Baaq nabadeed oo ka soo baxay mamulka goboleedka raas casayr “Anigoo ku hadlaya magaca madaxwaynaha, golaha wasiirada, golaha barlamaanka,ururada bulshada iyo dhammaan dadwaynaha reer raasicasayr waxaan u aad iyo aad uga xunnahay dhibaatada iyo colaada ka dhex aloosan labada beelood ee aan walaalaha iyo deriska nahay eek u dagaalamaya nawaaxiga degmada Rako. Sidaa darteed waxaan u soo jeedinanyanaa kana codsanaynaa inay dagaalka gacan ka hadalka ah si deg deg ah u joojiyaan kuna bedelaan wadahal, isfahan iyo nabadaynta iyo dejinta degaanka. Nabad ayaa naas la nuugo leh, dagaal wiil baa ku dhintee ee wiil kuma dhasho. Waxuu kaloo ugu baaqaya isimada, culumada iyo waxgaradka gobolka Bari inay arintaas u istaagaan qayb xoog lehna ka qaataan sidii colaada loo demin lahaa” Maamulka Raasicasyr waxuu diyaar u yahay inuu dhexdhexaadiyo labad beeloo ee walaalaha gogol nabadeedna ugu fidiyo. Waxaan kaloo ugu baaqayaa ummadda somilyeed meel kasta ay joogtaba in ku dadaalaan kana shaqeeyaan side loo soo celin lahaa sumacaddii iyo wada jirkii ummadda Somaliyeed. Barre faatah Mohamud Madaxwaynaha ku xigeenka Raas casayr State

burahadeer;759165 wrote: True endless confrontation r many yearning for some semblance of governing but my intuition tells me SL will go & the rest will have some kind lose federation. SL will go? May I ask, on what grounds? Do they have the right to "go"?

Gaacuur;759164 wrote: of course, you're correct! i think the Minister didn't talk about this issue deeply, whether Sool, Sanaag and Cayn are part of Somaliland or Somalia.. the whole interview was about the current Kenyan invasion. Gaacuur, do you think Somaliland or SNM has the right to separate from Somalia and along with them take not only their clan-territory, but with3 other major clans that are Non-SNM affiliate and Anti-Secession?

Gaacuur;759161 wrote: He never said he is ready to recognize SL, he said it's not up to him but personally he is happy for them for what they did (nabadda iyo maamulkooda).. Oh okay. So, let's be honest here. When we are talking about "Somaliland", which area are we talking about? We know Sool, Sanaag and Cayn is a hostile zone. Not part of Somaliland nor Puntland. So, why can't we be specific and say that the only areas that are "peace" are the one-clan dominated regions of Togdheer, Waqooyi Galbeed iyo Berbera. Am I correct?

Gaacuur;759159 wrote: Been badanaa! here is the full interview. Can you please elaborate on that. Is the TFG minister being accused wrongfully? Is he Anti-Somaliland?

Gaacuur;759156 wrote: Knight of Wisdom, just because Puntlanders are throwing in compliments at Tarzan you're against the Mayor.. :D Lol, no. Actually, to be honest with you, I have heard stories where he has been involved in corruption. Also he has been involved in other forms of crimes, allegedly, so to speak.

Dabrow;759145 wrote: Flickorna är vackra. Jag kommer inte från SCC, Jag är från gedo/Luuq Åh, du är från Jubbaland. Jag måste erkänna, jag verkligen respekterar och beundrar din klan. Utan er finns det ingen Somalia. Aaliyah, are you in Sweden? If no, then where?

Xaaji Xunjuf;759149 wrote: He knows somaliland could help somalia more as an independent republic instead of being unrecognized it also would open up some dialogue and good new relations between the two countries. It would take away all hostilities between the two countries side by side mutual interest but this has a long way to go. Since both sides don't agree on key issues this will only create deeper holes between them. So, let me get your rationale. The Administration of the Triangle in North-Western Somalia would provide more help to Somalia if they are separated from Somalia, than they would if they were to stay as part of Somalia? *Scratches his head*

TFG Minister Recognises Somaliland By:-Osman Hassan I was listening on Sunday evening to Mr. Abdisamad Maalin Mohamoud Sheikh Hassan, TFG’s Minister of the Interior, who was a host on VOA Somali Programme answering questions from listeners. Most of the questions were on Kenya’s invasion of Somalia, its legitimacy, the role of the TFG and the humanitarian consequences of this invasion. As a typical representative of a TFG office holder, the minister’s responses provided a valuable case study and insight into what they stand for. What amazed me is the blasé way that he viewed Kenya’s invasion- justifying and legitimising it as if it was nothing out of the ordinary, and even portraying it as a favour it was doing the Somali people to the extent it was fighting al Shabaab. Tragically, the palpable qualms expressed by the listeners about Kenya’s violation of Somalia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, or its predatory territorial designs on Somalia was something not shared by the honourable Minister, or for that matters by the rest of his colleagues in the TFG. That includes among others, the Prime Minister and the Minister of defence both shamelessly acting as advocates for Kenya’s invasion. But the blame for our national humiliation ultimately had to be put on the shoulder of the head of State, namely Sheikh Shariff. His off-on, flip-flopping stand on the invasion – first agreeing to it, then trying to wriggle out of it, and subsequently toeing the line dictated by Kenya – has done nothing to redeem his already tattered credibility. In a wider context, the frequent squabbles among the top echelons of the TFG, leading to predictable turnovers of Prime Ministers and governments, are rarely about disputes about national interest but clashes to defend what each sees as his turf or personal interest. If they are indifferent to the disrepute they brought upon their offices and themselves, they care even less about making Somalia a laughing stock among the international community. Outsiders looking at Somalia’s tier government structure, encompassing the President, the Speaker of Parliament, the cabinet and parliament, would expect failure by one part of the system to be corrected by the other competent parts, for example the president or Parliament. But this is the case where these office holders are first and foremost men and women with exemplary integrity who put national interest above everything else, and/or have been elected and are accountable to their electorate. The lot we have are neither of this. The whole gamut of the TFG establishment have been imposed on Somalia by outsiders and it is to the outsiders that the leaders of the establishment owe their allegiance, are accountable to and seek support and legitimacy from. Hence their frequent trips to Addis Ababa, Kampala and Nairobi. This is the setting against which the minister’s answers about the invasion has to be seen. Returning to the Minister and his answers, one listener from Hargeisa demanded whether the TFG would be ready to recognise Somaliland since southern Somalia is a failed State and Somaliland by contrast is a functioning democratic and peaceful entity? The Minister did not hesitate but was forthright and unambiguous in his answer: he said he would be happy, as far as he was concerned, to recognise Somaliland but added that it was a matter for the TFG as a government to recognise Somaliland. At least, the Minister is frank and consistent, for his support for Somalia’s dismemberment, entailing the recognition of Somaliland, is in line with his support for Kenya’s invasion of Somalia and its possible dismemberment of southern Somalia. If the Minister’s outburst was shocking and incomprehensible to me, bordering as it is on treason, what made it even worse was that there was no negative reaction to the best of my knowledge to his statement from any source : whether from the TFG, TFP or the media. It is as if everyone shares the Minister’s position, or, to be more precise, southerners do not simply care anymore about Somalia’s unity. The terrible thing about the endless bad news from Somalia for all these donkey years since the overthrow of President Mohamed Siyad Barreh in 1991 is that in the end one becomes inured to hearing or witnessing such bad things about our country that nothing seems to shock us anymore. In despair, those of us old enough look back with nostalgia to Somalia’s golden era from independence till the collapse of the Somali State in 1991, when the Somalis were redoubtable proud patriots, their government and leaders respected throughout Africa and the world, and its mighty army was the most feared in the region. It is an incredulous story for my children and the present day generation who have known nothing else but only downtrodden Somalia that is synonymous in the eyes of the world with failure, famine, lawlessness and a play ground for intervention by every Tom and Harry. There was a time in 1967 when Mogadishu was shaken by the unbelievable discovery that a former foreign minister was after all an agent for Ethiopia. For weeks , people would talk about nothing else finding it incomprehensible that any Somali would betray his country for Ethiopia of all countries. And now, 44 years later, Somaliland, Puntland, other lands, and the TFG are in varying degrees agents of foreign governments. If there was shock in 1967 about one former Minister turned traitor, there is hardly a murmur in 2011 as the Minister’s pronouncements on Kenya’s invasion and Somaliland’s recognition symbolise. When we had the warlords, we could at least comfort ourselves by envisioning a time when they would be replaced by educated principled leaders. Well, we did replace them with degree and PhD holders, professors, Sheikhs, you name them, and yet they all turn out to be no less venal, rapacious and puppets for neighbouring governments. As the Somali saying goes: ” Xeradayadu waa wada ul miidhan hadana mid la qaato ma leh”. (faced with equally bad lot, there is little or no room for choice) An Ethiopian Amhara who used to harbour pathological hatred for Meles Zenewi and his Tigrians for overthrowing Mengestu Haile Marian and thereby ending the Amhara domination of Ethiopia has now confessed to me his admiration for him, not so much for his economic transformation of Ethiopia and its status in the world but above all for ending the menace of Somalia and fragmenting it into mini Bantustans under Ethiopia’s hegemony. There is much parallel between the year 1884 when colonisers carved up the Somali homeland into five parts and 2011 when Ethiopia has partitioned it into disparate parts all under its dominion. And now Kenya wants to have a bit of the spoils and establish its own client regions if not grab Jubaland altogether. Sheikh Sheriif and company only hold fancy titles and make money on the sidelines but otherwise they wield no power, control no country, enjoy no public support or legitimacy. Just as other European colonisations in the 20th Century were forced to end, similarly Ethiopia’s de facto hegemony over Somalia in the 21 Century is unsustainable and is bound to end sooner or later, although what kind of Somalia will in the end emerge is open to conjecture. Somaliland’s secessionist supporters never miss an opportunity to remind us unionists from the north that the notion of union is a dead in southern Somalia and that it is only “bone-headed, out of touch” people from the north, notably from the SSC regions, who are still blindly hooked to united Somalia if not Greater Somalia. There is much truth in what they say but it is a psychological war on us, in addition to their occupation of our regions, to give up on Somalia and succumb to the secession. That will never work. The support for Somali unity may have withered in southern Somalia but the SSC people -and also those in other unionist regions in the north, such as Awdal region- are presently the remaining fountain of Somali nationalism and by default the standard defenders of Somali unity. Unlike other region in Somalia, the SSC is the only one that is on the one hand part of former British Somaliland but more importantly is the bridge that binds northern and Southern Somalia. The goal of Somaliland’s occupation of parts of the SSC regions is to de-link it from the rest of Somalia if it is to gain recognition. The SSC for their part are fighting, with no help from the rest of Somalia or the TFG, to remain part of Somalia and maintain Somalia’s unity. They are bound to succeed. The problem facing Somalia’s unity is not so much Somaliland’s secession as the failure of southerners to put their house in order. Once they do that, Somalia’s unity, including the current secessionist enclave, is assured. By Osman Hassan Email: osman.hassan2@gmail.com Source SSCpress www.sscpress.com Daalacday:83 Short URL: http://boocameonline.com/?p=21687

Dabrow;759136 wrote: För att jag har sett några av de tjejerna i Stockholm bror! Men jag känner inte dem. Och gissade därför att du bor i Sverige...inte så svårt. Viva SSC Somalia! Åh okej. Ja bror, några av flickorna är vacker, eller hur? Är du från SSC?

Dabrow;759131 wrote: Kow: U live in sweden right? I recongize some ppl in that pic you posted. Yeah, how do you know? lol

Xaji_Xunjur is celebrating. I bet he's eating Khat, drinking his tea and clapping, at the sight of the latest clashes in Bari region. 2 brothers fought. Not a big of a deal, it will be resolved peacefully. AUN to the dead.

Qandalawi is absolutely correct. Just because Tarzan visited Puntland, the Puntlanders are throwing in compliments regarding Tarzan. The so-called Somalidiids of Waqooyi-Galbeed are simply lost. I don't even know why they're commenting on issues relating to Somalia. lol LOL @ The female with the Red Dirac, kulaha "Mogadishu last night was like the time of Siyaad Barre". Jaale Siyaad Barre left good legacy behind. In the next thousand years to come....he will always be referred to as the father of Somalia, the man who brought civilization, law and order and good governance to the Somali people for 21 years.

A_Khadar;759028 wrote: ^^ Alx.. That is Allah's blessing.. Beautiful, the camels, goats and horses.. I know. That's breathtaking. Khadaroow, do you think it will be the raining season in December during the Khaatumo-2 Conference? I heard in Nugaal Godan looking beautiful during the raining season, especially up around Xudun ila Taleex.

