xiinfaniin;754027 wrote: MMA, The PM lost it but he can come back by differentiating between good relationship with Kenya, and Kenya's invasion and circumvention of TFG. The Zack, have you seen how Sharif's minister of Defense is welcomed in Turkey and the Generals who dined with him? Xiinow .....differentiate what? either the PM is for invasion or not. was it you who said said "it will be a shame if MP Gaas supports this invasion" on an other thread?. Ma runbaa wuxuu Abtigiis kaa sheegayo

The Zack - how long will ur exicetment last? Azania or Kenya's Occupation will end up being failures because it will draw a wedge between the same Jubba/Gedo communities it claims it will unite, simply because its a foreign entity. Yet, you have meaningless TFG who just today gave opposing views of Prime minister and President on this issue, more reasons to confuse the mases and for Al-shabaab to recruit.

^ you an an Alarmist sxb - come down, as NGONGe said it took Turkey’s AK party for decades. Remember when Erdogan’s wife started wearing headscarf it was a big news in Turkey. Also, Most of the Islamic world was under colonization 50 yrs go, you don’t expect these ‘Shayateen’ to relent their influence that easy.

true - lets not forget just 10 Months ago under Bin-Ali, Ennahda’s leaders were arrested or exiled. the trend in the Muslim world is towards Islamist inclined ruling systems as Turkey's AK party proved it can be achieved. The task now for Tunisia is to govern like AK Party.

Dabrow;753516 wrote: This is the first time I think Sharif made a good decision. The next question how we can get rid of those damn kenyan from somali soil. Sxb don't celebrate too early. What you gona say when he changes his response?. because there are reports already of US who blessed the Kenyan's incursion and instructed Sh. Shariif to 'explain' and tone down this nationalist talk. Not sure of the president displaying courage. Macalin dugsi tend to do better at 'alif la kordhabeey alif - alif la hoos...

Lool @lobbying

Dab aan kuleelkiisa la arag danbaskiisa lagama leexdo Two of you r too excited lately – war maad ka joogtaan.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/20/uk-france-somalia-hostage-idUKTRE79J2AW20111020

^^there is an other irony to these pics a learn Professor and a savage butcher...both high ranking members of the same government...only in Somalia....

Really???

Thankfull, It’s imply the context in which ‘alshaab’ is being drive-out that is the issue here. Up to this point most Somalis were tired of Al-shabab savagery and were beginning to see their support fade. Kenya’s actions has given this dying cult a life-line and raised their status again. Don’t pay into this fake excuse of Kenya is doing this to Help Somalis - no two Country’s interests are perfectly align. Soon as Kenya settles into Jubooyinka, They will arm a clan they know will serve their interest of buffer state and run away. There is reports already that Madoobe militia taking part of Kenya incursion(under disguise of TFG), soon you’ll have Bayxaani group, Gedo group, rascaambooni, all vying for dominance ….wlc to the 90’s all over again. Sxb I know your type of mentality, Somalis barbaric clan fighting is a part of our culture - just crush who ever that you see as the enemy, how far did we get into this mentality? This type of thinking is what ruined this cursed nation. This is not to say, the solution lies either with al-shabaab or Somali’s chronic clan fighting. We’ll find true genuine peace, when Somalis sit and learn how to settle issues peacefully without settle scores.

Foriegn invaders keep pouring into somali, yet expecting different out come. Kenya can capture Kismayo may be a day or so. they will not hold that town more then few months. As soon as they leave clan rivalry/flighting will erupt again in that part of somalia.

Thankful;752652 wrote: This is not an invasion so stop calling it this. The TFG supports this, and i'm certain most Somalis do as well. Where are all the protestors? Our Somali spirit is stronger then ever, we know who the enemy is and know what they are doing. They used to control Mogadishu and parade around its streets. Now the leadership and most criminals have fled the city. Mogadishu was liberated and recontruction has begun despite Al Shabaab's cowardly attacks and now slowly but surely the rest of the country will be. War ka fiirso this simplistic view of Somali conflict or are you in the midst of Marqaan?, cuz Garaabo intoxication clouds judgement.

Jacaylbaro - I sense little celebration on your side nin yahoow, ever since this incursion started on Sunday? mise anaa mooday.

I agree - I am heading to Nairobi next week to visit my hooyo,,, There shouldn't be too much worries, If any thing Somaalidu qaxay iyo dhibaato waa yaqaanaan.

