi karan...hahahah...wa riwayad walahi..hahaha

Xaaji Xunjuf;797011 wrote: Dr osman u seem a bit frustrated, today I know you want. To be like somaliland but you just don't have what it takes you don't have the genetics. And you're small clan fiefdom is 2 and a half region they only control. Two regions and a section of mudug north galkacyo the rest of galkacyo is shared between two other clan states. To be honest the kings are the weakest of them all they hardly border hostile clans. hahaha...:cool:

The Wailers‟ arguments against Somaliland have all the while been presented along clannish lines. They have acquired and perfected a self-defeating habit of labeling Somaliland with all sorts of tribal tribulations. They are fond of asserting, with unabated zest, that one-tribal chauvinism is the very foundation of Somaliland‟s existence. Somaliland, they would have us believe, is “a one-tribe secessionist entity”. That tribe is the source and perpetrators of all the troubles that are bedeviling Somalis everywhere. That tribe hates all other Somali tribes wherever they live in. That tribe is a Somalisdiid, i.e. rejectionists of Somali nationhood. All other tribes in Somaliland are under the yoke of armed subjugation and oppression at the hands of that damnable tribe. The Wailers‟ litany of tirades is endless. Calling a Spade a Spade Feb. 2012 Queenie and dumpty...we can easily say you fall within the caterogy of "Wailers" as described by the author of this paper..as you have nothing substantial to say or no argument or leg to stand on..... "khaaaaaaat"...is the best you can do, even though my uncle Ina Afdinle supplies your villages in bari Khat round the clock... 571..REMEMBER THAT...haha:cool:

^^^^ dum* and dumb*r :cool: haha..