Carafaat;737751 wrote: The former regime used the State to enrich the elite of a certain clan. USC is the direct effect of this. The former regime excecuted many wadaads and sheiks, Al Ithixaad and its fundamentislic vieuws were the consequence. And as you know Al ithixaad is the mother of all fundementalistic groups in Somalia. Nothing just happens like that. cause ---- effect Just because few families lived in Boli Qaran that according to you justify mass murder and 20 years of anarchy?, again take responsibility for your actions! 20 years! the so-called imams were killed for committing high treason aganist Somalia and threaten our nations stability after our national security service found out that they were part of an Arab conspiracy against Somalia and attempts to destroy our nation by hideing behind Islam, this conspiracy existed since 1960 and was financed by Saudi Arabia they have triumphed with Al Shabab today, it was this Jalle Siyad tried to prevent.

Carafaat;737721 wrote: You cant compare 'cause' and 'effect'. A lot has been written about the Somali conflict of the past decades . And all scholars and researchers(Somali and non-Somali) agree that cause of the Somali conflic is because of the the governance and policies of the former regime. Was it the former regime who forced USC to loot all State and private property? or forced USC rebels to rape and murder hundreds of thousands Somali civilians?, or the USC starvation of Bay and Bakool which killed 500000 somalis? or did they force the somalis to figth aganist each other in 20 years? or invite the ethiopians to invade their country in 2006? or the current Shabaab madness? Take responsibility for your actions and do not give a government who died 20 years ago the blame for your crimes.

Saalax;737715 wrote: The roads were built by the chinese and donar aids. Improvement on healthcare, Agriculture, Forbade tribalism that i agree with you but only to be started again by non other than him by favouring different groups, putting some of his uneducated kinsman to top positions in the government just because of "kinship" and settling unknown refuuge's into other people's lands to change demographics. The Chinese did not do it for free or for being sweet, they were paid for building the roads by the Somali government, just like today when foreigners are building in the arab gulf states they are paid for it. I agree with you the government became more tribalistic and corrupt after the 1977 war but thats because SSDF and SNM tried to destroy the government with help from the habashi, Jalle Siyad became distrustful when many men he had trusted and made into something betrayed him, Ahmed Silanyo was appointed as finance minister by Jalle Siyad but Ahmed Silanyo fleed the country in 1982 into Ethiopia and was in the next 10 years figthing aganist the same government which made him to something, All these events had psychological impacts in Siad Barre, it was a natural reaction to employ people he could rely on and it was often clan men, his tribalism was provoked by the SSDF and SNM, before 1980 he had given 50% of ministers to the SNM clan and 2 out of 4 vice presidents belonged to the SNM clan. whats wrong with seattling somalis from Western Somalia fleeing genocide in their somali homeland? whats " unknown" about people you share ,religion, languge, nationality, culture, with? was the somali republic not made for the somali people? petty tribalism is your mentality.... the refugees was seattled across Somalia not only in NorthWest, and did you forget the 100000 northwest somalis seattled by the Jalle Siyad government in the souhern regions like ,Gedo, Jubba, Hiraan, under the famine in 1974? those regions also belonged to other clans.......

Saalax;737713 wrote: That is rich coming from a former puppet of the ousted dictator Siad Bare. Nationalist Father President General Mohamed Siyad Barre ( AUN) former president of the somali republic created, free education, free health care, buiding roads, invested in our agriculture, created gender equality, forbade tribalism, made Somalia a respectful superpower in Africa and gave the somali people dignity and unity. To work for him was honor and patriotism.

Saalax;737710 wrote: SomaliNationalist aslong as the proud brave descendants of the SNM are alive your kind will be barred from Somaliland. Proud to be child of Qudhmis/tratiors/agents of habashi/ lool like somaliland exists

Aaliyyah;737708 wrote: Somalinatonalist, it is good that you want somalia to be united. I am on the same page, however if somalilanders want to seperate who cares, I don't see this whole need to open a post to force upon them what they are clearly against..even though I must point out they themselves are not respecting the SSC regions and are forcing them. But, then again qalad qalad luguma saxo.. We are going to reach progress and peace when everyone respects each others' wishes. Simple as that..SSC is part of somalia, Awdal state is part of Somalia...and if Somaliland wants to separate. Good luck to them and their three cities!..hope they gain whatever they been crying after for the past 30 years! its time to put this whole thing to end! salaam I agree with the most of your post, but Somalias national unity will remain with out discussion, anyone who want to change this will either be killed or deported to Ethiopia. Until a strong government returns in Mogadishu, it will be great if SSC and Awdal state was armed to destroy the fake SNM adminstration in Hargeysa.

Northwest Somalia are pathetic and backward like the rest of Somalia.

I don't hate any somali clans, because I don't get anything out of their misery. I am just a Somali Wadani who don't want his country divided, is that wrong? Somalia will always be a united country.

