Maaddeey;783621 wrote: وَلَوْ شَاء رَبُّكَ لآمَنَ مَن فِي الأَرْضِ كُلُّهُمْ جَمِيعًا أَفَأَنتَ تُكْرِهُ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَكُونُواْ مُؤْمِنِينَ Alle dadka ma qasbo, qofka ikhtiyaarkiisa ayuu wuxuu rabo ku sameeyaa: 'FAMAN SHAA'A FAL YU'MIN WAMAN SHAA'A FAL YAKFUR' But if you go for the latter of the two given choices, you burn in Hell for eternity, so there indeed is 'qasab'.

Caano Geel;772157 wrote: Garnaqsi, i thought you'd appreciate the full version. I came across it a few days back... this is a fantastic damnation of the post-colonialism power struggles, i didn't know that Careys Ciise Kaarshe's material was so political.. Does any one know the history behind this poem? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ4k3VcrTvcb my fav. verse ( forgive spelling issues) wuxuu yiri waa'taheyay, ma wiil iyo waalidkii baa iyaan kala weecan-kara? axdigu waaa ween yahayey, ma labadii wacad dhigtoo, walaahi isgu maraa is weydaarsada xumaan? wadaagey baad tahey'ee aan waaye is wahelin'ee, wan'yahow ha i goon wadnaha q. how do you embed the video, instead of just posting the url. Thank you very much, dear Caano Geel! Good stuff!

^ Oh, I can't believe I missed that post! I feel bit offended but I laughed a great deal!

IAmRevolution;781105 wrote: I didn't use any Tribal name. Just nickname. If using tribe names is against the rules, what makes you think tribe nicknames are allowed?

^ It's against the rules of the forum to use tribe names/nicknames.

ElPunto;780803 wrote: Let's say you're the best hacker in the world - would you work for the Mossad even if they offered you tens of millions - I don't think so. Tens of millions is a lot of money, you know.

*Blessed;780893 wrote: People usually go to university primarily to improve their own economic and intellectual outcomes.If someone chooses to use their skills to also support their community or for the sake of Allah, it's a bonus. Well said, as always! :]

Carafaat;780813 wrote: I did not! I said in certain cases a Phd would not have a lot of added value in Somalia, and there is more need for vocational educated people in the country. You described PhD as a piece of paper that doesn't have a lot of meaning in life. That's actually more than a dismissal of the importance of formal education, but I was kind enough to label as one. You can't bluntly rebuff the value of such a degree simply because Somalia was unable to produce a society that's able to utilise it. That would really just be a rather poor justification for failure on our part as society. I more or less agree with what you have said since in our exchange but I can't make sense of that bit yet. Faarax-Brawn;780885 wrote: This Bullshxt about "Somali People" this and that oughta stop. Qofu soo shaqsi maleh? Why does he/she need to be a somali? cant he/she be Hebel or heblay?- Balse, if someone decided to leave a specific community and join another community, why do u care? I couldn't possibly agree more.

Carafaat;780642 wrote: Garnaqsi, the topic of this thread was why educated people leave their community. I pointed out that indeed being over educated might create a gap between one's career ambitions and his wishes to say, live and work within his community or country Somalia. I would definitely agree with that. However, I vehemently disagree with your dismissal of the importance formal education.

Got that PM! Interesting :] I agree that a PhD probably has no much value in countries like Somalia, but then most PhD students really have no aspirations of working in countries like Somalia; so I would say you are confusing your priorities with those of others.

Carafaat, what did you study in university if you don't mind me asking?

Carafaat;780610 wrote: Abwaan, wallahi I dont see value of it. Universities in Somalia are mainly taught by first and second degree holders. And besides for such a small society we already have to many Phd holders and not enaugh practical do'ers. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is correct; it's far from the truth, actually. If anything, we probably hold the least number of PhDs for a population of our size. I've never seen a Somali with a PhD in physics, biology, mathematics, and this guy is the only one I came across for chemistry; the same goes for most other reputable subjects. Besides, from what I gather, both the quantity and quality of subjects they do at universities in Somalia are laughable and sad, so one's qualification to teach their amounts to nothing. Bob, you got a point there. its a piece of paper and it doesnt have a lot of meaning in the University called Life. Please, stop this nonsense. Everyone attends the university of life by the sole virtue of being alive. It's ridiculous that you seem to be taking pride in that as if it were some sort of special achievement. Besides, you're mixing your priorities here. PhD is by definition is a research degree. If you have no interest in the research value of your subject (what is it anyway?) then you are better off not doing it.

"Tacliin aabahay wuxu i baray tooyyo soo godole Tiska oodda iyo baan iqiin tirada xoolaaye Intii aan tuldaha baas wad wadey rag iga tooreeye." - Maxamed Kaahin Feedhoole.

Now, look at it again: Do you notice anything different?

I'm tempted to quote Edward Gibbon, but I shall not!

Maaddeey;778390 wrote: Just hit them hard with it plain and simple! I can imagine this scenario: Maaddeey: So you're an atheist? Atheist: Oh, yes. I'm. Maaddeey: Were you created out of nothing, or did you create yourself? Atheist: I beg your pardon!? Maaddeey: Did you create the Heavens and the Earth? Atheist: Er, what!? Excuse me, mate. I gotta go. The atheist leaves dumbfounded and Maadeey goes 'yeah, just hit them hard with it plain and simple!'

Here is the song she's singing by the way (a point for the person who names the play which it's from).

Carafaat -- I figured as much. Do you know more? Jacaylbaro -- Are you sure? Tell me more.

C. S. Lewis fan.

Chimera;773203 wrote: I have a distinctive writing style, and majority of my WIPs are made for the ages 9 to 24, I don't want to lose that potential audience due to angry Somali parents or worse fatwas because of my other more grown up orientated material. I would have to change the entire prose to get away with it. @ fatwas. Fair enough.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;775019 wrote: Added on the list: Endless alalaas for qabyaalad wars, with total disregard of the victims of the war and its casualties. Also no shame whatsoever for cheering their clan's war or apparent victory - wrong or not. They are in 2012 physically, but with mentality of someone living some dusty Soomaali village in the year of 1889. Eebboow. I think this is bit more personal than a fair description of neotribalism.

What's in a name? Siilaanyo laf-dhabar ma leh!

Xaaji Xunjuf;775014 wrote: Zidane mesi Ronaldo LOL! You owe an apology to Zidane and Ronaldo (assuming the one you listed is not Cristiano).

I miss this guy: Thousand Messi's and Cristiano's can't do half the stuff he could do!

Someone please find her. I think I'm in love for this first time in many years. What an enchanting voice!