^^^ thank you Baashi. I will..

Originally posted by Suldaanka: ^^ There are a number of African Countries who are working behind the scenes to make this a reality. Listen to this Mr. dreamer. You have two and half hours to understand what the high official from the Ethiopian foreigner official is telling Mr. Abdirahman Koronto, the BBC Somali Addis correspondent yesterday May 3, 2006. Categorically no one is thinking to entertain the idea of “gooni is ku tag†let alone recognize Hargeisa as a city-state. That is the essence of the message if your mind is open. http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/somali/meta/tx/somali_1800?size=au&bgc=003399&lang=so&nbram=1&nbwm=1 PS. This is a question to you cyber geeks out there. Do you know of a free website for audio files storage?

^^^Castro I think in this case the Shabelle media network is reporting valid and factual events. Listen to Leyla Gurrey on Shabeele radio. For your comfort, forward the real player to 14.40 minutes. http://www.shabellenews.com/audia/thurs2.ram

^^^^Basically, this case summarizes what is wrong with Somalia. The “Sheikh†who ordered this execution is a criminal hismself and has to be brought to justice. The Federal Government has to use this case as a documented example of the lawlessness that is prevailing in Somalia and the need for the army embargo to be lifted so that individual rights have to be protected. The Security Council is wrong in perpetuating the pain of the Somalis. It either has to send troops to Somalia to protect the weak or has to help arm the Somali Government to play its natural role of creating peace and security for her citizens.

If you find Somali challenging, this piece from Shabelle Media Network, the original publisher of this gruesome picture, is reporting that the court have rushed to carry the execution because the relatives of the victim have agreed to receive blood money. As most of you have guessed the executed man is from the minority clans and his immediate family is accusing the so-called Islamic courts of keeping them in dark of the day and the time of the execution. The family is also reporting that they had an understanding with the family of the murdered man to receive restitution from them as per sharia.(Islamic Law). ------ Last Updated Thur, April,04, 2006,13:30 Pm--Mogadishu Somalia Ehelada ninkii la qisaasay oo eedeyn u jeediyay Maxkamada Makka Al-mukarama Mogadishu 04 May. 06 ( Sh.M.Network) Ehelada gacan ku dhiiglihii dhowaan ay qisaastay Maxkamadda Makka Al-mukarama ee ka soo jeeda beelaha laga tirada badan yahay ayaa sheegay in aaneey waxba kala socon xukunkii ay ku fulisay Maxkamadaasi, iyagoo ku tilmaamay in uu ahaa mid lagu fududaaday. Leyla Axmed Nuur (Leyla Gureey) oo iyadu ah xaaska uu qabo ninkii la qisaasay adeerkiis oo si gaar ah gacanta ugu heysay la socodka iyo daryeelka Marxuumkaasi intii uu ku jirey Maxkamadda ayaa ku cataawday in aaney waxba ka ogeyn markii uu dhacayay xukunkii qisaaska ahaa ee lagu fuliyay wiilkooda. Waxa ay intaasi ku dartay in ay ku heshiiyeen ehelada laga dilay marxuumkii horey u geeriyooday in la bixiyo diyo , balse maxkamadu ay go'aan ku gaartay in ay qaado xukunkaasi, oo ay sheegtay in uu ahaa mid aan loo dhameyn. Sheekha Cumar macalin Xuseen oo ka soo jeeda beelaha aan hubeysneyn oo ay xukuntay Maxkamadda Makka Al-mukarama oo aan awood u laheyn in ay qabato mid ka mid ah beelaha Hubeysan hadii dabmi uu ku galo maxkamadda horteeda marka laga reebo beelaha laga tirada badan yahay oo fagaarayaasha sidii larabo xukun loogu fuliyo

