Taleexi;799683 wrote: A prerequisite to send Somalia into the abyss: Deal with Khaatumo first. Saxib it exists only to you it doesnt exist to me...The people of Sool are multi tribal, the largest city in sool is caainabo and we know who lives there, the surrounding areas around buhoodle is shared domain...Somaliland has never favoured any one group as was clear from the ceel issue a few months back. Somaliland has created peace and some level of transparency and progress in las canod, we understand that you guys are lacking behind other regions in Somaliland and this is not because you are being marginalised even erigavo is the same. We have limited resources and you are still yet to embrace the Somalilander concept of do it yourself private enterprise. Stop looking at things through the dimension of clan...Taleexi saxib you and your people live freely and prosper through out somaliland. But with this SSC and khatumo business runta anu isu shegno saxib..walahi dhabta chirta waxay tahay...Somalia waax ka so socda ma jirto, walaa federalism, walaa coonfederation baa Somalia baad badin kara...your children need education, they need to live decent lives, the people of borama, hargaisa, berbera,burco, erigavo they all have peace, limited development that is self sustained, they have security because Somaliland works together. The literacy rate across Somaliland is at 78%. I argue saxib that khatumo is bad for you, for your people. It has brought nothing but war, problems and were will you go when your own naighbour hates you...la tag khatumo erigavo saxib..lets see what they say..or hawdka... lets think logically...forget qabil, the world operates in accordance with international law. We were Somaliland we united with Somalia. Therefore in international law we have the same soverignty..and this is what the conclusion will be through peaceful dialouge or through another hell on earth. Me and you...Hermet and Taleexi..share more in common then the pirates or mugdisho with all do respect. because we been living together for hundreds of years, we have the same dialect, the same custom to the very last detail even more so then the pirates...and there has always been that mutual respect we made collective decisions together for the betterment of our people. We made the decision to form Somaliland in 1991 together with our brothers in Borama...look at us, look at Borama and look at you today saxib...What went wrong is you strayed away from your true brethren and entered the abyss known as Somalia and the pirates den. With Somalia comes problems walal...because these pirates they aint serious about statehood walahi they are interested in hegemony and siadism...and Somaliland will never except this because it was first victim to it in 1960 and continued to be a victim of it since 1991. Furthermore although all was forgiven and forgotten we lost to many people to take khatumo seriously or somalia for that matter. So with war, your people lose out, your children lose out on stability, education, literacy destroying an entire generation. You lose your peace and instability becomes the norm leading to health and social problems. You lose your morale because walal lets be honoust, if Somaliland wanted to it could totally destroy buhoodle in a few days and all its inhabitants but they cant do that...because daaqan kooda maha. But walahi if you take this khatumo stuff seriously...i feel for you. Me a resident of hargaisa voted for Dahir Riyale kahin for every election. I dont care what tribe he is...i voted for him because he was a good president, he made the country a democracy and built a strong army. If any resident of las canod came forward and was credible i am sure Somalilanders would vote for him...ask your man xaabsadee or caadani to put themselves forward and i will show you the spirit of the LANDER...

Like it was stated in 1991 when all the tribes of Somaliland signed the document: "We are not a tribal state, we are all one and the same, we share a common destiny, shared a common history and shall share a common future"...."We will leave everything in the past and move on"....... Somaliland was declared thereafter.....yaaa dadkan waax u shegaaa....:cool: ALL THE THE PEOPLE OF SOMALILAND AND ITS CLANS STAND TOGETHER...... Somaliland was founded in Borama and Burco...no one has claim over it...as is clear from its democratic system of governance...tell that to the pirates who are yet to offer the mythical criminal enterprise top job to a resident of las canod.... :cool:

