^^^^^^^^^ lol

PL :cool:

Privatizing War Some critics view the role played by Mr. Rouget and other contractors as a troubling trend: relying on private companies to fight the battles that nations have no stomach for. Some American Congressional officials investigating the money being spent for operations in Somalia said that opaque arrangements like those for Bancroft — where money is passed through foreign governments — made it difficult to properly track how the funds were spent. It also makes it harder for American officials to monitor who is being hired for the Somalia mission. In Bancroft’s case, some trainers are veterans of Africa’s bush wars who sometimes use aliases in the countries where they fought. Mr. Rouget, for example, used the name Colonel Sanders. He denies that he is a mercenary, and said that his conviction in a South African court was “political,” more a “regulatory infraction” than a crime. He added that the French government, which sent peacekeeping troops to Ivory Coast, was well aware of his activities there. Mr. Stock, Bancroft’s president, also flatly rejects the idea that his employees are mercenaries, insisting that the trainers do not participate in direct combat with Shabab fighters and are supported by legitimate governments. “Mercenary activity is antithetical to the fundamental purposes for which Bancroft exists,” he said, adding that the company “does not engage in covert, clandestine or otherwise secret activities.” He did say, though, that there is only a small pool of people Bancroft can hire who have experience fighting in African wars. In recent years, according to a United Nations report, many companies have waded into Somalia’s chaos with contracts to protect Somali politicians, train African troops and build a combat force to battle armed Somali pirates. The report provides new details about an operation by the South African firm Saracen International to train a 1,000-member antipiracy militia for the government of Puntland, a semiautonomous region in northern Somalia, effectively creating “the best-equipped indigenous military force anywhere in Somalia.” Using shell companies, some of which the United Nations report links to Erik Prince, who founded the Blackwater Worldwide security company, Saracen secretly shipped military equipment — which the report says violated an arms embargo — into northern Somalia on cargo planes leaving from Uganda and the United Arab Emirates. Several American officials have said that the Emirates, concerned about the piracy epidemic, have been secretly financing the Saracen operation. Aid From the Pentagon The Pentagon has recently told Congress that it plans to send nearly $45 million worth of military equipment to bolster the Ugandan and Burundian troops. The arms package includes transport trucks, body armor, night vision goggles and even four small drone aircraft that the African troops can use to spy on Shabab positions. Unlike regular Somali government troops, the C.I.A.-trained Somali commandos are outfitted with new weapons and flak jackets, and are given sunglasses and ski masks to conceal their identities. They are part of the Somali National Security Agency — an intelligence organization financed largely by the C.I.A. — which answers to Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government. Many in Mogadishu, though, believe that the Somali intelligence service is building a power base independent of the weak government. One Somali official, speaking only on the condition of anonymity, said that the spy service was becoming a “government within a government.” “No one, not even the president, knows what the N.S.A. is doing,” he said. “The Americans are creating a monster.” The C.I.A. Plays a Role The C.I.A. has also occasionally joined Somali operatives in interrogating prisoners, including Ahmed Abdullahi Hassan, a Kenyan arrested in Nairobi in 2009 on an American intelligence tip and handed over to Somalia by the Kenyans. The C.I.A. operations in Somalia were first reported last month by the magazine The Nation. An American official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of restrictions against discussing relationships with foreign intelligence services, said that agency officers had questioned Mr. Hassan in a Somali prison under strict interrogation rules. “The host country must give credible assurances that suspects will be treated humanely,” the official said, and intelligence officials “must be convinced that the individual in custody has time-sensitive information about terrorist operations targeting U.S. interests.” A C.I.A. spokeswoman said that the spy agency was not holding suspects in secret American prisons, as it did in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. “The C.I.A. does not run prisons in Somalia or anywhere else, period,” said the spokeswoman, Marie Harf. “The C.I.A.’s detention and interrogation program ended over two and a half years ago.” In Washington, American officials said debates were under way about just how much the United States should rely on clandestine militia training and armed drone strikes to fight the Shabab. Over the past year, the American Embassy in Nairobi, according to one American official, has become a hive of military and intelligence operatives who are “chomping at the bit” to escalate operations in Somalia. But Mr. Carson, the State Department official, has opposed the drone strikes because of the risk of turning more Somalis toward the Shabab, according to several officials. In a telephone interview, he played down any bureaucratic disagreements and rejected criticism that America’s approach toward Somalia had been ad hoc. It is a country with historically difficult problems, he said, and the American support to the African peacekeepers has helped beat back the Shabab’s forces. And as for the rest of southern Somalia, still firmly in the Shabab’s hands? “One step at a time, he said. “One step at a time.” Mr. Stock, Bancroft’s president, said that bickering in Washington about how to contain the Shabab threat had made the American government even more dependent on companies like his. As he put it, “We’re the only game in town.”

