Lol, Somalia, check it out: Let's talk about at the present time. Whatever your history was, good for you and whatever achievements we did or didn't do, good for us. To you be your past and to me be my past. Now, let's talk about SSC and Puntland. It seems to me that Beesha SSDF and Beesha SSC don't really share anything in common. So, I ask you this....if we don't want to be with you guys in a shared Mamuul, then why do you guys want us that bad? lol

Horta, the reason you're insulting SSC is because you want Beesha SSC to come under your administration miya? You want the people of SSC to submit to your rules and conduct and give their natural resources to you, in the name of "we are Tol"? lool The sooner you accept that Beesha SSC has fully left Puntland Administration and the Ex-Puntland Mamuul, the better you will sleep at nights. Secondly, SSDF and SNM are still intact and are still operating fully, the only difference is that they changed their shirts, one took the name "Puntland" and the other took the name "Somaliland". Same guys, same game, just another day. LMAO @ calling Abdullahi Yusuf a "brave" guy. If he was brave, he wouldn't have left his comrades in 1978 and run for his life. If he was brave, he wouldn't have bowed down to Mengistu Haile Mariam. Lol Your hero was kneeling down, even bowing down to Mengistu Haile Mariam, while Siyaad Barre made Menigstu Haile Mariam, urinate in his pants. Do you now see the difference between Jaale Siyaad and the traitor known as Abdullahi Yusuf? Oh, by the way, Abdullahi Yusuf was never a President either. LMAO My people's achievement? haha Let's see, we are known as Darwiish. We fought against 3 Powers, British, Italy and Ethiopia simultaneously for 20 years. We rejected any agreements with all of the aforementioned Powers. We created the Somali National Anthem. Taleex, SSC is the first place in the History of Africa to have been bombarded via Ariel. We created the USP (United Somali Party) with Reer Maakhir and Reer Awdal. We hold Northern Somalia and Southern Somalia together, with our will. Without us, there wouldn't have been anything called "Somalia" or "The Somali Republic". We have never crawled to Ethiopia, we have never betrayed Somalia and the blue/white flag. Now, let's take a look at YOUR people's achievements. lol I take back what I said about your people. It's pointless for me to say anything pertaining to beesha SSDF. lol

I think some Oil Drilling is secretly taking place or maybe the Mountains near Gumays and Caynaba in the Dhoxo Nugaaleed is being blown up with dynamite for some Coal and other Natural Resources. Reer SSC need to wake up and understand how valuable their land and resources are !!

There is nothing sexier than two or more females debating on a intellectual scale. It's truly a real turn on, for me that is. lol The debate between GaroweGal and *Ibtisam was going smooth, until *Ibtiisam ruined it. *Disappointed*

Awesome thread. Beautiful pictures and videos, masha'allah. That's my STATE !! Thanks A_Khadar ! First and foremost, SOMALIA 4 Life ! then SSC State of Somalia 4 LIFE !

Somalia;754398 wrote: ICU was a clan based organization, don't bring that "peace" to me. They wanted to expand to Galkacyo and elsewhere, I not only commend him, I congratulate Abdullahi Yusuf's actions, what a great man, a legend. Siad Barre was a dictator, try and sugarcoat it all you want, he was a dictator, my family were all put in prison by him, most of my uncles either tortured or killed. One was in his hospital bed when Siad Barre sent NSS to kill him. Don't give me that bull about him being great. Everything started in 1969, not 1978 as you portray it. Who build Laascaanood, Garowe, Bosaso, did he? While he was murdering us, he build lands that wasn't his and that he knew he had to abandon in case of war. Forgot to respond back to this. lol *Forgive me* Okay, so you brought up something regarding the Union of Islamic Courts. If you re-read what I wrote, you'd know that I never mentioned them in any of my posts. I never said there was "peace" in Somalia, either. If the UIC were "clan-based" organization/movement, then I'm pretty sure the SSDF/Puntland were and still are clan-based organization/movement. Are you telling me the UIC were stronger than Abdullahi Yusuf's SSDF, thus he had to use 30,000 Ethiopian troops, with tanks and artillery to defeat his foe? lol You're congratulating Abdullahi Yusuf? Oh wow! On what bases, really? The guy was an Ethiopian-puppet/spy, who sat with Mengistu Haile Mariam in Addis Ababa, gave the Mengistu regime valuable SOMALI intelligence, coordinated attack against the Somali people with the help of Mengistu's regime and killed thousands of Somalis, while under the protection of MENGISTU. Is that your hero? lol There is absolutely nothing, NOTHING great about Abdullahi Yusuf. He is the scum of all scums. He has humiliated himself, his family, his clan and the Somali people. He lost respect for himself, to the point where Mengistu himself jailed him because...frankly, there was nothing to respect or honor Abdullahi Yusuf about. The very man he ran to, after seducing him, put him in a Cell for 6 years. lol Then, he used Ethiopia in the 1990's, 2000s to help him defeat, kill Somalis that were against his leadership. Sucks to be a fan of Abdullahi Yusuf. LMAO

This is strictly for SSC Members. How do you guys think the Khaatumo-2 Conference will end? What do you guys think the outcomes will be or favor? 1) Independent SSC State within a Federal/Central Somali Government? 2) SSC State joining back Puntland, with EXACT parliamentary seats with Beesha MJ and more greater demands in having equal political representation, with an IMMEDIATE sacking of Faroole and his administration? OR 3) God forbid, do you guys think the Khaatumo-2 Conference will collapse and completely be fruitless due to misunderstanding between beelaha SSC?

Hey The_Emperior5, in Somalinet, you've dedicated tons of posts regarding Somalia and Kenya's Cooperation with Jubbaland clans. Here, you're doing the same thing. lol Remember what Voltage from Somalinet said to you? He said, why are you so vehemently criticizing Kenya's path to destroy Al-Shabab, when you have rejected Somalia as your country? lol MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. This isn't about Somaliland neither does it has anything to do with Somaliland, unless, Al-Shabab is connected with Somaliland, thus it's defeat is causing restless in Hergeisa. lol

*Ibtisam;754714 wrote: SSC head count miyaa meesha ka socota?? :D Kinda. lol

Wait, are you saying we can't date? lol

Aaliyyah;754565 wrote: I dont feel like reading thru 5 pages..but hey back ...reer SSC sol ayaan afhayeen u ahaye..bal so dhowoow! Thank you. I hijacked my own thread with silly historical events. So, so far, I met A_Khadar and you. Where are the rest?

Somalia;754388 wrote: Look at you man, you are suffering from an identity crisis, obviously that's why no beel supports you or trusts you politically. I don't want any Beel's trust or support. I live from Daanood ee Gobolka Wardheer area, all the way to Xeebta Sanaag in Laasasurad. I live in Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. I can politically stabilize myself without Puntland and Somaliland's help. The question is, SOMALIA can you with your so-called "Puntland" State survive without SOOL, SANAAG and CAYN along with Beesha SSC not being part of your Puntland, clan enclave state?

Somalia;754383 wrote: Of course, I believe SSC is in turmoil suffering from identity crisis. I've had very harsh words for the region, even stumbled into your king Galaydh, people on this site didn't like it at all. Here is where I step in, as your Psychiatrist, buddy. You see, you're not from Beesha SSC, so, frankly, I don't know why you'd even insult or get into SSC business. We all know SSC is created for the Dblock clan of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. If you want to insult Galaydh, I could careless for he is one man, but to insult a Political ideology and identity of an entire tribe, is a bit ridiculous on your part and pathetic. If Laascaanood said "Piss off" to Garoowe, miyaad ooyee? Are you gonna cry and try to hold onto Laascaanood? lol

Che -Guevara;754377 wrote: Yaala tartamoosaa? Lol Warya Somalia, are you a Puntlander that believes SSC is part of Puntland?