Ceebeey tacaal. Irony is European pervert retirees pay off underage somali girls as sex slaves - while these tourist are hunted and taken hostage themselves by al-shaydaan

Wiil Cusub;752461 wrote: And Ethiopia has emerged as one of the world’s fastest-growing economies, with GDP up 10.9% year on year in 2010-2011, rivaling China and leading Africa. Indeed, Ethiopia is one of the few countries in the world poised to meet the United Nations’ Millennium Development Goals on time and in full in 2015. Somaliland and Ethiopia are collaborating on the construction of a gas-export pipeline from Ethiopia’s ****** region, promising new jobs and income for people in one of the poorest and least developed parts of the world. rules (or misrules) the remainder of Somalia from the rubble of Mogadishu. World Bank and European Union development money, for example, pours into the black hole that is Somalia, simply because it is the recognized government. Somalilanders, You have admire Odagan waa true politician. 1/3 of the article was clear intent to pay homage to the Master of Ethiopia. The rest is Israel's play book of we are the only light in the midst of darkness...its shame all this effort is waste

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/10/201110189189829781.html TFG Hack Yusuf Bari-Bari takes a beating from Jamal Osman and Prof. Miguna Miguna. 4.5 political formula may give individuals a quotas and seat at Geneva’s exotic mountain views, museums and conference halls, but that won’t help them articulate any rationale argument in support of this invasion. Least, they can do is give these TFG guys media training courses before they appoint them, so they can present their arguments more professionally, even if it defies logic

You keep on repeating al-shabaab ‘evil’ mantra that is not the argument here. But you keep side-stepping this monster didn’t exist prior to December ’06 and were the direct result of Ethiopian invasion, and we shall see what the Kenya invasion creates. You are also putting too much emphasis into a weak and incompetent TFG entity, Just reading their competing responses to the invasion itself is laughable.

Thankful;752296 wrote: President Sharif knows the leadership of this criminal organization well and I dont see him condemning this military action. This type of reasoning is what will gain Al-shabaab more support, Kenyan towns are now more at danger then before. and what - somali president not condemning this action? lol..

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/10/201110121715573693.html

It appears last week's announced plot could very much be cooked: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/12/iran-assassination-plot-skeptics_n_1008068.html

^^Hehe. Viva SSC - True Somali patriots….all is needed is for them to unite.IA

Most contributors are reminiscent similar to FOX news rants of ‘the good invasion’ of Iraq. But the arguments given here aren’t as persuasive as FOX, you’ll need to hire some Neocons..^ It’s true - this wouldn’t happen if Somalis had their act together at first place, but Ethiopia’s invasion was evil intent while Kenya’s invasion is to the benefit Somalis by chasing away bigger evil of all the Shabaabs? A decade ago, the world bought into justification given for the Afghanistan invasion by the only super power, but what benefits has that ‘good invasion’ leveraged for the occupied nation. Where do we see in invading armies that has ever benefited its subjugated lands?..Today’s Security and terrorism inclined world, armies now have little or no need to give any justification, but the people on the margins and those who are directly impacted by these circumstances will continue to suffer. Kenya has been perfecting its playbook of middling in Somali affairs, it might be new to the game, but it’s no less evil intent then Ethios, foreign invasion is an invasion regardless who it’s. the hypocrisy some here to be cheerleaders to Kenya’s threaten national ‘security’, notwithstanding their strong resolute against Ethiopia incursion as evident our genuine aim to see out of this two decade long comma. For Kenya this is dual – purpose invasion at last, one to show the European retirees destine to Kenya’s pristine shores are protected, yet more strategically important, is to spearhead setting up of Kenya’s agenda of Clan buffer state along the border, which will also, no doubly show the likes of Museveni that Kenya will claim its dominant role at the Horn and flex its muscles. It’s also ludicrous argument to suggest Kenya’s hand was free from Somalia affairs prior to kidnapping of aid workers and foreign tourism which Kenya relies as its chief economic source. None of these kidnapping occurred when wikileaks cables showed strong US opposition to Kenya's effort to establish a buffer zone in southern Somalia, nor did these kidnapping existed when wikileaks disclosed Kenyan high official governments doing back-room deals to try to purchase large portion of Somali coast from corrupt TFS reps. None of these kidnapping incursions existed when Kenya’s artilleries from Madera shelled Balad-Hawo town destroying over 350 homes and killing dozens year ago. None of these kidnapping existed when UN’s Maxwell Gaylard after Eldoret conference back in-mid 2000’s convinced Kenya the lucrative potential of becoming host for things Somali aid groups. Nor did kidnapping occur when again; wikileaks disclosed Museveni’s insistence control over Somali resolution processes including the all UN agencies, since he is doing most sacrifices compared to Kenya. In which again Kenya to side-steps Musevini attempts started to train and arm both TFG and other nefarious groups. This invasion will place Kenya in the forefront, even ahead of AU troops in terms of global terrorism perspective, since it deployed its own forces and would be perceived free of incompetent African forces. This will enable them to receive direct support of US and others, while perpetuating proxy wars even further.

^Spoken like true kenyan