Peacedoon;817810 wrote: Yes they are on the run from powerful african countries. A certain clan x in that region of pirateland gave them safe haven. How do u want to defeat them when you cant tame the ssc or recapture laascaanood? U are talking as superpower , but in truth u are harmless cat U make it seem as if tfg and ahlu sun defeated terrorists. MOGADISHU, Somalia — Richard Rouget, a gun for hire over two decades of bloody African conflict, is the unlikely face of the American campaign against militants in Somalia. A husky former French Army officer, Mr. Rouget, 51, commanded a group of foreign fighters during Ivory Coast’s civil war in 2003, was convicted by a South African court of selling his military services and did a stint in the presidential guard of the Comoros Islands, an archipelago plagued by political tumult and coup attempts. Now Mr. Rouget works for Bancroft Global Development, an American private security company that the State Department has indirectly financed to train African troops who have fought a pitched urban battle in the ruins of this city against the Shabab, the Somali militant group allied with Al Qaeda. The company plays a vital part in the conflict now raging inside Somalia, a country that has been effectively ungoverned and mired in chaos for years. The fight against the Shabab, a group that United States officials fear could someday carry out strikes against the West, has mostly been outsourced to African soldiers and private companies out of reluctance to send American troops back into a country they hastily exited nearly two decades ago. “We do not want an American footprint or boot on the ground,” said Johnnie Carson, the Obama administration’s top State Department official for Africa. A visible United States military presence would be provocative, he said, partly because of Somalia’s history as a graveyard for American missions — including the “Black Hawk Down” episode in 1993, when Somali militiamen killed 18 American service members. Still, over the past year, the United States has quietly stepped up operations inside Somalia, American officials acknowledge. The Central Intelligence Agency, which largely finances the country’s spy agency, has covertly trained Somali intelligence operatives, helped build a large base at Mogadishu’s airport — Somalis call it “the Pink House” for the reddish hue of its buildings or “Guantánamo” for its ties to the United States — and carried out joint interrogations of suspected terrorists with their counterparts in a ramshackle Somali prison. The Pentagon has turned to strikes by armed drone aircraft to kill Shabab militants and recently approved $45 million in arms shipments to African troops fighting in Somalia. But this is a piecemeal approach that many American officials believe will not be enough to suppress the Shabab over the long run. In interviews, more than a dozen current and former United States officials and experts described an overall American strategy in Somalia that has been troubled by a lack of focus and internal battles over the past decade. While the United States has significantly stepped up clandestine operations in Pakistan and Yemen, American officials are deeply worried about Somalia but cannot agree on the risks versus the rewards of escalating military strikes here. “I think that neither the international community in general nor the U.S. government in particular really knows what to do with the failure of the political process in Somalia,” said J. Peter Pham, director of the Africa program at the Atlantic Council, a Washington research institution. For months, officials said, the State Department has been at odds with some military and intelligence officials about whether striking sites suspected of being militant camps in Somalia’s southern territories or carrying out American commando raids to kill militant leaders would significantly weaken the Shabab — or instead bolster its ranks by allowing the group to present itself as the underdog against a foreign power. Lauren Ploch, an East Africa expert at the Congressional Research Service, said that the Obama administration was confronted with many of the same problems that had vexed its predecessors — “balancing the risks of an on-the-ground presence” against the risks of using “third parties” to carry out the American strategy in Somalia. Teaching Fighting Skills The Shabab has already shown its ability to strike beyond Somalia, killing dozens of Ugandans last summer in a suicide attack that many believe was a reprisal for the Ugandan government’s decision to send troops to Somalia. Now, though, thanks in part to Bancroft, the private security company, the militants have been forced into retreat. Several United Nations and African Union officials credit the work of Bancroft with improving the fighting skills of the African troops in Somalia, who this past weekend forced Shabab militants to withdraw from Mogadishu, the capital, for the first time in years. Like other security companies in Somalia, Bancroft has thrived as a proxy of sorts for the American government. Based in a mansion along Embassy Row in Washington, Bancroft is a nonprofit enterprise run by Michael Stock, a 34-year-old Virginia native who founded the company not long after graduating from Princeton in 1999. He used some of his family’s banking fortune to set up Bancroft as a small land-mine clearing operation. In recent years, the company has expanded its mission in Somalia and now runs one of the only fortified camps in Mogadishu — a warren of prefabricated buildings rimmed with sand bags a stone’s throw from the city’s decrepit, seaside airport. The Bancroft camp operates as a spartan hotel for visiting aid workers, diplomats and journalists. But the company’s real income has come from the United States government, albeit circuitously. The governments of Uganda and Burundi pay Bancroft millions of dollars to train their soldiers for counterinsurgency missions in Somalia under an African Union banner, money that the State Department then reimburses to the two African nations. Since 2010, Bancroft has collected about $7 million through this arrangement. Both American and United Nations officials said that Bancroft’s team in Mogadishu — a mixture of about 40 former South African, French and Scandinavian soldiers who call themselves “mentors” — has steadily improved the skills of the African troops and cut down on civilian casualties by persuading the troops to stop lobbing artillery shells into crowded parts of Mogadishu. One Western consultant who works with the African Union credits Bancroft with helping “turn a bush army into an urban fighting force.” The advisers typically work from the front lines — showing the troops how to build sniper pits or smash holes in walls to move between houses. “Urban fighting is a war of attrition, you nibble, nibble, nibble,” said Mr. Rouget, the Bancroft contractor. Last year, he was wounded in Mogadishu when a piece of shrapnel from a Shabab rocket explosion sliced through his thigh. Still, he seems to thoroughly enjoy his work. “Give me some technicals” — a term for heavily armed pickup trucks — “and some savages and I’m happy,” he joked.

Peacedoon;817807 wrote: Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk he though shabaab fought only tfg and ahlusun. In that case there would be no tfg and ahlusun now. laugh or no laugh, reality on the ground is that terrorists are being defeated. but i'm happy that your happy that they are on the run.

Mukulaalow;817804 wrote: they are fighting 5 nations in the south (uganda, burundi, kenya, ethiopia and tfg), does puntland have that capacity, NO. that is why you need all the help you can get. there is a wise proverb which says "never under estimate your enemy". PL knows the enemy, its the rest of somalia that failed to heed PL's warnings. i believe PL will put them in their place. fadlan know this, the best time to hunt and kill terrorists are when they are on the run. it's that simple. as for your concern, thanks but no thanks. PL can defeat their internal and external enemies.

Mukulaalow;817802 wrote: You shoud've thanked him for his concern. I believe Puntland needs all help it can to tackle shabab, these morons are no match for 1992 Alittihad militias, they are stronger, wealthier, battle hardened and have some sympathizers in Puntland. plus the Puntland clans are not as united as they were those days. mise waa beenteey?. if its true as to what you are saying, then, why are they losing in the south. fadlan, don't make a small helpless cat into a lion.

^^^^^^^^ like they could.

Peacedoon;817799 wrote: Sharif should focus on liberating Jowhar first. Forget Butulan, its not like good people will be missed when shabab captures them.

Mukulaalow;817793 wrote: waryaa Kinkong ka xishoo madaxweynahaaga. i said no offense, but let's be honest for a second. what will he contribute to PL fighting crazy people hell bent on war and displacement. was he not a part of the problem, before he became a part of the "solution". mr. cat, calling the president names is not a crime.

no offense, but PL does not need assistance from a former terrorists. if anything, PL has proven terrorists and terrorist sympathizers have no place in PL.

Peacedoon;817785 wrote: We should keep in mind that Butuland has been several times defeated by the people of West Puntland State, the Maakhiris and Sland. There is no way they can overcome a terrorist network which is fighting the second largest army in Africa, Amisom, Kenyan waterboys. U make no chance. Garowe will be captured within 6 months , faroole flee. That is without urgent intervention from the real ruler of Butuland King Zenawi al Tigraayi. three words, PL Defense Force