Mr.Red Sea It is warming and heartening to meet a brother who bases his entire thinking and reasoning on the Holy Quran and on the prophet’s traditions. But, all apologies apart, you need to take a clean position on this issue and you don’t have to be in doubt which side you have to be on because these Quranic verses are, in no uncertain terms, tell you what you have to do: And if two factions of the Believers fight, you should make peace between them. But if one of them continues to do wrong to the other, fight the transgressors until they return to Allah's command. If they then do so, make a just peace between them, for verily, Allah loves the just ones. Surah 43 (Al-hujurat) Verse 9. You see the miracle of the Holy Quran. The two factions in this case can not both be right. One of them is doing wrong to the other. The conflict between them is essentially one faction rejecting this command of Allah (Suxaanahu wa tacaalaa): "And hold fast all of you together to the rope of Allah, and be not disunited." Al-Imran (House of Imran ) Chapter 3: Verse 103 . It is up to you to choose which one you hold the rope with, with no “buts†and “ifs†because the command of Allah is clear if you frame the conflict in these two holy verses. Ka fogow dadka saarka qabiilku hayo.

Midnimada Soomaaliya waa muqadas, ka dhegeyso halkan Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Mudane Cabdilaahi Yuusuf Axmed oo la hadlaya dadkiisa ku dhaqan Landan ee cariga Ingiriiska 4/29/2006. Tan ayaa meesha ka saareysa wax alle wixii mugidi ah ee ku jiray siyaasadda dawladda ku meel gaarka ah ee Soomaaliya ee ku wajahan Hargeysa. Caqli xumow ku cibri qaado....+