MMA, I think you and I are about the same age. lol Anyhow, the issue of Kenya's intervention is something that will benefit the Somali people, especially, the clans of Jubaada Hoose, Jubaada Dhexe iyo Gedo. The Shabaab terrorists will be exterminated from Kismaayo Port. After a strong, unified Administration, consisting of all the clans in those three States is build, the Port of Kismaayo will be back in good condition, importing tons of International Aid, enough to sustain the lives of the hundreds of thousands of refugees in the Camps and around those areas. People will be able to come back to their homes. Kismaayo will come back to life, the way Mogadishu seems like is coming back to life. The Administration of those three States I mentioned will negotiate the full withdrawal of Kenya's military forces from Southern Somalia, in a fashionable matter, that is, when the situation is under control. I suggest all the haters, hating to see Jubbaland/Azania stand on it's feet and have a viable administration to shut up and mind their own business.

I think we'll see the Rwanda Genocide Part-2, only this time, the actors and the location has been changed.

More... The above is not in chronological order, but a summary of the signs pointing to his money problem. We believe brother Khalid has a problem and needs to be brought to account before he damages more lives/people. People need to know that Khalid Yasin is at best a big dreamer who does not handle money well. It is best not to deal with him, but if they enter a relationship, it is better to stick to the dawah only and pay all his expenses. If any business arrangements are made, they should get the contract reviewed and witnessed, publicly, if possible. If Khalid Yasin wants to collect for a television station or cause, get a process in place to document what was collected and ensure a third party can report on how it was spent.” (Dexter Abu Ibrahim, One Islam Productions) [the brother also provided me with the contact details for all of the third parties mentioned] In February 2008, Khalid Yasin made the statement in the London Muslim Centre, Whitechapel, London in front of an audience of just under 800: "Zakir Naik and Mohammed Ali of Islam Channel and I had a gentleman's agreement to set up a TV station together, they broke the agreement." Mohammed Ali had this to say of him in 2010: "I have never ever met the man... He called me once to apologise for saying something bad about me after I called the lawyers in." DO NOT DONATE YOUR MONEY TO ANY OF KHALID YASIN'S CAUSES UNTIL HE CAN ACCOUNT FOR WHERE THE MILLIONS OF POUNDS AND DOLLARS OF FUNDS FOR THESE TV STATIONS, DAWAH CENTRES AND STUDIOS HAVE GONE TO. If Khalid urges you to give him money to support the website AlWahy then please contact the CEO of that company immediately (CEO@AlWahy.com) as it has been discovered in the last month that the lecturer has been embezzling funds from AlWahy for at least three years now. The CEO saw Khalid as a father figure before these revelations came to light. Yesterday Copland School in Wembley withdrew permission at the very last minute for The Salaam Project to host Khalid Yasin there. The organisers are claiming that it is solely due to his "extremist" views and a local campaign against his attendance, but I have been in contact with the school and the campaigners and I can confirm that part of the reason they asked for his removal was due to the widespread knowledge of his fraudulent schemes. The non-Muslim public and police are protecting us. Shame on us. * Purpose of Life Trust is now dissolved, but was registered for just over a year from a Manchester (UK) address very close to the location that he set up his makeshift masjid and madrassa from 2007-2009. This centre became the focus of the blog Salafi Burnout when Khalid was arrested for stealing money from the parents of the madrassa students. The brief registration likely had something to do with this particular scam. No accounts were ever filed."