Garoowe (APL): Magaalada Garoowe ee Caasimada Puntland ayaa mudooyinkii ugu dambeeyay horumar la taaban karo ka samaysay dhismayaasha iyo wadooyinka Xaafadaha aada, kadib dadaalo badan oo dawladu ay ku bixisay ka dhaadhicin bulshada ee ka qaybqaadashada horumarinta deegaanka iyo hirgalinta qorsha Town-plan-ka Magaalada. Magaalada waxaa ka hirgalay dhismayaal aad u qurux badan oo isugu jira Hotelo, goobo ganacsi iyo guryo caadi oo ka mid ah deegaanka qoysasku ay ku nool yihiin. Hadaba habeenimadii xalay ahayd waxaa magaalada garoowe ka dhacday xaflad balaaran oo lagu furayay Hotel Casub oo lagu magacaabay RAYAAN PARK HOTEL oo ku soo biiray Hoteelada ugu quruxda badan ee magaalada laga hirgaliyay. Munaasabadii f uritaanka Hotelkan waxaa ka soo qaybgalay Wasiiro,Xildhibaano,Isimo,Ganacsato & Dadweyne aad u fara badan . Ayadaha Qur,aanka Kariimka ah kdin waxaa Hadalka qaatay Agaasimaha Rayaan Park Hotel C/qaadir Axmed Warsame waxaana uu ugu horeyn u mahadceliyey kazoo qaybgalayaasha Xafladda furitaanka Hoteelka,waxaana uu sheegay in hotelka hirgalintiisa ay ku baxday dhaqaale fara badan ayna ahmiyada mulkiilayaashu ahayd sidii ay u qancin lahaayeen Macaamiisha hotelkan. Agaasimuhu waxaa uu sharaxay Qaybaha hoteelka & adeegyada cusub ee uu u hayo bulshada ,waxaana uu sheegay in Hotelkani uu ka koobanyahay 29 qol oo isugu jira kuwa qoysaska iyo noocyada shakhsiyaadka . Agaasimuhu waxaa uu sheegay in uu hayo Adeegyada kala duwan ee ay ka midka yihiin. 1. Biyo Nadiif ah oo Macaan. 2. Cuntada &Cabitaanada 3. Amaanka oo aad looga Taxadaray 4. TV & Telefoonka lineka 5.Internerka 6. Shaqaale iyo Maamul xirfad dheer u leh howlaha shaqada Hotelka. Agaasimaha Hotelka ayaa Bulshada u balanqaday in ay soo kordhindoonaan Hool cusub oo aad u mugweyn kaasi oo dadweynuhu ku qabsankaraan shirarka & kulamada . C/fitaax Maxamed Cabdi (Kismaayo ) oo ka mid ah Ganacsatada Waaweyn ee Gobolka Nugaal ayaa isna lagu soo dhaweyey Codbaahiyaha waxaana uu u hanbalyeyey Maamulka Hotelka waxaana uu kula dardaarmay in ay joogteyaan adeegyada ay bulshada u qabanayaan oo ay ka mid tahay nadaafadda Goobta ,amaanka . Suldaan C/salaan Maxamed Xaaji Axmed ayaa isna sheegay in ay soo dhaweynayaan odayaal ahaan Hotelkan cusub ee kusoo biiray kuwii hore ee ka jiray magaaladda Garoowe,waxaana uu suldaanku u duceeyey guud ahaan kazoo qaybgalayaasha munasabadda. Wasiirka wasaaradda Ganacsiga Puntland Xasan Jamac Faarax oo si rasmi ah xariga uga jaray Hotelkan ayaa sheegay in loo baahnaa soo kordhinta uu kusoo biiray magaaladda ,waxaana uu sheegay in Hotelkan uu yahay kii 40aad ee laga hirgaliyo magaalo madaxda Puntland ee Garoowe. Wasiirku waxaa uu sheegay in Ganacsatada looga baahanyahay in ay wadanka ka samaystaan maagashiyo iyadoo ay ka hirgalinayaan dhismayaasha & Goobaha noocani oo kale ah,waxaana uu ku baaqay in dowladu canshuuraha ka dhimayso adeegyada maalgashi ee laga hirgalinayo deegaanadda puntland. Munaasabadda Furitaanka ayaa ahayd mid kusoo gabagabowday jawi aad u heer sareeya.

AUN marxuumka.