Akash;759114 wrote: Mr Xunjuf, The people in back home are waiting to see their President to come and its their determination to welcome even your SNM Militia Cant stop him remember when Ugaas Abdirashiid went there, Dilla waxa ka dhacay Tusaale looma soo qaadan Karo fikirka dhabta ah ee dadka deegaanka degmada Dilla ay qabaan. Xaji the people of Dilla listen the radio Awdalstate and they are well informed Akash, another friend of mine. GOD, I love SOL. Somalia's intellectual generation of the 21st Century are present in SOL. Akash, you definitely hit the nail on the head (AGAIN). Here we have a guy named Xaji_Xunjuf, who isn't from Awdal, nor is his clan from Awdal, yet here he is, discussing issues regarding Awdal and the people of Awdal, speaking for them, while he's telling the very people that are from Awdal, like Awkash himself to "shut up" and not speak for Awdal State of Somalia. Xaji_Xunjur and his fellow Somalidiids are full of contradictions. They use the same lame rhetoric and lies to try and defend their ill-fated arguments.

Qandalawi;759084 wrote: The irony with you secessionists is you can't see the contradictions in your logic that's why your boat never gets anywhere. You talk of the SNM exile as great men of virtue who represented their people but SSC and Awdal are nothing, you talk of dismembering Somalia but SL is indivisible, waryaa xunjur get your facts straight. You can have your opinion but not facts. Wow ! Wow ! This dude is extremely brilliant, Masha'allah. I think I have found my new Best Friend here. Qandalawi, bro the Seccessionsts or Somalidiids in Hergeisa have been contradicting themselves for 21 years. They say Somalia is divisible, but Somaliland is not. They say we want to separate from Somalia, but we won't let others go their own way, especially when other clans live in territories that exclusively theirs. They say, SNM, which was formed in London represented the Clans of Hergeisa, Burco and Berbera, YET the Awdal State intellects, politicians, clan chiefs and the SSC intellects, politicians and clan chiefs around the Globe don't represent their clan. Like WTF lol

Qandalawi;759056 wrote: People in exile or outside are free and well informed to make up their minds as they wish, even if you said they don't represent people back home, surely they represent themselves and are from the region in question unless you want to deny that as well. That's good enough for them to have the right to speak in the name of their region - Awdal region. Your SNM movement was formed in London and all your warlord leaders were once based in exile, did they represent the people back home at the time? Don't shoot yourself in the foot waryaa Xaaji xunjur Well put, extremely well put. You have just hit the damn nail on the head. Mash'allah ! Xaji Xunjur and his crew of the Somalidiids are full of contradictions. I gave them the nick name of "Christian Bible", due to their limitless contradictions. Awdal State is on "exile". The Qurbajoog don't represent their own people. Bla-bla-bla-bla.....have they forgotten how SNM was created in London and has been in exile for 10 years? Lol SNM's leaders had their boots in Somalia in 1991. Yet, from 1981-1990, the SNM leaders whom were on exile, supposedly represented their people, while the Awdal State intellects and the SSC intellects around the world "don't represent" their people. Punch of bullshit, if you ask me.

Somalia;759005 wrote: Wallahi I see the people of Laascaanood as the closest to me, that's why tens of boys from Mudug, some my cousins died in 2007 while most of PL troops were in Mogadishu they went to Laascaanood and died. The so-called SSC you call them, in London they are the most pro-PL, even my dad's best friends are all from the so-called SSC, you have cuqdad filled inside of you and nothing more. Laascaanood could be taken tomorrow but politics overshadow it, please do not embarrass yourself with this SSC, do you know when Faroole landed in Heathrow International, I saw a flock of women coming back saying they waited for hours, even the woman who is the SSC women's leadership in London. Don't get the people of Laascaanood mixed up with your crowd. Somalia, first I want to say AUN to the MJ soldiers and Non-SSC soldiers from Puntland that died both in Southern Somalia and defending Laascaanood back in 2007. Those, those that died for Laascaanood from 1991-2007, I consider them as my brothers. May Allah have mercy upon them. Now, let's move on from what happened in 2007, the betrayal that took place in Laascaanood. 98% of SSC people are sad about that incident and we are 100% Anti-Somaliland. You used "wallahi" to be as real as you can and I respect that, despite the fact that you've appeared to show signs of calaacal and weakness. Nonetheless, here is where I stand. I think it's best if your clan and my clan went their own way. You govern yourselves, your territories and we'll govern ourselves and our territories. Let there not be animosity between us, for there is nothing for the two of us to fight about. I am not here to claim Garoowe, nor an inch of any MJ land and I suggest you do the same. We, Beesha SSC have not transgressed against Puntland (SSDF), we don't want anything to do with Puntland (SSDF). We see you as a neighborly brothers, who rule themselves, the same way we are on verge of ruling ourselves. Self-Determination for you and Self-Determination for us. Is that too much to comprehend?

Somalia;758999 wrote: I'm afraid the land belongs to my people, the same people SSC does not seem to represent or have the voice of because then again, they would not be under control of another power. I ask you again to answer the questions without any questions as answers, if you refuse, I understand. LOOOL, what people are you talking about, when you said "my people". Be specific. Ma Faroole iyo xulufadisa?

Baliga Shangale oo Buuxsamay (Jeceliya Jamal Dhulka Hooyo, Jeceliya SSC State of Somalia)

Somalia;758994 wrote: I'm afraid people who are watching our exchange feel too embarrassed for you at this moment. I know your history, I know how you debate, I know which words you use, stop with the fantasy threads, stop with the fantasy arguments. Please stick to the subject and answer my simple , very SIMPLE questions, please. Thank you. Lol @ Embarrassed. Here you are talking about Sool, Laascaanood and SSC, things which you have no control over it. Not to mention, your clan don't settle in Laascaanood, Sool or SSC in general. I've answered your silly questions already. Laaascaanood is settled by the clans that formed the SSC Administration. Whether they are Pro-SSC or Anti-SSC, concerns them and not you. Mind your own business. Have you seen any person from SSC ever mention Puntland or it's relevancy in regards to recent issues in Ceerigaabo or anywhere else in Northern Somalia?

^ You're being immature now. Here is your answers: Answer this and you'll have your answer. What clan settles in Laascaanood? Which clan created SSC?

LMAO @ a self-proclaimed "President" meeting a low-profile Minister of African relations. LMAO @ Britain denying to recognize it's Orphans. Somalidiids of Hergeisa, Burco and Berbera were loyal servants of British since the 1830's, if not earlier and till today...they are considered to be irrelevant by their Masters. LOL

You said you're from the ethnic group "Somalilanders" and not of the ethnic group "Somali". Mind your own business. Leave the matters concerning Somalis to those that are Somali. Focus on your ethnic group "Somalilanders". LMAO

Xaaji Xunjuf;758982 wrote: Yes i am reer borama i lived for 3 years in borama i don't think akash can say that or Mr nuur ,harshin and dulcad daror etc are not part of Somaliland not sure what that has to do with Awdal i can also say that the nuur guy hasn't visited Somaliland or borama more than 2 and a half decade's lool.People in exile can't do things back home. This is not about Clans you see everything through a clan lens see this is why i am opposed to Clan states because Clan starts some where and it will break down into sub clan level and it will further break down into sub sub sub clan level. Eventually it will divide you and you're brother who don't share the same mother. By the way if you knew something about Mr Nuur aka Gar yaqaan he is not even from Borama he is from a village called dila and the people of dila said no You're the most disillusioned person on the Net. You speak out of your rectum, no offense. Do you even read what you write? Living in Boorame 3 years doesn't mean shit. You are not of the clans of Booraame or Awdal for that matter. Akash is from the clan of Awdal and has the right to say what he likes about matters regarding Awdal. Not too long ago, you said that ANY one from Gaashaamo, Daror inside Ethiopia are Somalilanders automatically. When I asked you why? You said, because of clan-ties. Lol, I asked you if people from Dhagaxbur or Qabri Dhahar are Somalilanders too and you said NO. Apparently, you proved to us that this so-called "Somaliland" is a clan-enclaved State, for the SNM clans and by the SNM clans. People or clans from Awdal have never been part of the SNM militia. In fact, they were massacred in 1991 and in the 1980s by the SNM militia over and over and over again. You have no say in Awdal affairs. Quit embarrassing yourself. You're the same guy that said "Somalilander" is an ethnicity just like "Somali". Technically, you denied being a "somali". Congratulations, you're officially a Somalidiid. The funny thing is, what are you doing here, a site called "SomaliaOnline"? LMAO