ALLAAHU AKBAR, AFKU KUMA GO’O, A. Hirad..... You deserve to have your name written in GOLD. I am from Hargeisa, too AND I am not less able than the Tigranyan boys who are determined to hold different nationalities and races together in a nation-state including my own race of Somalis. Indeed it is an insult to Africa if few armed bands/gangs who are taking advantage of the power vacuum in Somalia succeed in having a forum with South African government to dismember a sister state which happens to be the purest of her children. Let the hired pens of the separatists [sNM gangs] satiate themselves from sand dunes.CIIDAA HA KA DHERGEEN ------------------------------------------------- By: Abdalla A. Hirad Sunday, April 16, 2006 The recurrent and insistent claim by the oligarchy of “Somaliland†that all the clans within the region are committed to and supportive of the secession has never been substantiated and is ethnographically and politically refutable. The fact that militia from “Somaliland†and “Puntland†are facing each other in a dangerous confrontation in Adhi Caddeeye, between Burao and Lasanood, hundreds of miles short of the claimed boundaries of “Somalilandâ€, says it all. The fact also underscores the prediction that the war fronts will multiply should the oligarchy and their cohorts push their luck any further, with or without the full reconstitution of Somalia. There is, therefore, also a greater degree of probability that the hard won peace in the region might be tested to its peril if the secession is pushed to the limit. “Somalilandâ€, at best, has, therefore, been a face-saving concoction by—a strategically contrived excuse for the alliance of—the clan elite seeking the secession as matter for falsely demarcating their claimed jurisdiction of influence, in their jockeying for power at the national or regional level. A large proportion of the people of the North—comprising all clans—do not indeed subscribe to the motto and the mantle of the secession. The fact that the people of “Somaliland†had their share of sectarian violence under the banner of :â€Somaliland†and have had their equitable share of power resources in the Transitional Federal Governmentâ€, attest to the fact that “Somaliland†is still a murky political undertaking, if primarily regional rather than national; that, in essence, even the Issac, the majority clan in the area are divided on the issue; and that, as an issue, the question of the secession can be a quick sand for those not fully informed. Professor Iqbal Daood Jhazbhay comes in handy as one of those victims of ignorance. However, even if we come to consider some of the experiences of countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea as a cine qua non example for the argument towards the fission of Somalia, which the professor celebrates as a great example for the purpose of confusion, the phenomenon did not take place in many other countries, which have survived their civil and political conflict. Countries such as Uganda, Rwanda (which experienced the greatest genocide in modern history), Burundi, Congo, Mozambique, Angola, Liberia, Sierra Leone and the Ivory Coast all make cases in point, as examples in Africa, in this regard. There have been even some countries elsewhere that have fused again including the two Germanys and the two Yemens, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Some are still struggling in the process of re-amalgamation as in the cases of the Sudan and its south, the two Koreas and China and Taiwan. Finally, and by way of concluding remarks, the unionist constituency in the region has been struggling to outwait the saber-rattling of the secessionists for war, as Jhazbhay confirms, in the above quotation from the leadership of “Somalilandâ€. They have been waiting for a government of Somalia to come to power as an ultimate option for solutions. And that, in my considered view, has been the safer option than to directly confront the secessionist constituency on a head on collision course, in order to avoid violence in the short term. It seems therefore a stronger pull out of the myth of “Somaliland†by the union oriented clans in the North is as dangerous as a stronger push for the secession by the secession oriented clans. In the long term, however, one hopes dialogue and compromise on all sides will avert an approaching tragedy as a way out. The next safest thing to do is for the region to break up into its constituent clans to avoid unnecessary tension and civil war, so that those clans who wish to secede can freely do so and those who wish to stay united with the rest of Somalia can freely do so. Thus, in all cases, the mythology is bound to crumble for each sub-entity to return to its original state of nature and “shift for itself†as it sees fit. It is a matter for the constituent clans to choose between the scenarios. And it takes all to make it one way or the other. The frightening thing is that people of Professor Jhazbhay’s mind are of the opinion to push so recklessly for the secession to incite civil war within the region, even sooner than the TFG can ever intervene! And that is the other worse kept secret! Confronted with the efforts of the international community to uphold the territorial integrity and the national unity of Somalia, if possible at all, as a constraint, the Professor simply dismisses the international position as simply “ignorantâ€, as he wrongfully argues that“these uninformed perspectives are held arguably due to sheer ignorance, stupefied indifference, or a lethal combination of both.†So much for professor Jhazbhay’s claimed love for “Somalilandâ€, wisdom in resolving the problem and for his international expertise on the question of Somalia, if at all! Sool: A thought for Puntland†– A Responseâ€, posted inWardheerNews.com on April 12, 2006 correctly writes: “… and there’s a perfectly solid reason for that: in the aftermath of the disintegration of Somalia’s central government, the Somali people reverted back to the next level of political unity: the clan. Mogadishu was once the most integrated Somali city in the Horn of Africa region. Today, it is dominated by a single Somali clan-family whose “claim†is grounded on the ideology of traditional land ownership. Under that same ideology, the SNM rebel movement “liberated†Waqooyi Galbeed [NW] regions of Somalia from the former military dictatorship and declared unilateral independenceâ€. But “Somaliland†does not factor in as a clan territory. The former British Protectorate comprises the land of a number of sub-clans lumped together by the colonial masters of old—particularly the British—without the wishes or will of the natives themselves. “Somalilandâ€, like all the other partitions, therefore, has been a superimposed reality on the Somali nation, including the Italian colony in the south, later known as the “Italian Trusteeship Territory of Somaliaâ€â€”which also comprised—still does—a bunch of subclans. The evidence of this fact is widely reflected in the recent history and the nature of the civil war—clan feud being one of its manifestations. It is, therefore, morally disrespectful to the people of the region, if not to the nation as a whole, to try and re-impose those colonial divisions on the people of the Somali Republic, more than half a century after the British and Italians have left. Needless to mention that it sure feels insulting to the South African people and government—after liberation from apartheid—and to the nations of the African continent as whole, to see a South African drumming up support for the dismemberment of Somalia. I am of the strong conviction that, fortunately, that is not the policy of the government of South Africa. History attests to the fact that no sooner than they obtained their independence from the British and the Italians, the entities (the British and Italian colonized parts) signed an un-negotiated, unconditional union, to break the manacles and political division imposed by the colonial powers. Indeed, the visiting delegation from the North to Mogadishu, for reunion with the South, immediately after 26 June, refused to negotiate with the SYL leadership in, when they were offered to delay the union by sometime, on the grounds that the visiting delegation had no mandate to discuss option, other to commit to the act of union. Indeed, the SYL recalled the delegation for continued talks, history goes, only after the masses in Mogadishu took on rioting against the SYL leadership within the next two days or so. And a reunion was committed without any negations. The North had to accept the initiations of the South which had the benefits of ten years of preparation under the UN trusteeship arrangement. To argue that those clans would seek to return to the state of colonization, after an independence of more than fifty years, or accept an icon of that colonial era as a symbol for their new existence is flawed in theory and insulting to the free spirit and the fabric of the Somali society, and particularly to the people of the region. After all, it took only four days for the people of the then newly independent Somaliland to join their brethren in the other part—the Italian colony—who were, in turn, also anxiously counting the days until they obtained their independence from the Italians—only to amalgamate with the North, the same day they attained their independence, in July 1, 1960. And it was not a matter of coincidence that the British Protectorate obtained its independence only four days before the independence of the Italian South. It was actually as a result of a conscious and popular demand by the people of the then “Somalilandâ€, despite the persuasions of the British and its sympathizers from within to wait a little longer for the protectorate to mature into a state, before its union with the South. But with the Haud and Reserve area given away to Haile Selase’s Ethiopia, a few years back; with a suspicion that the British may never leave later; with rumors that Ethiopia was engaged in secret negotiations with the European powers, demanding the annexation of more Somali territory; or, simply, the Somali people fearing a re-amalgamation might never materialize later, immediate reunion was an early and an inevitable choice in the Somali psyche of that day. Therefore, the “Somaliland Protectorate†had never transpired into a state of its own right to return to in 1991, as some have falsely claimed thereafter. I must re-emphasize that it had only existed for four days in which, essentially, preparations were being made for travel and, in effect, reunion with the other part. Hence, to speak of “Somaliland†ever being a state is also a very flawed assumption. “Somaliland†was, at best, defined by its colonial history not by its independence of only four days before immediate re-union with that other part of the partitioned Somali nation. A return to the state of “Somaliland†represents a platitude or an empty inanity, at best. As to the argument that it has been the only option for those clannish sub-entities, comprising “Somalilandâ€, to “shift for themselves†into a reunion under its banner, after the collapse of government in 1991, one easily finds the banality of the statement in the fact that Somalis in all parts of Somalia have returned to “their state of natureâ€â€”the clan organization—as a base to renegotiate from, for reunion. Hence, there has been no entity—no state—in place for “Somaliland†to secede from, as of the day when the government of Somalia collapsed in 1991. There were only clusters of clans everywhere, including the bunch that make up the claimed myth of “Somalilandâ€. What makes “Somaliland†so different, one might ask, from the rest of the nation in its structure, for its people not to return to the “state of natureâ€â€”the clan structure? Or, is it different at all? On the contrary, one does not need to look hard for the answer in this regard. The dispute over Sool and Sanaag (formerly two regions of the former British Somaliland) between the existing “Puntland†and “Somaliland†stems from the fact that the subclans in those two areas belong to the larger D-a-r-o-o-d clan, and would rather stay with “Puntland†comprising their kinsmen than be hurriedly bulldozed to become part of a “Somalilandâ€, which is not of their choice. And there lies one worst kept secret, for Professor Jhazbhay to note, if he would! The recurrent and insistent claim by the oligarchy of “Somaliland†that all the clans within the region are committed to and supportive of the secession has never been substantiated and is ethnographically and politically refutable. The fact that militia from “Somaliland†and “Puntland†are facing each other in a dangerous confrontation in Adhi Caddeeye, between Burao and Lasanood, hundreds of miles short of the claimed boundaries of “Somalilandâ€, says it all. The fact also underscores the prediction that the war fronts will multiply should the oligarchy and their cohorts push their luck any further, with or without the full reconstitution of Somalia. There is, therefore, also a greater degree of probability that the hard won peace in the region might be tested to its peril if the secession is pushed to the limit. “Somalilandâ€, at best, has, therefore, been a face-saving concoction by—a strategically contrived excuse for the alliance of—the clan elite seeking the secession as matter for falsely demarcating their claimed jurisdiction of influence, in their jockeying for power at the national or regional level. A large proportion of the people of the North—comprising all clans—do not indeed subscribe to the motto and the mantle of the secession. The fact that the people of “Somaliland†had their share of sectarian violence under the banner of :â€Somaliland†and have had their equitable share of power resources in the Transitional Federal Governmentâ€, attest to the fact that “Somaliland†is still a murky political undertaking, if primarily regional rather than national; that, in essence, even the I-s-s-a-c, the majority clan in the area are divided on the issue; and that, as an issue, the question of the secession can be a quick sand for those not fully informed. Professor Iqbal Daood Jhazbhay comes in handy as one of those victims of ignorance. However, even if we come to consider some of the experiences of countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea as a cine qua non example for the argument towards the fission of Somalia, which the professor celebrates as a great example for the purpose of confusion, the phenomenon did not take place in many other countries, which have survived their civil and political conflict. Countries such as Uganda, Rwanda (which experienced the greatest genocide in modern history), Burundi, Congo, Mozambique, Angola, Liberia, Sierra Leone and the Ivory Coast all make cases in point, as examples in Africa, in this regard. There have been even some countries elsewhere that have fused again including the two Germanys and the two Yemens, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Some are still struggling in the process of re-amalgamation as in the cases of the Sudan and its south, the two Koreas and China and Taiwan. Finally, and by way of concluding remarks, the unionist constituency in the region has been struggling to outwait the saber-rattling of the secessionists for war, as Jhazbhay confirms, in the above quotation from the leadership of “Somalilandâ€. They have been waiting for a government of Somalia to come to power as an ultimate option for solutions. And that, in my considered view, has been the safer option than to directly confront the secessionist constituency on a head on collision course, in order to avoid violence in the short term. It seems therefore a stronger pull out of the myth of “Somaliland†by the union oriented clans in the North is as dangerous as a stronger push for the secession by the secession oriented clans. In the long term, however, one hopes dialogue and compromise on all sides will avert an approaching tragedy as a way out. The next safest thing to do is for the region to break up into its constituent clans to avoid unnecessary tension and civil war, so that those clans who wish to secede can freely do so and those who wish to stay united with the rest of Somalia can freely do so. Thus, in all cases, the mythology is bound to crumble for each sub-entity to return to its original state of nature and “shift for itself†as it sees fit. It is a matter for the constituent clans to choose between the scenarios. And it takes all to make it one way or the other. The frightening thing is that people of Professor Jhazbhay’s mind are of the opinion to push so recklessly for the secession to incite civil war within the region, even sooner than the TFG can ever intervene! And that is the other worse kept secret! Confronted with the efforts of the international community to uphold the territorial integrity and the national unity of Somalia, if possible at all, as a constraint, the Professor simply dismisses the international position as simply “ignorantâ€, as he wrongfully argues that “these uninformed perspectives are held arguably due to sheer ignorance, stupefied indifference, or a lethal combination of both.†So much for professor Jhazbhay’s claimed love for “Somalilandâ€, wisdom in resolving the problem and for his international expertise on the question of Somalia, if at all! Abdalla A. Hirad E-mail: MHirad@aol.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keep the Christen name in your dreams. That will keep you closer to the queen of U.K., and for your personal name, we will call you JoeSmith. Do not get agitated. No difference between the two names.

^^^^^ xafiis la'aan bay dhaantaa

Since I heard it yesterday on BBC, Somali section, I have been searching for this article. Sahnoun has in-depth knowledge of Somalia more than any so called infidel experts who forage on the anarchy in this poor civil war-struck African country. Many Messrs. Byrdens of both white and black are engaged in modernized version of mercenary enterprise in Somalia. But that is another topic for another day. Thanks, H.A…

It is great news if the following is not just an opinion of one person but initiatives put together by the Mogadishu Islamic Courts to hunt and arrest the city warlords who have been parasitically feeding and fattening themselves on the misery of the Somali people since the collapse of the central government. Mar uun dadka Soomaaliyeed u hiilliya oo ninkaas ummadda ka qabta... Hogaamiyaasha Muqdisho oo lagu baaqay in la soo qabto, Indhacade oo dadka Muqdisho ugu baaqay in la dagaalamaan kuwa gaalada 16ka sano u diiday Nidaamka Muqdisho Xubnaha Maxaakiim Beeleedyada ku jira aaga hore dagaalka ayaa sheegay in ay soo qab qabanayaan nimaka ka ridoobay diintooda kuwaas oo ay ula jeedaan Wasiirada gadoodka ka ah dowlada ay wasiirada ka ahayeen hadana sameystay Isbaheysiga looga awood roonaaday magaalada Muqdisho. Xubnahaan ayaa sheegay in ay hortaagan yihiin meel u muuqata xarunta Muuse Suuddi hadana ay sugayaan amarka amiirka Muuminiita si ay u soo qabtaan kadibna ay maxkamada u soo tagaan . Maxaakiim beeleedyada ayaa sidoo kale hortaagan irida hore ee dayniile kuwaas oo iyaguna sugayo amarkii ay ku soo xirilahayeen Maxamed Qanyare si loo soo taago Maxkamda. Magaalada Muqdisho oo inbadan xaraan ku heesteen hogaamiyo kooxeedyada ayaa iminka u muuqdo kuwa looga awood roonaday magaalada hadan maxaabiis ku ah xarumahooda . Dhanka kale Gudoomiyaha kaligiis is doortay ee gobolka Shabeelada Hoose Sheikh Yuusuf Indhacade ayaa ku baaqay in laga hortago kooxaha ka ridoobay diintooda kuwaas oo ula jeedo wasiirada gadoodsan. Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa ah meel maalinba cidii xoogaa awood iyo ciidan isku aragtaa ay inta kale ku duushaa si ay u xukunto Cabdi Xasan Gacal Muqdisho Ku noqo beejka ayniilecom @hotmail.com http://www.dayniile.com/Marso/29Maso9.htm

rubish Ooodgobatay ..Why do not you help him and answer the question? Write as much as you can? Naah

Baashe take a break….You already have shown the world the mendacious inanities of the SNM gang mouthpieces who find refuge here on SOL engaging futile indoctrination to sell a rotten product that does have market value in any where on the planet. They do not want to see the fallacy of their logic. Let me give them some other medication that will still show their ugly face to whoever have interest in Somali tragedy…relax. Bunkaaga hal fandhaal oo sonkor ah ku darso , qaadna ka fagow ...hererigu maskaxduu ku ciyaaraa

^^^Why do not you help him and answer the question? Write as much as you can? Naah

you never know who is going to read!! suldaankiisa personalize the issue as much as you want but the question still stands. Answer the question or stop being a mouthpiece for the SNM armed gang.. Originally posted by Nayruus: quote:Originally posted by Suldaaanka: I believe that sooner or later things will have to change. I also believe that SL and Somalia issue will be settled peacefully in a legal and internationally recognised process. Now I love suldaankiisa now……suldaankiisa is seeking refuge to international law and judicial dispute settlement mechanism. I do not think any Somali nationalist wants something that does not belong to them rightfully. But the question to suldaankiisa is how sure is he that the SNM armed gangs behind the scene of Guulwada Riyale’s municipal council are willing to participate in international judicial debate on the question of secession? Will suldaakiisa and the other elk who act the mouthpiece of the SNM armed gangs abide by the verdict of the world? I do not need blah blah.. answer directly since you brought ‘legal and international process’ into the discourse.. will you abide by the end result? Or will you lock yourself up in the fallacious dream of being different nationality and race? If defeated and you still do want to divorce your nationality how prepared are you to evacuate your fart from our city Hargeisa?

Originally posted by Suldaaanka: If you know your geography you will understand. u mean i am from daami..

Originally posted by Nayruus: quote:Originally posted by Suldaaanka: ^I am sure the matter will be between Hargeisa and Mogadishu. Sorry, Garac-lagu-dhal won't be part of the process. so, suldaankiisa u are prepared to talk as a british Garac-lagu-dhal person? you know the eden's british blood claim has not yet certified by the queen

Originally posted by Suldaaanka: ^I am sure the matter will be between Hargeisa and Mogadishu. Sorry, ******* won't be part of the process. so, suldaankiisa u are prepared to talk as a british ********* person? you the eden's british blood clain has not yet certified by the queen [ March 17, 2006, 18:46: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Suldaaanka: I believe that sooner or later things will have to change. I also believe that SL and Somalia issue will be settled peacefully in a legal and internationally recognised process. Now I love suldaankiisa now……suldaankiisa is seeking refuge to international law and judicial dispute settlement mechanism. I do not think any Somali nationalist wants something that does not belong to them rightfully. But the question to suldaankiisa is how sure is he that the SNM armed gangs behind the scene of Guulwada Riyale’s municipal council are willing to participate in international judicial debate on the question of secession? Will suldaakiisa and the other elk who act the mouthpiece of the SNM armed gangs abide by the verdict of the world? I do not need blah blah.. answer directly since you brought ‘legal and international process’ into the discourse.. will you abide by the end result? Or will you lock yourself up in the fallacious dream of being different nationality and race? If defeated and you still do want to divorce your nationality how prepared are you to evacuate your fart from our city Hargeisa?

Originally posted by Suldaaanka: Raggi u dhintay ee naftoodi u hurey, raggii ay dhaleen ayaa maanta u diyaar ah inay ayaguna u dhintaan. Suldaakiisa.....What a shameless mendacity is residing in your skull! The social contract under which the SNM was formed and for which these fathers died for its implementation never called for the dismemberment of the Somali Republic. The objective was to drive Siyad Bare’s regime out of the power. Marka, soo tuug daalim ah ma tihid marka ujeedadoodi aad si qaloocan u leexsatay. Are their children free to decide what they want? Waa markhaati ma doonto, you and your elk are anathema to the fathers who have died to re-democratize Somalia and for sure they are cursing you from their graves.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote: I am really ashamed to be a somali. Then I honestly feel as if you have lost respect for yourself. Why you are saying so? It is human nature to have a value system and if your values are redundant in this cyber age and are not working for you but in fact working against you, I think there is nothing wrong to feel waxba yahay, depressed and zero until you come up with replacement…. :confused:

^^^ under maakhir's entry

Originally posted by Kashanre: ^O.K sxb, lakin ka gudub. Laga tagye, inaad iska ilawdid oo ka gudubti baa kugu haboon. Dabo-noqodkaan sharaftaada iyo sumcadaada bay dhimaysaa maahe waxba kuma darayso. You are also hurting your "cyper" legitimacy, marka ka gudub oo iska ilaq. Talo hadaad rabti wa taa. waxa ina kharibay soomaali haddii aan nahay waa daciifnimada oo uusan qofku mowqif cad uusan qaadanay si uu u saxo recordka... talo haddad rati waa taa...Alle maxaad xumaan duuduub ugu liqnay. why do not say something to the admin to erase suldaankiis insults who first personalized the dabate, on page three and see what woudl be my reaction then..

Originally posted by Kashanre: ^War ninyahow calaacalka naga daa. See xaalku kaa maray? xaashaa Lilaah.. anigu ma calaacalan ee degaha nomanka ayaa iska jicil in ay "wax fiican iska maqlaa" ee waxa aan ku kala duwan nahay sida aan waxa fiican iyo waxa u kala aragno.... :confused: