Garnaqsi;844104 wrote: I just had a full English breakfast. Consisting of eggs sausage and beans, right? How are you even able to eat such heavy food in the morning with your iron stomach? I've always imagined you as a posh speaker lol, you come across like that

Lool Narniah your not alone in this there are others who go through that too. I don't have this problem where I live I hardly come across Somalis and the ones I do come across in a blue moon mind their own business. I get annoyed with people who wanna play haram police as if they are not sinners. Always quick to judge others, trying to find faults in others but themselfs and assuming the most weirdest things about you.

raula;843597 wrote: Granted everyone has opinions on life-but let's not be convinced w/our generalizations especially if you don’t have kids. Surely, there are daycares that are awful, but would it make a difference if you took them to a Somali-daycare centers/muslim owned-just because we share culture & religion similarities? There are shades of generosities from all walks of life & so are many deviants out there (gaal ama qaraabo ha noqdaan). You can’t have KODAK moments Blue, about every milestone in life..what is considered milestones in life by the way..is it only when your child is growing up from their nascent years or at time recovering from terminal disease miraculously. Besides there are skills acquired by a child whether its in a daycare setting or they stay w/qaraabo/maid or parents. As its mentioned-our fate has been determined by Allah s.w. even before they open their eyes-doesn’t mean you don’t work hard in life either way-Allah s.w. Knows. Nonetheless, both partners at times have careers/school/work restrictions et cetera that they can’t negotiate about or otherwise would jeopardize their lifestyles (which at times is depended on by other family members-for instance if you support relatives/humanitarian work), unless the life of the kid(s) are in danger. If they are able to negotiate schedules so as to avoid paying daycare dues-well & good, otherwise at their own discretion. Bottom line-there is more to life & many roads to success Raula the things I said are well known facts in the real world but you on the other hand are generalising that I must not know anything about children because I don't have children. I don't need to have children to understand their needs and rights that's common sense. Besides I have family relatives friends who have children, you have the tv news documentaries articles etc. Eventually you know what to do and what not to do because of the experience you gained from other peoples faults and their experiences. I never talked about a Somali or Islamic day care center being bettter then the regular day care center I was against all day care centers. It doesn't matter whether a day care center is owned by Somalis or Islamic people or by the government it's not about the day care center itself but about the people who work there. You have good and bad people in every religion and culture so it wouldn't be wise to judge our opinion based on religion and culture as most day care centers are babysit places that will only kill the time you are gone and don't learn your child anything. You have top day care centers who are in the very minority who actually learn your child something valuable instead of only babysitting but those are very expensive and most average wage earner can't afford those. There is a reason why people don't want to bring their child to day care centers even if they are a CEO because it's not safe, not good for the childs health and well being, the care of your child is not good and last but not least your child is more frequently sick because they pick up illnesses from other children and infected toys. Being so young and vulnerable most not even being able to speak yet making them more vulnerable. As I said before between 0-4 is the most important stage of their life because that's the time they will be learning everything that they will be using when they reach 4 and above. That's the only stage in their life they can absorb the most information into their brains so it's important to set the right discipline and educate that young child properly instead of letting your child do nothing in day care. This is the time their emotional intelligence and their cognitive skills develop at a fast rate. I never said one needs to have a Kodak moment for literally every lil thing your child does, no. What I said was it's important not to miss out your child's imortant milestones for them such as speech walking bicycling etc. those are the most precious moments that build memories. Every age group has their own milestones according to their age and I find it hypocritical and selfish of you to probably acknowledge your milestones (assuming you do) such as driving license graduation work etc. for your age group and dissmiss that of a baby a toddler and a pre-schooler. Their achievements are just as important as yours. We were talking about if the woman has a high flying career and earns a high amount of salary that is twice the salary of her husband or even more for example. I don't see what kind of loss they will have in their income since the wife earns enough money to take care for the whole family with the added bonus that their child is safe at home with the father. Eventually when the child grows up and reaches pre-school age (3-4 yrs) and starts part time going to school the father can then go back to work. I think it's selfish if a parent dumps his child at a day care center knowing the risks that come with that without considering and talking about it with their partner and close family on how to handle the situation. At the end of the day you are able to speak defend yourself and know your rights, the day care center also know how to defend themselfs and know their rights but who's gonna defend and come up for the rights of the vulnerable innocent child that can't speak if both parties don't care about it and are neglectant. Your child needs to be your first priority and you can't be selfish when it comes to that. Everything else is second you can't tell me otherwise and say there is more to life then securing the safety and security of your child first. Your child needs to be the center of your world. Aaliyyah - That's very true that those day care workers do see it as a job. They will only do the very basic things they will never go the extra mile for your child or care about it the way you do and are not always as attentive. Of course there are also good day care centers but the truth be told there are no problem free day care centers. There is always the possibility of them taking advantage of your child being it so young and vulnerable plus most can't even talk yet. You will never know what happened and that's terrible. Who's gonna come up for the rights of that child? Juxa - I agree with you. If a child grows with both or one parent working that child is most likely to take over its parents work ethic when they get older as they set the example for their child. Nothing comes easy you have to work hard for everything. As Somalis it's important for us to succeed and have good careers and not only be known for taking government money (nothing wrong with it though if someone really needs it hard). I want to be a career woman but at the same time I wouldn't want to be neglectant of the health and well being of my child.

I like the bridge picture. You don't see something like that everyday.

Garnaqsi;842165 wrote: Hehehe. To be honest, I surprise myself with the level of concentration I show over the 90+ minutes of a football match. I feel the flow of blood in my head! I think if I'd that sort of concentration on studying or during my exams, I would've scored 100% on every paper I ever took! To be honest i'm suprised about you too lool. I will never come near you with that amount of blood flowing you could explode anytime. Just a thought: maybe you could start writing football novels that way you're using your passion for watching football for something useful. Wyre - You were a late bloomer. Are you artistic and a good drawer?

Kool Kat is an good example of what I was talking about. More and more people realise that dropping their child at a day care isn't good and the risks that come with that. You don't know what happens to your child, the way it gets treated or the things they learn not only that but you're gonna miss out the highlights of their first achievements like speech, walking etc other then that it's also not good for their health as their immune system is not strong yet to protect them making them more susceptible to viruses, bacteria and from illnesses from other kids or their environment. A child needs tender, love, care, attention and affection from their own parents and that's not something they will get from a day care infact in a day care they are gonna be sharing their attention with other children, the people who work there may not always be patient with your child as they also have few other children to take care of. Experiencing all of that is not good for that child's self esteem and development. A young child needs to bond with their parents it's really important for them. Between 0-4 years is the most important period of a child's life and you want to give them a solid foundation. You can start working around your working schedule when they reach 4 years and make plans who drops them off and picks them up from school. When they get older they gonna remember who raised them was it you or the day care and what memories they will have of their childhood. I believe in raising your child and not letting other people raise them for you. You need to be the one who's there for them whenever they need you not others. You need to be the one teaching your young children about religion and culture and not that the day care teaches them things that are not relevant to you. As the discipline of children starts as soon as they are born and not when they get older and are teenagers. You don't start building the foundation of a house on the top do you? No, you start at the ground. What better option is there for a father to take a break from his career to take care of his child. It's a rewarding job for the father other then bonding with his child and seeing his childs development and highlights, he's gonna get alot more back in return when that child gets older. Juxa;843462 wrote: he can love his kids after work and at weekends? what you people trying to say? huh Juxa the topic and the article was never about dads becoming a permanent stay-at-home father you took a wrong turn. It was about dads taking the initiative to take care of their kids who are between babies and just before reaching school age because they don't want to drop their child in a day care and want their child to be in safe hands. Also that their are more and more women who have a much higher paying salary then their husband so the man needs to give up his job temporary to take care of his child. Some men do it voluntarily because they want to and others because they earn less then their wifes and have to do it. Aaliyyah - I'm against day care too and would never do it. Some day care places are bad. It's hard to decide which one is trustworthy and good for your child. Few years ago I saw a documentary about day cares and nannies in America on the tv and the things I saw was pretty shocking. It was basically your worst nightmare coming true.

I've no problems with fathers wanting to spend time with their babies and kids. I would be even happy to have such amazing man it says alot about such man. The only men who would be a stay-at-home fathers are men who love children and care about their well being. He cares about his child's development and wouldn't trust other people with his child like daycare's. Eventhough I grew up with having a maid at home from the day I was born throughout my first years my mom never used to let the maid take care of me she did it herself.

I don't think this man was sane and shouldn't become the laughing stock for people.

These are innovations made by people and have nothing to do with Islam. Islam doesn't promote bisexualism and transsexualism nor does it justfy it. You can't be one of those two and be a muslim the two don't go together.

Wow so I was right, which means I beated all the perfect fluently speaking Somalis in this thread. Thanks Maaddeey

Lol I know Showqi I was kidding about the asking you part, there are many Somalis who have a criminal record. I'm happy your not one of them stay away from it

My avatar has been stolen too by Serenity

The man is gonna become the biggest criminal ever. He's gonna have revenge for the people who have wronged him but he's gonna have mercy and leave alone the poor and innocent people. That's what I understood with my broken Somali.

Showqi;843352 wrote: Nin-Yaaban , If a Soler gets a criminal record can they post their mugshot in this thread? Don't tell me it's about you :eek: Who do you have in mind?

Lol @ Rudy's I was a Xalimo virgin. You are from Mars lol Congratulations to all of those graduates eventhough I would liked to see more men in there aswell other then the two I seen.

Nice pictures and good to see that there still is higher education after all those years. These students are the future of Somalia. It's brave of them to be able to study further after the rough time they been through in the past.

Lool Coofle so you are also the same no way. I think you need three strikes to be out So far we have Caano Geel, Garnaqsi and Coofle who agree with this post and me and Blessed who disagree.

Loool Garnaqsi. I don't like that you are one of those men :eek: Football is evil look what it does to a gentleman like you it makes you behave like a caveman :mad:

The Shaka Zulus lol

Christiano Ronaldo is HOT No 3 "It's only a game get over it. They will win next time" I'm guilty of this one. I do it on purpose though to annoy them and then laugh. Eff the maniac men who take watching football to a whole another level. Those men wouldn't even know whether your at home or not. I say go out and spend all of his money or plug the tv cable out. Seriously though why would any woman want attention from a man watching a football game when you know it's as if your talking to a wall lol.

Congrats Abtigiis Just remember this not a race this is a marathon in other words what i'm trying to say is I hope they keep being on this pace until they graduate because it can go either way. Kids who do well early can change to performing less when they get older as their subjects become more difficult and vice versa for kids who are poorly early can excel when they get older. The key is being consistent with your performance that's why I said this is not a race but a marathon. I'm just saying.

Lol @ Alpha editing his post because he doesn't want to get in trouble for making a slip up.

Carafaat;841094 wrote: Blue, what did your co workers talk about? I can't say that in here it's x-rated but you can guess it's not that hard. There is always atleast one person on every work floor that talks about such things. Especially if your trustworthy and can keep a secret your ears are gonna get corrupted lol. I don't even know how many secrets i'm carrying of such things and other normal things I lost count. I'm just not one to gossip to others in what people have confide in me.

Wow what's wrong with Somalis living in America? It has the highest crime rate of all the Somalis living in the world. These things never happen in Holland.

wyre;841119 wrote: Abtigiis Soo Xeed Xeedayay Not sure what you said but did you really have to highlight that part where I was being selective about on purpose. Just pretend you never saw Abtigiis say that. The man is married he should be thanking me for saving him