Garoowe (APL ) : Kulankan oo ahaa mid lagu daahfurayey kuliyadda shareecadda iyo Qanuunka ee Jaamacadda PSU Garoowe,waxaana ay ka dhacday hoolka shirarka ee jamacadda iyadoo ay kasoo qaybgaleen wasiiro,Xildhibaano,Gudoonka Garsoorka,Hay,adaha Caalamiga ah sida UNDP,UNHCR ,UNPOSS,Maamulka ,Macalimiinta,ardayda psu iyo marti sharaf kale. Saalim Siciid Saalim oo ah kuxigeenka Jamacadda ahna madaxa kuliyadda Qanuunka iyo shareecadda ayaa jeediyey ujeedada rasmiga ah ee kulanka waxaana uu sheegay in ujeedadu tahay sidii Bulshada loola socodsiin lahaa Faaiidooyinka shareecadu ay bulshada u leedahay,madaama ay yaradeen dadka yaqiin sharciga iyo qaanuunka kuwasoo qaarkoodna gaboobay kuwo kalana ay dalka isaga tageen. Gudoomiye kuxigeenku waxaa uu sheegay in kuliyadaan laga hirgaliyey jamacadda sanadkii 2008 ayna gacan lixaadle ka gaysteen hay,adaha caalamiga ah sida UNDP,waxaana ay hay,adu meelaysay arday gaaraysa 88 qof kuwasoo la geeyey saldhigyada Booliiska ,Maxkamadaha iyo Xarunta u qareemida sharciga (Legal Aidka ). Saalim waxaa uu sidoo kale sheegay in kuliyadaan manhajkeeda laga diyaariyey kan dowladaha islaamka sida Suudaan,Masar,Pagistaan & Urdun,ayna jamacadu qaadato ardayda kasoo baxa dugsiyadda sare ee dalka ,kuliyadana ay ku jiraan 110 arday oo 46% ay shaqeeyaan jamacaduna ay hayso qaybtii sadexaad. Faaiidooyinka laga dhaxlay kuliyadaan ayaa waxaa ka mida in ay soo baxayaan dhalinyaro xirfadlayaal ah oo aqoon dheer u leh kuliyadda qanuunka iyo shareecadda, Saalim ayaa sidoo kale xusay in caqabadaha haysta habka ay u soconayso kuliyadani Maktabada jamacadda oo aanay u dhamaystirnayn adeegyadii waxbarashada sida Buugaata & Dhismaha,ayna hore gacan uga gaysatay hay,ada UNDP oo iminka looga fadhiyo in ay sii dardargeliso habka wax u socdaan . Gudoomiyaha Maxkamadda Sare ee Puntland C/qaadir Axmed Maxamed ayaa isna qaatay hadalka waxaana uu yiri " Sharci waa Caadooyin & Qanuunka Bulsho ka Dhaxeeya kaas oo Bulshadaas lagu kala hago".Gudoomiyaha ayaa ardayda kula dardaarmay in ay dhowraan sharciga ,Cadaaladda ,ka fogaanshaha Laaluushka si sumcadda garsoorku ay kor ugu kacdo,sidoo kalana waxaa uu ardayda u balanqaday in kuwooda dhamaysta kuliyadda uu shaqo la raadindoono dalkuna u baahanyahay. Mr, Nike waa madaxa UNDP waxaa uu ardayda ku booriyey in ay uga faaiideeyaan Bulshada Waxaa ay soo barteen ee la xiriirta cilmiga Shareecadda & Qanuunka,waxaa kaloo uu gudoonka maxkamadda sare ugu baaqay in in wiilasha kaliya aan la howlgaline gabdhahana lagu meeleyo Xarumaha Garsoorka Deegaanada puntland. Ardayda kuliyadaan wax ka barata ayaa iyaguna fikirkooda ku muujiyey macluumaadka ay ka heleen kuliyaad iyo farqiga u dhaxeeya xiligii hore iyo iminka oo ay barteen shareecadda iyo Qaanuunka. Wasiirka Wasaaradda Cadaaladda ,Diinta & Dhaqancelinta Puntland Eng,Khaliif Xaaji Xasan (Ajaayo )oo soo gabagabeyey kulanka ayaa sheegay in kuliyadaani ahmiyad weyn u leedahay ummadda soomaaliyeed iyadoo wasaaradiisu ay kaalin baxadle ka gaysatay dhalinta barata kuliyadana ay howlgalisay wasaaraddu. Eng, Ajaayo ayaa ardayda kula dardaarmay in ay uga faaiideyaan sharciga iyo cadaaladda madaama burburkii dalka soomaaliya digaashaday ay keentay taaba galid la ,aanta sharciga .

Peacedoon;817522 wrote: From fanaanada 'qaranka' to fanaanada Qawiil. saado cali does not need your approval when she has somalia. fadlan, respect your elders.

nuune;817521 wrote: ^^ Haye Xaaji Xeyraan you thinking of invading oil rich Puntland, like South Sudan did . Ps: Thew news is political, Sudan said the South invaded and took control the oil fields, waa political waxan, nothing actually took place. war ila qosla :D thanks for laugh nuune.