Only a secular society can be prosperous and enlightened, devoloped, just look around in the world and compare secular countries with countries ruled by religion, any rational person will understand which system is best. Religion should have no role in the public. Somalia needs a Kemal Ataturk.

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A Zionist is just a person who supports the jeweish peoples rigth to a homeland, you don't have to be a jew in order to be a Zionist. You asked why will they help us: Somalia has large reserves of proven oil and natural gas, these are important natural resources which Israel can not get from its Arab enemies, our country is located geographically so that isreali military bases can be built in Somalia and attack Iran or the Arab countries. You should always be 1 step ahead when working in the interests of Somalia.

" Ethiopiais one of the World's poorest countries. Out of a population of around 80 million (2008) people, 35 million people are living in abject poverty. In one of the world's poorest countries, where about 44 per cent of the population lives under the poverty line, more than 12 million people are chronically or at least periodically food insecure. Most of them live in rural areas with agriculture as their main occupation. With 80% of Ethiopians dependent on agriculture as their main livelihood, severe arid conditions due to persistent lack of rainfall coupled with civil disputes have worsened Ethiopian poverty. All efforts have been made to improve conditions in Ethiopia but things have hardly changed. The extremely poor people comprise of the small and marginal farmers. Areas where poverty in Ethiopia is pronounced: Poverty in Ethiopia is more pronounced in the rural areas as compared to the urban areas. The situation worsened recently because of sharp increases in the prices of food and fertilizers on world markets, which made it more difficult for poor households in Ethiopia, as elsewhere, to secure adequate food supplies. Rural areas have uniform distribution of poverty, Oromiya, being an exception. Oromiya cultivates enset, which acts as a buffer storage at the time of drought and dearth. http://finance.mapsofworld.com/economy/ethiopia/poverty.html ETHIOPIA: Ruled by a Corrupt and Myopic Minority Clique By: Sophia Tesfamariam September 13, 2004 I read an article dated 31 August 2004 entitled “Premier ignores Vision 2020 invitation” about an invitation extended to Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia by the Ethiopian Economic Association (EEA) in which they asked the leader of the minority regime to “express his vision for the year 2020” through their forum. According to the article, the PM had “ignored” their invitation and that EEA had also “tried to approach other government officials to present their views to the public, to no avail”. I honestly cannot imagine what Meles Zenawi could have offered the forum except more of the lies and deceptions he has become famous for, thus undermining the forum and the other invited guests. This arrogant, erratic, flip-flopping, inconsistent, belligerent, defiant, irresponsible and myopic and street-smart leader is incapable of having a coherent vision for Ethiopia, for any year! The reason is simple and straightforward, as one of the participants of the EEA forum, Professor Mesfin Wolde Mariam, Chairman of the Ethiopian Human Rights Council (EHRC) has in the past aptly described Meles’ regime as being: " … an ethnic-based federation… dominated by the minority ethnic Tigrayans… the federal structure in effect divides and rules larger ethnic groups such as the Oromos and Amharas and bars non-members of the Tigrayan People's Liberation Front…” Professor Mesfin Wolde Mariam is not biased when he says that the Meles regime is dominated by the minority ethnic Tigrayans. He is just stating the facts as he and other Ethiopians know them to be. As if Ethiopia has a shortage of qualified and capable sons and daughters, the key and most important government posts are held by Tigrayans. The Prime Minister is Tigrayan, so is the Foreign Minister, Chief of Police, Chief of Staff, Chief of Security, Mayor of Addis Abeba, Minister of Federal Affairs and his Deputy, even the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church is Tigrayan. In the diplomatic arena, most important Ambassadorial posts are held by Tigrayans or are deliberately staffed by hand picked Tigrayan cadres to act as de facto Ambassadors. Moreover, Tigray Peoples Liberation Front (TPLF) members and their families control the transportation, manufacturing and several other industries in Ethiopia. Tigray region is also the single highest beneficiary of the massive aid and loan guarantees that is being given to Ethiopia by the IMF, World Bank and international donors. Schools, colleges, roads, airports, factories, and other infrastructure projects are carried out in the Tigray state while the rest of Ethiopia is ignored, and massive debts are incurred, in the name of the Ethiopian people. A new form of Apartheid is taking hold in Ethiopia through regulations and proclamations by Meles Zenawi’s minority regime. These “Federal Laws” enacted directly by TPLF cadres, Minister of Federal Affairs Abay Tsehaye and his Deputy Barnabas Gebre-Ab (also known as the Minister of Genocide) are designed to systematically alienate and deprive the Ethiopian people not just equal rights, but most importantly it is designed to divide and rule the people of Ethiopia and render them hopeless and helpless. It is not surprising then that in today’s Ethiopia we see students and people from all walks of life being gunned down in broad daylight. Genocide and violent ethnic clashes and religious conflicts are on the rise. Clashes between Meles Zenawi’s security forces and Ethiopians, who are fighting for their basic rights, have intensified. The Tigrayan Prime Minister of Ethiopia is doing exactly what the Sudanese leader is doing in the Sudan today. He is pursuing the same ethnic and political policy that is breeding genocide and ethnic cleansing in Southern Sudan and Darfur. As many international news media, rights groups, UN employees and NGO’s have noted, the Ethiopian regions of Afar, Arussi, Gambela, Gondar, ******,Oromia, Sidama, Tigray , Wollo etc. are in terminal crisis. It was in July 1998, exposing his bigotry and racist attitude, that the Tigrayan Prime Minister at the height of the massive inhumane deportations of over 80,000 Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin from Ethiopia, had arrogantly and defiantly said: “The Ethiopian government has the unrestricted right to expel any foreigner from the country for any reason whatsoever. Any foreigner, whether Eritrean, Japanese, etc., lives in Ethiopia because of the goodwill of the government. If the Ethiopian government says ‘Go, because we don't like the colour of your eyes,' they have to leave.” In spite of the above stated facts, Meles Zenawi, the leader of the minority clique ruling Ethiopia today is being pampered by international donors as he diverts funds donated for famine, resettlement and HIV-AIDs to consolidate his military and security apparatus. Meles Zenawi’s regime has also become a source of deep embarrassment for the people of Ethiopia. In the last 13 years, Meles and his clique have lied repeatedly to the people of Ethiopia about Ethiopia’s political, economic and social issues. A case in point is the final and binding decision of the Eritrea Ethiopia Border Commission (EEBC). After publicly claiming to have “won” in court and accepting the decision as final and binding and urging the international community to pressure Eritrea for the speedy demarcation of the border, this flip flopping Prime Minister is now defiantly holding the process hostage by rejecting the decision. To this day, neither the families nor the Ethiopian people have been informed of the death of the more than 120,000 innocent Ethiopians who perished when they were used as cannon fodder and minesweepers in the Tigrayan clique’s war of aggression and expansion. The personal excesses of the TPLF cadres is shameful and embarrassing, not to mention a waste of resources a poor country such as Ethiopia can ill afford. There are security guards that accompany TPLF cadres everywhere, even when they travel overseas in first class cabin. How can they be so afraid of the people they claim to serve? I can understand if the Prime Minister had a limited number of personal guards, but not a whole brigade! I hear streets in Addis are closed for several kilometers when his motorcade is on the road and that the hundreds of soldiers lining the streets are not even allowed to look at his car. Over two thousand soldiers guard his palace 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. No wonder the Prime Minister and his clique never travel out of Addis Ababa. Why all this paranoia and fear? That is why I have always maintained that this clique ruling Ethiopia lacks credibility, integrity and most of all legitimacy. Today, Meles Zenawi is a danger not just to Ethiopians, but also to Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Sudan etc. and he is also a danger to regional and international peace and security. Therefore, for the sake of the Ethiopian people, and the people of the region and for the sake of regional stability and international peace and security, the international community should take appropriate punitive actions and pressure the Tigrayan minority regime to treat the people of Ethiopia with respect and dignity, and to respect international law and demarcate the Eritrea Ethiopia border without any pre-conditions and further delay. http://www.dehai.org/demarcation-watch/articles/Sophia_Tesfamariam_Ethiopia_ruled_by_corrupt_and_myopic_minority_clique.html

You must be very proud that your white master revealed that she thinks you are more beautiful than the other negros.

The Arab world has realized that a united Somalia is in their interest and have for 20 years refused to support the illegal and ridiculous proposal that one clan in Somalia should be recognized as a nation. The secessionists is begging the arabs: " To All Arab Head of States, We Somalilanders whole heartedly stand with the people of Gaza who suffered tremendously under the unfair siege imposed by the State of Israel, and hope that it will be lifted very soon by the International Community, including Arab governments who are having borders with Gaza, but watching this since 2007. Our forefathers have fought in Palestine in 1946 and many have fallen defending the Palestinian homeland against Israelis. Likewise, the people of Somaliland are going through the same siege for past 20 years imposed expansively by their Arab brothers and closing their eyes to the legitimate rights of our people. When we [Arabs & Muslims] cry loud for justice and freedom for the people of Gaza and at same time deprive the people of Somaliland of their rights, there is something wrong somewhere. Somaliland people are being punished for re-affirming their lost independence in 1991 after having defeated the dictator [siyaad Barre]. The Arab States who were independent in 1960 including Egypt, Sudan, Syria Algeria and others, have all recognized our statehood in June, 26th 1960, and now claim that they only knew one Somalia after the collapse of Siyaad Bare regime, while ignoring the Syrian & Egyptian divorce in 1961 after 3 years of unity of purpose. There was no valid treaty between Somaliland and Somalia in the first place. After 30 years of injustice and oppression our people decided to take their destiny into their own hands. Given the current Kos and mayhem in Somalia since the collapse of the last blood thirsty regime, no one would envy to stay in their company. The Arab nations spearheaded by Egypt and Saudi Arabia are trying to thrust us towards the ill- fated unity that our people have rejected in 1961 referendum. It’s surprising that Arab states do not have a clue about the history of Somaliland, especially Egypt who once ruled Somaliland and Saudi Arabia who ruled from 1560 by the then Shareef of Mecca until the Ottomans arrival to the area. Egypt and Saudi Arabia are solidly behind the isolation of Somaliland, depriving the people of Somaliland access to the international community. For sure Egypt is doing this to preserve a bigger Somalia so that they can use them as whip stick against Ethiopia who owns the source of the Blue Nile. The only Arab country that supports the people of Somaliland and provides certain donations to our Ministry of Health is Kuwait, and we are grateful to this, even though this help comes from the Charity Organizations and not from the government of Kuwait, nevertheless, we thank them. There was few times that UAE Red Crescent has send some delegations to see how they can help in the field of health, specially TB Hospital in capital, and eye clinic were some Drs have done some operations at Manhal Hospital built by the Kuwaiti Red Crescent years back. These are the only help we got from our brothers for the last 20 years, while we have been kept isolated from different areas." http://somalilandpress.com/somaliland-siege-of-different-magnitude-by-arab-states-23052 the secessionists socalled government has failed : " fully understand these things may take time to implement however, from personal observations and having visited a number of Government departments, it seems as though the Somaliland Government is lacking the urgency to implement these measures and have convinced themselves everything depends on international recognition and UN Capacity Building." http://somalilandpress.com/dear-somaliland-government-enough-of-the-visits-photo-ops-and-meetings-with-donors-we-want-a-fully-functioning-government-23047

of couse you can do something, start your own private fundraising among friends and the local community, help the hungry children first they are the most important because they are the future of Somalia. The worst thing is to give up... in the long- term you should start a political organization by young educated patroitic somalis who returns to Somalia and works for the return of our lost nationhood, because without peace and a strong government this famine will not stop.

This people have moved to the northern parts of their own country. The people of Las anod has once again shown brotherhood and nationalism. Who would have thought in 1985 that people from the golden Somali capital, Mogadishu, which had the entire nation's investment in their town, would one day end up as refugees in Las Anod? who in the 1980s was a small village.

I would like to start by saying that I support and admirer the Israeli nation, I am proud to call myself a Somali Zionist. Of course, Israel is a great development model for Somalia, just in 60 years Jews developed their country from a poor backward desert into an, economic, political, technological, military, political, superpower which is self-sufficient. The somali people can also achieve the same as the jews if they are, nationalistic, unite, have visionary politicians, put their country's interests above everything in life,Somalis abroad to use their influence in the countries they live in to help Somalia's national interests, Israel can help Somalia develop our farm areas in the southern somalia to an agricultural paradise, Israel can help Somalia to build a strong military and share their knowledge in all areas with the Somali people, long live Somalia and Israel.

Ethiopia have been able to convince the Western nations that it is Eritrea and Somalia who are threat to security in the horn, despite the fact that Ethiopia has destabilized Somalia by arming different are anti-government warlords, illegal occupation of the Somali region of Ethiopia, and occupation of Eriterias landl areas, hindered the fight against Al-Shabaab in Somalia, Ethiopia is seeking to destroy Somalia and Eritrea and annexing their lands. They have played their cards very well in the past 20 years, Somali and Eritrean nationalists have to definitely implement an intelligent and well-planned policy to reveal Ethiopia's hypocrisy, get the West's support, destabilize Ethiopia. Life is about survival and only the strongest will make it.

She is not only a beautiful representative of the Somali women, but her tears for the victims of USC man made famine in 1992 meant that many important U.S. politicians voted for the important UN mission that saved millions of Somali lifes. She has always used her position to help the Somali people may god bless her for her nationalism.

This gas belongs to the Somali people, Western Somalia which is currently occupied by the evil Tigray regime will eventually be liberated by the Somali people and the natural resources will be used to build a prosperous and developed Somalia, those somalis who collaborated with Ethiopia will afcouse be punished for high treason.

Xaaji Xunjuf;737044 wrote: First post is about SNM i am loving it SNM was and is still one of the biggest threats to the Somali national unity, and the servants of the Somali people's enemies, it can only be defeated through armed resistance, Somaliland is a product of SNM.

This is bad news for the Somali nationalists, this financial help from the old enemy of the Somali people, United Kingdom- to the treacherous SNM administration in northern Somalia will only strengthen the criminal separatist movement. Long live Somalia! Long Live the nationalist resistance movement!