Oodweyne;799673 wrote: Few things are in-order in here: 1- this Buur-Madow fellow is persona non-grata in Somaliland. 2- He is out of his depth in talking about some elders coming to Mogadishu. For, that is basically lies on his part. 3- Again, his is whistling passed his own nonsense when he talked about the said talks between Somalia and Somaliand being analogous to the sort of talks that will herald some kind of re-union. For, he knows (or at least he should know) that is not in the cards. 4- And, the last point is that, he is basically trying to be relevant in the larger sense of the Somali scene; since, his political cards (or even traditional respect) has ended withing Somaliland scene. Consequently, if you understand these points; then, you will know where the likes of this man is coming from. you would think so...but understand the concept of siadism...they dont care about the method its the overall conclusion they focus on...they are trying to persuade people i.e. the reader that this man is significant because of their badly desired dream of unification.....even though they all know Somaliland would rather wage another war that would seep Somalia into the abyss of an even greater hell then unite.

If only peace and statehood and legitimacy came on the back of a Boeing 747 :cool:

Hiiraan Online Ahmed Abdisamad Tuesday, March 06, 2012 An Alshabaab attack on Burundian troops in Mogadishu leaves one soldier dead and another wounded in Daynile district of Mogadishu. In a statement AMISOM troops say the attacked soldiers were on a petrol to dismantle explosives in parts of the city before they were shot by Alshabab snipers in a distance. AMISOM commander Fred Mugisha condemned the attack saying it will not hinder from them to carry out their duties. “We will continue our fight against terrorists, their aim is to harm the civilian population, we encourage Somalis to inform us if they notice such acts”.Said Mugisha. “We send our condolences to family of the deceased soldier, he was in a mission to stabilize Somalia, we will never forget him”. He added. Although Somali government troops and AMISOM forces pushed out Alshabaab from Mogadishu, Alshabaab still carry out attacks in the city.

