N.O.R.F;827937 wrote: Our previous discussions show you’re yet to fully comprehend the basics of belief in relation to Islam as well as having a baseless objection to it. What exactly in our previous discussions show that I don't understand the basics of belief? What is it about faith that I'm apparently yet to comprehend? A tenner says he will not come up with any examples or quotes from our previous discussions. Any takers?

Somalia;827901 wrote: Everyone signing the constitution has formal education and relevant experience in government, it's part of the road map, do you need me to get it for you? And no there won't be warlords. There will be a 825 member committee and they will be chosen due to their education, most of the parliament has been sidelined for fresh faces. My apologies. I was wrongly thinking that it's going to be like one of those conferences they used to do in places like Nairobi. Obviously Somali politics has come long way since the days I used to follow it. I wish them every luck that it succeeds.

I'm tired of these technologists saying people should take care of their health in time for immortality bullshit! You never live twice! Might as well have fun while you still can instead of clinging to hopeless concepts like that! :cool:

Somalia;827861 wrote: Will it be like this? Not a chance, mate! You've some of the smartest people to walk on this Earth in that painting whereas this constitution conference will be full of muppets with no high school diplomas. Hell, some of the members who will be having a say used to be actual warlords.

N.O.R.F;827873 wrote: It would be good if the rejectors of the faith demonstrated a basic understanding of the faith they've rejected or even faith in general in order for any interesting discourse to take place. Your exchanges with Mario B (who has hit the nail on the head by the way), your non attempt at looking at Ngonge's comment about Nabi Ibrahim (CSWS) or my story about the atheist's reversion only go to show you've yet to grasp the fundamentals of 'faith' and/or 'belief'. Ngonge suggested that scientists should be looking at religious stories like that of Abraham instead of wasting their time with scientific investigations like this one. That's ridiculous and doesn't warrant serious reply at all. I don't know what you were expecting me to do with the story you posted. Mario B presented an argument. Fair play to him. On the other hand, most of the time you only come here with accusations of lack of understanding of faith -- on which, by the way, I've challenged you and you opted out with "I just see athiests throwing lot of blunt spears." Suffice to say you are probably the worst debater I've come across on this board!

ElPunto;827852 wrote: I'm not sure why the same folks keep bringing the same topics re believers are slow, Islam is pre-modern etc. Not sure what the point is of this type of frequent contribution. What are you talking about? :confused:

Mario B;827679 wrote: In the absence of scientific method to determine wether proposition A [There is God] or proposition B [There is no God] is correct then any judgement that you and I make will be based on a leap of faith, hence why I used the word belief in describing your position! Similarly then, in the absence of scientific method to determine whether proposition A [There is Loch Ness Monster] or proposition B [There is no Loch Ness Monster] is correct then any judgement that you and I make will be based on a leap of faith! Do you now see the problem with your argument? As I've explained to you earlier, suspending judgement on God's existence on this basis is epistemologically impractical. That's why we have Occam's razor, burden of proof, Russell's teapot and so on in philosophy. I'm disappointed to say most people in this forum use arguments that have been abandoned before the dawn of analytic philosphy. Now you don't have to believe in order to be religious, you as an atheist can perfom all of Islamic or Christian ritual and dogmas [command and prohibitions] and still be unbeliver i.e you can pray, fast, have a nikah [ you're probably planning one ] and still reject the proposition that there is God in your heart. Hence why we have HYPOCRITES! So don't confuse rituals to internal realityt!! I've no idea what you're getting at here.

nuune;826998 wrote: Kan sakaraadka ah dee, ku kaloo sakaraad ah Chelsick ma ku jiro aan isaga aheyn, he makes the whole Chelsick football team look bad, but hope he doesn't play next season for Chelsick, let him end up in Asia teams for retirement. You're talking about Drogba. The man who quite simply owns Wembley. Admit it - you might not like his antics, but he's brilliant.

nuune;826912 wrote: ^^ It did crossed the line, and end of story, another dogy win for Chelsick, that is fair enough, I do like Chelsick minus that shoowiistaha istus bilaa nacaska ah It didn't. At most 3/4 of it crossed. The rule is the whole ball the whole line. Which player are you referring to by the way?

Did anyone else notice that forum traffic is bit low today?

N.O.R.F;826645 wrote: ^Liverpool might make a bid in the summer Haha, very funny. I saw this joke the other day: Liverpool have offered to sell Andy Carroll back to Newcastle Utd for free. Newcastle have reported Liverpool for threatening behaviour. Cisse looks like the type of player who would stay on form on any club, though.

N.O.R.F;826637 wrote: ^Ma waxaad rabtaa Garnaqsi to stop liking him? You got jokes, man!

This thread is just crazy. No other word for it.

So Shabab had even Osama worried with their death penalties and all? They have no shame!

Aaliyyah;826549 wrote: who knows. If not you, I knew your long lost twins LOL

Aaliyyah;826542 wrote: ^ that doesnt make you a horrible person. You are just not a phone person. Some people are like that. I have lost in touch with few people who moved out of my city. AND that was because they just never bothered to make phone calls. I simply stopped calling lol..i dnt know i guess at first i kinda thought they were horrible people but at the end if someone is not gonna try calling you, you are not gonna keep calling regardless of how sweet they are lol..there comes a time where you just move on. salaam I'm exactly like one of those people. Hell, you might as well know me! :] I moved out of the city, and sort of got too distracted to keep in touch. Cheers!

On a personal note, I consider Alexander Grothendieck the greatest genius alive!

Bright student ≠ genius.

Aaliyyah;826537 wrote: qarnaqsi you should call your friends the same way you call your family.I mean it is fine to text, but not like paragraphs after paragraphs. Thats just irritating.. I don't usually have paragraphs to say, to be honest. Even when I call someone I stay on the phone an average of a minute or two tops. That probably explains why I don't have contact with most of my friends from, say, six years ago. Horrible person, I'm lol.

The title put me off! I know we shouldn't judge a book by its cover and all, but it put the whole picture of the first part of 'Ragoow aarsi haween u adkaaysta markiina' on my mind, which I think captures one of the dark parts of the Somali culture pretty well.

Aaliyyah;826528 wrote: ok this is one of those random topics lol. Nothing you will benefit from it. But, I am just curious do you have those few people in your life who text you more than they call you? and does it annoy you??..I am seriously considering of disabling the text function in my phone . I am sorry dont get me wrong i dont mind if someone text me one line..but seriously texting a whole paragraph? and no im not being mean. I am just wondering if anyone is on the same page as me? salaam Hehe. Smart phones nowadays have speech-to-text function so whole paragraphs aren't surprising at all. But honestly sometimes it's just easier to text someone then call them. For me, anyway. My family, I usually call them; my friends, I usually text them.

This is disgusting in every possible way!

He had a field day at The Bridge the other day, scoring two crazy goals against Chelsea. Halkaa ka wad inaadeer Ciise, oo bal xoogana ii soo tuur dee abaar baa dalkii ka dhacdaye.

Mukulaalow;826482 wrote: I am 13758 days old. work that out? You were either born September 3, 1974, or the day before. Now fear, you have told strangers your date of birth!

Mario B;826472 wrote: While I agree with some of your above comments, where I disagree with you is the disingenuous way you come on this forum and pretend that your version of truth is written in stone. Just admit it, on this issue at this moment in time you're just speculating, also just admit that we are both creatures of belief, albeit a different version of it. As for my limited reading, well I would let Socrates speak for me... " the only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" On morality, I would say apart from Nietzsche, most atheist are just theists without God. [Especially the pious ones ] I don't know what you mean by my version of truth. If you think my scepticism towards religion is arrogant, then do explain why. I would have to subscribe to a religion for us to have different versions of belief, so I would have to disappoint you on that one as well. Your remark on morality surprised me because no serious thinker nowadays considers morality to have had a religious origin; as a matter of fact, the converse is widely considered to be true! As a joke, though, I think it's a good thing that you subscribe to religion; as you have conditioned morality to religion, I would hate to imagine what would have become of you without the leash of religion.