Got this from another Forum. Is there any truth to this? ""Sheikh" Khalid Yasin has been operating a fundraising scam internationally for at least ten years. His method is to a deliver an on-stage presentation for a particular project, demand donations at the events he lectures at, then after a few months and 30 or 40 envelope passing sessions he will drop the idea after collecting tens to hundreds of thousands of pounds/dollars. He prefers multimedia endeavours because people know they require expensive equipment. He is never frequently booked in a single city so he is able to go straight to a new state, country or continent and claim he requires funds for a whole new initiative. To do this he needs a moderately large array of company names to operate under. His main organisations listed in his official resumes and websites are: Islamic Information Network Ltd Islamic Teaching Institute Islamic Television Trust Channel Islam IBC Purpose Television Purpose of Life Center/Centre Purpose of Life Foundation Purpose of Life Trust* Purpose Media Group Islam Today Challenge Your Soul None of these are registered companies or charities in the UK or US as Khalid's biogs state. They are fake. You can check these facts yourself using the government websites: http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk , wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk, http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/ Being unregistered means you are unregulated and need not report what you do with your money. Working this way is actually illegal in many ways. Khalid will make enough miniscule moves to convince gullible Muslims that his causes are legitimate. You will see that there is a Purpose TV website that has been running looped promo videos constantly for four years. He sometimes hires offices for very short leases in impressive areas to show people around. He will pay for a new brochure to be designed and printed every now and then to encourage donors. He has claimed many, many "launch date"s during events for Purpose TV all over the world to get people excited about getting their money in. He frequently convinces talented Muslim designers and programmers to offer their services to him for free so that it at least looks like he has some type of team in place. It's old news that Australian TV broadcast an expose of him in 2005, but the information contained therein is informative and fits in perfectly with the pattern of his crimes. They discovered that he lied about his qualifications, his brochures are fictitious, he has debts and that the buildings he claims to be developing have nothing to do with him. The way he gets away with it is this; individual donors donate no more than £100 or $100 a time (after Khalid has very aggressively demanded donations), which they will not chase up if they do not see him in their city for three years or so. No TV station or studio or whatever materializes. And this cycle is able to be repeated over and over and over again because simple Muslims believe that the "backbiting rule" protects all crimes in all situations. One will notice that Yasin does not look for large individual donations from people of standing in the Middle East to set up something in the way of Peace TV or Huda TV. Such a scheme would expose his scam because he would have to be held to account for his business dealings. It is documented that Yasin received Arab funding during the 1980's, but spent the money on a new house in Brownsville, Brooklyn. He particularly likes to agree an appearance fee with an organiser and then during the weeks leading up to the event to start demanding more money. A well-known South London Imam related an incident to me where Khalid demanded £1000 extra just one hour before his scheduled lecture at Goodge Street Mosque. Berkshire Islamic Information Group are hosting him this coming Sunday and Yasin has already asked for more money at least once from them. He demanded an £1500 before an event I booked him for and those in the dawah event loop will be very, very aware of this procedure from Khalid. Most of Khalid's DVD's were recorded, mastered and originally distributed by One Islam in Australia. Here's what they have to say about him: “Khalid Yasin on stage and off stage seem to be two different people. One of the guys here goes as far as naming the one on stage Shaik Khalid and the other one Khalid. Since we dealt with him for a couple of years, we probably have the most information and most recent long term experience. Note, that we are not the only ones that think this way – -The Australia Islamic College here hired him and they fell out over money/trust. Reportedly, his visa was revoked after AIC complained about him (they were the VISA sponsor.) -Sh. Yusuf Estes told us of his history in America of cheating people -Folks in Trinadad have also complained loudly about his tour there – they told us that that had him literally kicked out of the country with police/government help. -People that have known Khalid for a long time say he has always had a money problem. We would like to give Khalid the benefit of the doubt by believing he has a psychological problem and needs help – it is too surreal to see such a gifted speaker pull people into Islam and then watch the transformation when money gets involved. One Islam held some of the biggest and most well attended events and made Khalid Yasin a well known name here. One Islam could fill a room full of 1500 people and send another 300 home. One Islam paid for everything – travel, hotel, venues, publicity, etc. Plus we invested more than $250,000 producing the first 21 lectures with the intention of using the sales money to produce films. The initial arrangement was for Sh. Khalid to be allowed to collect for a tv station and for us to do the rest. The money collected for this was always to launch a station within a year and to give us money to build a film studio. One Islam was so impressed with his lectures and results, they tended to overlook some of the signs. And once One Islam started questioning things, matters got ugly… 1. The name that he collected under seemed to change each tour ITI Challenge Your Soul IBC Islamic TV Trust 2. The amount of money he collected was approximately $200,000 of public collections, not including private collections over the 2-3 year period. Each year, more would be collected with the same promise to have a station running “this year”. The community here never got a status report on where the money went. 3. We found that he always wanted more and more money, a bigger slice of the pie. He wanted ticket sales, even DVD sales and eventually even wanted the “masters” of all of our DVD recordings. We eventually parted ways since we could not afford to do things for free and needed to recoup the money we invested. 4. One Islam gave a lot of DVD stock to Khalid and invoiced him with the understanding he would pay later. The amount owing continued to go up and up. The value of the DVDs he took at wholesale was eventually more than $100,000… 5. Because our vision is to become a film company and he wanted desperately to have the masters and production rights to his legacy, we offered to sell him the production rights to his lectures and in the end “gave him the right to sell” for 2 years. The stipulation was for him not to sell to our customers. Since then, he has sold to our customers, changed the names/covers of our product and gone beyond the 2 year agreement – e.g. he continues to sell.

Somalia;754343 wrote: The man imprisoned thousands which is what led to the coup attempt, Abdullahi Yusuf himself was thrown in jail for not supporting the dictator who took power after the assassination of the LAST elected leader. My aunt's husband was a judge and he had to flee after Siad Barre told him to imprison some people he didn't like. He killed and raped using the NSS. What Abdullahi Yusuf did was patriotic and I would have done the same. You are making it look like as if A Yusuf did it when Somalia was a utopia. Allow me to remind you that Siyaad Barre was the only PRESIDENT in Somalia, since our Declaration of Independence in 1960 who waged war against Ethiopia, to free SOMALI GALBEED. The very Ethiopians that are controlling Hergeisa, Garoowe and Mogadishu today, were urinating in their pants back in 1977. This Abdullahi Yusuf you speak of so boastfully, has been with Mengistu's regime back in the late 70's, mid 80's, and then used Ethiopia to create and hold "Puntland" in a iron fist, THEN as if that wasn't enough, he brought Ethiopia into Southern Somalia, killing thousands and displacing millions. Under Siyaad Barre, there were no Kenyans, Ethiopians or AMISOM in Somalia, not an inch. We had dignity. We had UTOPIA. We had the world's respect. Where is Abdullahi Yusuf? lol But, if you're Anti-Siyaad, I totally respect that. You have the right to disrespect, insult and dislike Siyaad Barre, that's the right everyone has in life. The sooner we realize that and respect each other's opinion, the better.

Jacpher;754285 wrote: Ban them copy cats. SOL doesn't need rebels. I agree. I say, SOL should bomb the shit out of these rebels. Repeat 88'. lol

Bluelicious;754290 wrote: Are you a politicus? You seem to act like a die hard politician :confused: No. I'm just politically and socially aware of what's going on, globally. What about you?

Somalia;754079 wrote: Abdullahi Yusuf wasn't a puppet, there's a simple phrase which sums it up, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. There's nothing embarrassing about it, Mengistu wanted him out, Abdullahi Yusuf wanted him out. People work together when they have a common goal. Hypothetically speaking, would you approve of if Abdullahi Yusuf said that he had sex with Mengistu Haile Mariam, so he can get help from Mengistu, to oust Siyaad Barre? Would that legitimize Abdullahi Yusuf's struggle against Dawladii Kacaanka?

Congratulations to the people of Somaliland State of Somalia. A new political party has been created to join the many political parties of Somalia. The Somaliland Political Party will represent the people of Somaliland State of SOMALIA, the regions of Waqooyi Galbeed, Togdheer, and Western Sanaag. News updates regarding Somaliland Political Party in Somalia, kala soco websiteyada Somalida.

A_Khadar;754036 wrote: ^lol.. blue is patriotic.... This is a great analysis though not sure about the statistics is used. I know, blue is patriotic. lol What statistics are you talking about? If it's the 60% part, then it's correct. If you add up Reer Awdal, SSC, Maakhir they'll be over 60% of the population of Northern Somalia, maybe more.

Tries to catch the lightbulb, but slips from his hand and smashes into the ground. I guess, I'll have no light for the night. *Throws a Cat Fish, stolen from ChiChiChow Asian Food Market*