Written by: Pambazuka News March 5, 2012 By Mohamud M. Uluso The communiqué of the recent conference on Somalia, dominated by the International Contact Group (ICG) and the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia, fell far short of expectations. The promised new approach to tackle the root causes of insecurity and lack of functional government over the last 20 years did not materialise. The communiqué listed operational tasks before a national polity capable of pursuing the interests of the Somali people is in place. This means that south-central Somalia became subject to the alien paradigm of Prof Stephen D. Krasner, who in his paper titled ‘Troubled societies, outlaw states and gradations of sovereignty’ argued that alternative institutional arrangements, such as trusteeship and shared sovereignty, must be legitimised if international threats are to be reduced and the prospects for individuals in troubled societies improved. This view seems operationalised through the New Deal of Engagement with Fragile States adopted by the Conference. In blatant contradiction to the statement that ‘decisions on Somalia’s future rest with the Somali people’, which is true, the London conference decided for Somalia and stripped Somalia of its indivisibility, sovereignty and polity. The participation in the conference by several delegations from Somalia and the absence of a national leader who represents the voice of Somalia did undercut Somalia’s common cause. The invitation of the ousted Speaker Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan under Ethiopian pressure was also a snub to a large segment of the Somali population and show of Ethiopia’s veto power over Somalia. The Communiqué, released before the conference took place, failed to take into consideration most of the suggestions made by members of the Somali communities, of the opinions of many international leaders like Mary Robinson, who emphasised the humanitarian consideration over military actions, and President Ismail Omar Ghelle, who strongly advocated for the top priority of funding Somali forces over AMISOM forces. With political mastery, to deflect any criticism from the humanitarian activists, the UK addressed AMISOM funding outside the conference. On 22 February, it pushed through the UN Security Council a resolution that increased AMISOM forces from 12,000 to 17,731 with an annual budget of $ 550-million. The communiqué ignored a reaffirmation of the territorial integrity, sovereignty and unity of Somalia. Also, it remained silent about the illegal fishing and dumping of toxic waste off the Somali coast, the indiscriminate shelling and killing of civilians by UN supported forces and the frequent Ethiopian military incursions into Somalia. Out of the 26 paragraphs of the communiqué, only seven paragraphs contain new information. The important tasks spelled out in these paragraphs are the following: 1. Endorsement of the unpopular UNPOS political process based on making a new constitution in the midst of civil war, regional secessions, social distrust and foreign interventions. The constituencies of the new constitution are not defined. The government of Switzerland is the major backer of the new federal constitution. This is unprecedented political misjudgment. 2. The end of the Transitional Federal Institutions by 20 August 2012. The communiqué leaves out what will follow but the list of activities detailed in it foretells a standby arrangement. 3. The introduction of a parallel Somali political process at the national and local levels. It is not clear what the relationship is between these two parallel processes. 4. The establishment of a New Stability Fund. Local areas will be supported based on the new deal for engagement with fragile states recently adopted in Busan and on the stabilisation strategies prepared by both IGAD and TFG. 5. The confirmation that Somaliland is not part of Somalia or of the TFG. On 23 February 2012, Somalia ceased to exist internationally. Over the next three years, Somaliland will receive directly from the UK about £105 million for promoting prosperity, tackling poverty and consolidating progress on stability and democracy. 6. The adherence to shady agreements like the Djibouti Agreement, Kampala Accord, Roadmap and Garowe principles I and II. These agreements violate the Transitional Federal Charter and obstruct genuine political process. 7. The stablishment of a Joint Financial Management Board (JFMB) in conflict with the Transitional Federal Charter and any national Constitution. JFMB reinforces the lack of transparency and accountability because board members are foreigners. International and domestic resources are regulated by different rules and principles. The French Republic, United Kingdom, European Union and the World Bank are the initial members of JFMB. The President, the Prime Minister and the Minister of Finance of the TFG will initially represent the TFG on the JFMB. This arrangement violates the Somali constitution and domestic laws. JFMB will usurp the establishment of the offices of the Ministry of Finance, Accountant General, Central Bank and Auditor General. JFMB operates only in south-central Somalia. A functional government can fight corruption. 8. A commitment to support the Regional Maritime Capacity Building Initiatives. Somalis are not aware of any of these initiatives developed and funded for European maritime security. 9. The establishment of a Regional Anti Piracy prosecutions and intelligence coordination centre in the Seychelles for Somali citizens. From this plan transpires the time-span assumed for the continuation of the Somali crisis. 10. The implementation of the Financial Action Tasks Force’s recommendations on Combating Money Laundering and the Financing of Terrorism. Without having a responsible, functional Somali government in place, this decision could endanger the lives of millions of Somalis for suspicion or precautious justifications. 11. Collaboration with the Global Counter Terrorism Forum and other international and regional bodies. 12. The implementation of Mogadishu Recovery and Stabilization plan. This is a much-needed plan but it could be used against national needs and goals. 13. The mplementation of the Djibouti Code of Conduct and Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Somalia as the most failed state in the world lacks the authority and capacity to implement this responsibility. 14. The Establishment of a ‘Core Group of Engaged Countries’ to drive progress in support of UN, AU and IGAD efforts. Some of the unanticipated issues in the communiqué are the pre-concluded anti-piracy agreement between the UK, Seychelles and Somaliland, the revival of the EEZ issue overwhelmingly rejected by the federal parliament, the quick approval of the increase of the AMISOM forces before the conference, the concession for the secession of Somaliland and the formation of the core group of engaged countries responsible on Somalia in the foreseeable future. The Somali people are oblivious to the substance and meaning of the plans and programs decided on their behalf by the international community and written in English. The wide information gap and the gap between the needs and interests of the international community and the Somali people will erode public confidence and support critically needed as a precondition for Somalia’s peace and stability. Somalia’s socio-political problems, culture and experience are significantly different from many failed states. Yet it shares with them the fundamental need for governance. My expectation from the London Conference was a focus on strategic measures to rebuild Somalia’s failed state at national and local levels throughout Somalia on the basis of a new approach which encompasses the following four points: 1. A change in the current failed strategy of IGAD/UNPOS with its attendant constructs like the Kampala Accord, Djibouti Agreement, the Roadmap, Garowe Principles, and Addis Ababa Agreement between Ahlu Sunna Wal Jama and the TFG. 2. A call for the appointment by the Security Council of a powerful, credible international leader with a transparent political agenda for state building in Somalia. 3. A call for a Somali National Accord which deals with reconciliation, peace and state formation in Somalia, as the mandate of the Transitional Federal Institutions must end on 20 August 2012. 4. A pledge for the disbursement of at least 10 billion dollars in the next four years, specifically for state building. Humanitarian assistance will decrease as peace and hope expands. Instead, divided Somalia enters another era beyond its control. Nevertheless, there is always hope for a better future. Mohamud M Uluso can be contact through mohamuduluso(at)gmail.com

the warlords seem to be placing themselves at the for front again...his real intention is to build a base to re-establish control in some area of mugdisho...hahaha....what works is money their isnt a national army he understands that..

hahahaha...desperate times duke....dont worry its about to get a whole lot better son. For me anyways..:cool:

We using old killing grounds....to build maternity hospitals.....:cool:

dam you Somaliland tv and hctv.. The neo-siadist across the world...i think they have thrown in the white towel walahi....hahah...dawoo. o ka naax...this was back in 2007...imagine what the country looks like in 2012....

FreshPrince;799188 wrote: SNM militia were welcomed by local militia in 2007 in Laascaanood, Yagoori, Gumaays. In 2011, they tried to force their way into Buuhoodle and were defeated, humiliated. A year later, they tried 4 times to try and capture Buuhoodle and once again defeated. 30 Khaatumo soldiers in Buuhoodle defeated 3,000-4,000 SNM militia in January 2012. heye if you say so...and the Somaliland flag over las canod...was put there by your finance minister Saado cali as well right. saxib, Somaliland isnt going to kill its own people...hense why all of Sool has the somaliland flag over it and its peaceful...the only town seems to be buhoodle, Somaliland aint ******, were not gonna do a siad barre on you....haha.. We just let things die out naturally, promote peace, give some money...in time things will change its not like buhoodle is going anywhere....but im glad the situation is peaceful and calm alxamdulilah... enjoy...:cool: i like how you building up your morale though its good... But see there is something called reality.. and reality dictates buhoodle a village of 15,000 people is not a regional authority. so, i wont even comment on khatumo stuff anymore seeing walahi i cant even take it seriously...its done and dusted. knock yourself out.

A_Khadar;799142 wrote: Hermet, Whenever I see your comments and posts, this gentlment comes to my mind.... for an old man...he still has spirit...raaageni walahi...hahaha... its funny how the siadists when they have lost everything can only scream EDITED, OR MAKE FUN....You have to understand Somaliland humour in regards to what the guy is saying but...you aint somalilander so im not surprised you dont understand. When the guy says take me home walahi....i know what he means....

Boondheere;799122 wrote: you gott all wrong sxb, SNM was defeated tottaly 1988. siyad bare army did not even needed to fight Snm a year after 1988. forexample 1989 there was no singel town in northern somalia today know as Somaliland hands of SNM rebells. SNM did not captured singel town from siyad bare. Siyad barre was defeated bye USC. and its was USC who won over siyaad bare goverment and after goverment collapsed 26 janaury 1991 after that SNM entered cities like burco and hargeysa berbera. before that SNM was tottaly out. I think your partially deaf and blind my friend...the BBC and the entire population of Somaliland can not be wrong...but if you want to try to convince yourself of what your dad or uncle told you then by all means go for it...i think you didnt watch the video i think thats all the evidence we need. Boondhere you sure you aint related to the former Somali British ambasador who said "the entire north was peaceful" hahahaha...

Xaaji Xunjuf;799182 wrote: Great stuff nice pics great stuff, nice pics.....

uchi;799097 wrote: this topic smells of SomaliNet, can you delete your account here & head there please~ You havent give us one logical reason why we should...or are you to ashamed to show somali's history......we shall watch it repeatedly and i promise you i will re-post it as well...inshallah.

faarah22;799095 wrote: i thought your were talking about USC !. STOP the revisionism hermet, we know who brought the regime to it's knees. It was under the SNM that the bulk of its weapons came from because we new to destroy the regime they had to be thrown out of mugdisho and it was to far...so you see neo-siadist the people of Somaliland and the rightful owners of Somalia the people of mugdisho are brothers...we fought together...hence why your uncle fled to nigeria to have his gelato and ravioli...hahah

Its the same with Kosovo's Serb minority...they also think they part of Serbia...but thanks to international law...all that counts are colonial borders and legal agreements...:cool: but your people wouldnt know anything about international law would you...khatumo is khatumo..saado cali can have a million parties in u.s.a it doesnt matter....i hope they have a good time.

kingofkings;799086 wrote: reer buuhoodle proved your enclave is weak. how are you a threat to others is beyond me. reer buhoodle are somalilander and as clear buhoodle is at peace again... Tell your pirates to stop running away from Somaliland forces in las canod, if reer buhoodle is stronger, and your pirates keep running away from Somaliland soldiers in las canod what does that say about the pirates den aka bax bax land. hahaha...

Aparently as a refugee in Nigeria, he said he was there on holiday and that no war was actually taking place......hahahah... "tortalini,ravioli, mario, ma ma mia"....:cool: I love this man and his followers, weak and funny...

for all those pirates and residents of the narnian kingdom of khatumo...how can you fight Somaliland today as a state...when they destroyed your uncle siad barre as a force of 3000...dream on dreamers....this little state that has succeded against all odds...will fulfil what God destined for it...GREATNESS....:cool:

Duufaan;797938 wrote: NG Khaatumo is in a holly mission and will not rest until peace and calm stored. Khaatumo is not negotiating. There is nothing to negotiate here. Osman Hasan alone destroy the somaliland forum group. Somali land Forum which for 21 years begging, including churches are out of business. Soon somaliland will be out of business too, going back to modisho unwillingly. Dufaaan...i look forward to meeting the forces of saado cali on the battle field...apoligies..khatumoites i meant...buhoodle doesnt constitute mamul gobleed...and Somaliland aint negotiating on its land and remember even South Sudan and Kosovo have minorities that opposed their independence meaning you dont count saxib...

Somalia;797911 wrote: Keep trying to convince yourself of that when you go to sleep every night. History is written in stone and it shows that Puntlanders can make things happen unlike any other. Who can doubt Puntland wouldn't be independent if it sought to do so. Carafaat said it like it was, hire PLers to help you. FYI, Puntlanders live in more land than the secessionists so I wouldn't call it small I dont call the garowe bosaso corridor more land...wake up and smell the coffee..you cant set foot in most of sanag and all of sool of which you claim...so stop dreaming...and except the reality...this mini pirate criminal state you have is a chinese replica of Somaliland...cheap my friend a cheap copy indeed.

kingofkings;799041 wrote: what do you mean "beautiful beaches"? Are you blind or something. The thread covers the coast of Jariiban and unless i'm mistaken and i'm not, there's only one beach and that's that coast of Jariiban. so, it doesn't take one to figure the vulgar intentions of you and the other clown the meaning behind your euphemism choice of "beautiful beaches". take a deep breathe.....and now count to 10. all the pictures in the world of militia sitting on their behinds...have not changed the fact that the bari region is still the hub of pirates and still has pirate hijackings happening regularly...now one has to ask himself therefore do these militia even get off their behinds and try...or do they as we are all to aware of in Sool run away when the first bullet is fired. This is obviously in comparison to Somaliland which has next to no piracy of its coast...:cool: