Originally posted by SomaliThinker: Stop with the lies buddy lool Mr. Thinker, tell the world in what form or shape did I lied to you? Are you disputing the Somalitalk.com’s story that Riyaale and the other goon’s accompanying him along with their luggage were searched at Hargeisa Airport before they embarked on Ethio Airlines by Ethio security personnel? Mr. Brains, do you read and understand Somali? If you do not, FYI, the story is not my creation. Mase sheekado, sida nuune u baahan yahay,waxa weeye, maxaa naloo sheeg sheegayaa waxaan doonno baan qasanaynaa eh? That would not work in public forums. Any issue with these who are engaged to dismember Somali Republic will be brought to light to be analyzed, commented on, disproved, ridiculed at, and shown its nakedness to the world. Like it or not…

Humulation fowqa humilation.... President Riyaale was forced to remove his pants in front of Ethio Airline security desk at his capital city’s Airport, Hargeisa….. Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 12:21 AM Daahir Riyaale oo Itoobiyaanku Ku Baareen Hargeysa intii uusan u Dhoofin Itoobiya... Waxaa waji-gabax ku noqotay maamulka Daahir Riyaale kaddib markii diyaarada Ethiopian Airline oo magaalada Hargeysa ka qaadeysey wafti uu hoggaaminayo madaxweynaha Somaliland lagu amray in la baaro iyaga iyo alaabtoda, arrintaas oo dhacday Sabtidii June 2, 2007 xilli uu Daahir Riyaale Kaahin ka duulayey Magaalada Hargeysa, isagoo raacayey diyaaradda Itoobiyaanku leeyihiin ee Timaada Hargeysa. Markii arrintaasi dhacday dad goob joogayaal ah waxay sheegeen in waftiga Daahir Riyaale ay arrintaas ka biyo diideen, laakiin ay saraakiishii Itoobiyaanka ahaa ee ku sugnaa garoonka diyaaradaha Hargeysa ay u sheegeen in waftigaas iyo alaabtoodaba la baarayo, sidaasna lagu baaray. Qaar kamid ah warbaahinta maxalliga oo arrintaas ka hadlayey waxay sheegeen in "muran iyo is maandhaaf ka dhashay baadhista Madaxweynaha iyo alaabtiisu ay xannibtey duullimaadka diyaaradda muddo Nus-saac ka badan." Wararkaasi waxay sheegeen, waa sida ay warbaahinta maxalliga hadalka u dhigta'e: "in Madaxweyne Riyaale aanu qaadan wax tallaabo iyo go'aan ah oo uu si adag ugu muujinayo diidmadiisa – qawl iyo ficil midna, isla markaana uu si niyadjab leh uga warsugayey waanwaan, dood iyo maslaxaad ay wadeen Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda, mudane Cabdillaahi Maxamed Ducaale iyo wasiirka Duulista Hawada, mudane Cali Maxamed Warancadde, iyada oo sida la sheegay saraakiisha Nabadsugidda Diyaaraddu ay ku adkaysteen inay amar ku haystaan baadhistaas." Daahir Riyaale safarkiisa uu kaga ambabaxay Hargeysa waxa uu kusii jeedey Norway iyo Sweden. Waxase uu sii maray Addis Ababa, halkaas oo uu habeenimadii Axada kula kulmay Ra'iisul wasaraha xukuumada Itoobiya, Zenaw, in kasta oo aan la shaacin uu uga dacwoodey sida ay sarakiisha Itoobiya ula dhaqmeen markii uu ka soo duulayey Hargeysa, waxa keliya oo la sheegay in kulankaas albaababadu u xirnaayeen. Warbaahinta Itoobiya waxay soo saareen sawir muujinaya Daahir Riyaale oo is-gaabinaya si uu ula sinmo Meles Zenawi uu si qummaati ah u taagan iyagoo isa salaamaya. Arrinta ah in Daahir Riyaale lagu baaray Hargeysa oo ay baareen saraakiisha Itoobiya ee ku sugnaa Hargeysa waxay maamulka Somaliland ku noqotay waji gabax. Xigasho-Somalitalk

Come on, lord. You are stronger than that. You can fight in two fronts.

Unless Zenawi takes his troops out of Somalia, no development projects are going to work. The suicide bombers and their vehicles stuffed with explosives are going to rule the streets.So, lower your enthusiasm and the hype.

I haven’t Cas. But that is what the gang believes. If they show themselves as open and free country, may be they have a change to have access to 10 Downing Street. I am giving you facts. I know that child abusers are roaming in third world countries. They come to the poor societies as international businessmen and as experts. They never show themselves as open homos. They practice their trade in the dark. In the recent Toronto Star article I referred to, the abusers was not known to the police but the damage he did is incalculable and very painful to the people of India. Here, we have two open international gays who claim their official residence is in Hargeisa and in support of the secession mania. Do not forget, lord, that we are in situation where we can easily be taken advantage of. Why would you not voice your anger and disapproval of the Gangs action and demand them to remove the abusers from the Somali soil? Being quiet about it and follow our nature of not talking about the abuses of homos, is not going to help us.

Castro, the originator of the thread gave you the facts. He gave you the fact the gang knowingly invited open homosexuals to Somali soil and permitted them to reside amongst us because those homos are journalists who they (the gang) think will help them get recognition. The sources were given to you. Why try not face the reality and condemn them? Why do not you demand these known homos have to be removed from Somali soil? It is far easier to remove them from the Hargeisa than to remove ethios from Mog.. Which damage on Somali people is lighter? An occupier or a raper? By the way, this issue is specific to SNM gangs who want dismember the Somali Republic. It has nothing to do with people of northwest Somalia. Let us call a spade is spade. Yes, the gang is capable to sell the Somali children to the abusers to reach their aim of getting recognition.

Castro, question for you. Are you puking because of the fact SNM gangs are exposed in using cursed (nacalad) tactics (using the remnants of Luud race) to make a case for elusive recognition or are you puking because fags are mentioned in the thread? If it does not hurt you that Hargeisa is becoming a meeting place for world homosexuals , I don’t know why you are in this forum and why you are bothered by what is happening in Somalia. If you are in Canada, I want you to get a copy of the last Saturday or Sunday Toronto Star and gage the magnitude of destruction a white Canadian man has done to a group of Indian youths while he was residing in India. This man was only an electronic and communication salesman. The only finance he used to sexually rape the boys was what he generated by himself. Imagine the level of abuse and destruction a couple of homo journalists with perhaps unlimited pink dollars can cause to the boys of a third world country…..

^^^My source is still telling me that Mr. Siilaanyo is under the watchful eyes of the SNM goons. Waraabe who is ranked as the third powerful leader of the gang is free to go wherever he desires and the media follow his foot steps accordingly. How come Mr. Siilaano who is considered the second leader after Riyaale, is heavily under watchful eyes of the SNM goons? The media is prohibited to take his pictures while he is meeting with the public. If he is in Burco, where are the pictures? Imagine Waraabe or the goon Riyaale visiting areas outside Hargeisa…. By the way, the gang is obviously reading SOL. Good for it

We have to take action against him at the right time and at the right place. He is gambling and if his policies fails him, the Somali people will never forgive him...but one thing is for sure he will go to hell in the other world...

Originally posted by Baashi: Nayruus can you help giving us direction so we can confirm the validity of this claim. This new breaking news will appear on our Magazine. A source close to him who described himself as one of the confidants that he has in Hargeisa contacted me in support of my observation that Mr. Siilaayo is under a city arrest. Letting him to travel outside Hargeisa at the beginning of the last year to London for what had been called “an invitation from the House of Commons”, for the first time in more than seven years is the exception, not the rule. It was the only time he himself relapsed to the secession addiction since he lost the leadership of the gang to the SNS agent, Mr. Riyaale. What happened is that the gangs’ representatives in London misread the intention of a “hand wave” extended from a couple of British PMs. They thought they had an opportunity to talk to the British government. The reps figured out that Siilaayo not the Riyaale was the right person to be brought to London to present the secession agenda. The preference was based on the fact that Silaanyo has some competence in English language since he took his Master’s Degree in Economics from the University of Manchester, England. Since he held various ministerial positions in The Somali Republic and naturally, in carrying out his duties under Siyad Bare’s military regime, had interacted with officials from numerous nation-states in the country and in the international arena, he must have debating skills that Riyaales, high school graduate schooled in Boorama, lacks, they reasoned. When Siilaanyo was informed of the opportunity, he rationalized himself into believing it was a golden opportunity to get access to the Tony Blair’s government. During the visit, he was closely guarded and never had been given chance to get out of the sight of the escorting team. He came back to Hargeisa because he thought they had made some progress in establishing a link to the 10 Downing Street. Or so, they convinced themselves. The source is stressing that my observation is correct because I have asked the right question, which is, why on earth Mr. Siilaayo never visited his constituency and tribal base (Burao) for at least more than five years. Why Riyaale and Waraabe have collected enough airmiles for the rest of their traveling lives while Siilaanyo’s traveling tires are ruptured in Hargeisa’s riverbed? When I asked my source why the gang can not trust him? He said THE REAL LEADER of the gang the so called vice president Ahmed Yuusuf Yasin was furious at his Siilaayo’s initiation of a public discourse on what was called “The Possible Effects the Nairobi Reconciliation Conference”, (PENRC) on the affairs of the northwestern regions (NWR). At first Yasin and the other members of the gang restrained themselves to not shut down the PENRC debate but only showed apprehension and concern. But all of a sudden, like chicken separated from their heads, they started chasing their tail in a downward spiral of confusion and panic because soon the commotions that were felt in tea-shops and qat-chewing circles turned the debate to heated argument between a new class of open federalists and the die-hard secessionists. Several organized debating sessions were held in public arenas, on TV and published in the Dailies especial in Jamhuuriya, which leads the largest readership in the region. Jamhuuriya carried public opinions and articles on the benefits of federalism on the lap of Somaliweyn (Somali nationalism). Furthermore, Jamhuuriya took bold steps and sent the chief editor Hassan Said Yusuf to Nairobi to meet the delegates from NWR in the peace process. The gang wake up one day and put a stop to the all public discourse on Siilaay’s PENRC. What set off the latent fear and suspicion of the gang was the fact that the direction of the debate was moving into Somaliweyn reality. Questions were raised on the merit of the secessionists’ declared independence. The first time since 1991, people in an honest and open manner began to engage self-inspection dialogue on how impossible it is to isolate themselves from the other Somalis in a regime that has no chance to gain sovereignty status amongst international community. The recognition seeking tactics were snubbed and ridiculed at. Signs of open opposition to the gang’s authority began to emerge as the Adnagate floated up. The gang was hit hard by the remark of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the financial powerhouse of Muslim and Arab nations. To be continued....

Pleasant pictures, indeed. Pure... blue... beautiful...Somali flag, the apple and light of my eyes, no other darned clothing can symbolize the Somali identity...

Please forward the message of this thread to Finnish Police and report to them that characters who incite hatred and genocide have no place in a democracy like Finland and has no right to breathe in the air in that part of the world in even a millisecond. The Leon Mugesera of Somalia, Faysal Cali Waraabe is right now vacating their country. He may be traveling with documents holding name identity different from his real name but here is a couple of his pictures: Waraabe(Hyena)of Somalia Mugesera of Rwanda Finish Police contact: http://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/www/contactus

The chairman of Ex Constitutional Committee of the northwestern region of Somalia Dr. Maxamed Nuur Hufane is calling Boqor Buur Madow to come to Mog. .and be part and parcel of Somali Peace Talks before the bargaining power he currently holds expires. Jb, I know he does count for you. All these great men from Hargeisa who have regained their sense and have realized the Somalis in Hargeisa have no other option but to come back to the Somaliweyn camp, kuma tirsana (they are not counted for you) Gudoomiyihii hore ee gudiga dastuurka Soomaali-land ayaa jawaab culus ka bixiyay hadal ka soo yeeray suldaan Buur Madoow Somaliweyn Media Center (SMC) Muqdisho 2505/07 Dr. Maxamed Nuur Hufane oo mar ahaa Gudoomiyihii gudiga dastuurka Soomaali-land ahaana xiligii Madaxweynihii hore Maxamed Ibraahim Cigaal ayaa jawaab culus ka bixiyay isagoo Muqdisho jooga hadal ka soo yeeray Suldaan Buur Madoow oo ku sugan Magaalada Dubai. Suldaanka ayaa sheegay in Cali Mahdi Maxamad uusan u qalmin hogaanka shirka dib u heshiisiinta Qaranka soomaaliya islamarkaana uu yahay ruux galay khayaano Qaran. Dr. Hufane waxa uu sheegay in hadaladaasi ay yihiin kuwo laga naxo waxaana uu tilmaamay in ijaafo loo geeystay mudane cali mahdi maxamed waxaana uu ka raali galiyey hadaladii ka soo yeeray Suldaan Buur Madoow, wuxuuna sidoo kale sheegay Dr. Hufane in loo baahnaa in uu suldaanka laftiisu uu yimaado magaaladda Moqdisho si uu uga qeyb qaato geedi socodka nabada iyo shirka dib u heshiisiinta Qaranka soomaaliyeed laakiin aysan eheyn mudnaantu in la ijaafeeyo gudoomiyaha shirka dib u heshiisiinta qaranka Soomaalidda . " Aad baan ugan xumahay in Boqor Buur Madoow inuu shirka beelaha Soomaalyeed ee shiraayo ee isdileeyn inuu dhaleeceeyo aad baan uga xumahay, waxaan leenahay Boqor Buur Madow oday Soomaaliyeed baad tahay inaad ka qeyb qaadato dib u heshiisiinta soomaaliyeed ayaa lagaa doonayaa, ragaad dhaleeceysay ee aad tiri waa NGO ma aha NGO, Cali Mahdi Maxamed waxaa magacaabay Madaxweynaha jamhuuriyada Soomaaliya C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed , sidaas daraadeed waxaan kuu sheegayaa in shirku madax banaan yahay dowladana ma fara gashaneyso" ayuu yir Dr. Hufane. Somaliweyn Media Center (SMC)

No, no shooting him will not send a strong message, IF THEY CAN, they should slaughter him in Hargeisa's riverbed (DOOXA HARGEYSA). I promise them the recogniton would immediately be granted...

^^You see that is why you can not get the ever elusive recognition. The world does not take you seriously. Once the SNM gang passes a law, shouldn’t it be implemented? Your mouthpiece was on the BBC airwaves with all kinds of threat and punishment passed against any one planning or even thinking going to Mog. and takes part in the peace talks. AND here you have one man in Hargeisa who has declared his intention to fly there? Shouldn’t he at least be in jail? :confused:

SNM Gangs and their sympathizers , go shoot or slaughter Suldaan Mahamed C/qaadir in Hargeisa’s riverbed because he is determined to challenge you by saying, in your face,that no one can stop him participating in Somali Reconciliation Conference planned to be help in Mogadishu on the 14 thy June. As per what you declared on BBC recently, does not the hyped-up rhetoric in your books say that citizens who go to Mog for the peace talks have to be found guilty of treason in sabotaging sovereignty and have to be shown no mercy and should be shot on spot? FYI, Suldaan Mahamed C/qaadir is the head of the council of suldans of the northwestern region of Somalia. …and shut down Borama News Network. It is what you said: any news outlet spreading the Somali peace talks has to be dealt with an iron fist. I love it…..

Man, if you happen to be reading it here on SOL, I suggest to you to do it in the right way. The international community headed by the western democracies will not accept the result of the mythology you propose to dismember the Somalia Republic. If you are confident that you have the support of the majority of the Somalis in the former British Somaliland Protectorate, why don’t you do the referendum in the right and legitimate way? Please do not slaughter the ram in dark places. Bring it to the daylight to make the killing licit (Xalaal). Steps to reach your goal: 1. Disband the Hargeisa regime by disarming the SNM gangs to let the Somali Republic rule her territories fully without armed opposition. 2. Participate in the Somali National Reconciliation Process being planned by the FTG and supported morally and financial by the world communities. 3. Participate in the parliamentary elections in 2007 and make sure all the PMs from north are die hard secessionists like you. During the election campaign there should be no intimidation and harassment. 4. Your PMs must forward a motion seeking the secession of the former British SomaliLand Protectorate from the Somali Republic. 5. The conditions of referendum and separation have to be discussed. 6. After the approval of your motion by the Somali people, the campaign for “No” and “Yes” camps has to take place in the most peaceful and democratic manner. 7. Now invite the representative of the international news media plus Mr. Carter and the world human organizations for supervision and oversight. 8. You win, we accept. You lose, you work hard to become Somali nationalist because it is the only way your race can survive in this evergetting crowded world…. The stories emerging from the south are very disheartening. After killing thousands of innocent civilians, injuring many others and destroying whatever little infrastructure left from the civil war, Ethiopian troops are now in control in Mogadishu with help of the American support. What is morally reprehensible is that the officials of the TFG (Transitional Federal Government) who are predominantly the warlords from the ****** tribe, were saying “we are killing and chasing the terrorists” when the Ethiopian troops were shelling indiscriminately many parts of Mogadishu. How morally bankrupt these warlords from ****** are? Their own people, women, children and elderly were killed from left to right in the thousands and they were celebrating and saying terrorists are on the run and we defeated them. How low morally these warlords from the TFG can go? Obviously there is no limit how low they can go morally. These TFG officials want to govern all Somalia? Allah helps us. This should be a wakeup call for the people of Somaliland. April 7, 2007, U.S. official said “I see this current time as the best opportunity to create a lasting government in Somalia”. This statement from a high U.S official strongly indicates that the American administration doesn’t care who governs Somalia as long as mullahs are excluded from the power. American administration made clear that they will support the TFG to the better end and they will make sure they govern all Somalia. This is Siad Barre regime or even worse all over again in Somalia. American administration is also determined to push the TFG down the throats of the Somali people despite the fact that the vast majority of the Somali people in Mogadishu despise the TFG officials. The million dollar question is what the Somaliland authorities suppose to do about this TFG? It is obvious that militarily Somaliland does not stand a chance against a well equipped Ethiopian troops backed by the American military might and its endless supply of dollars in cash. The TFG is like a category five hurricane bearing down on Somaliland and it is suppose to hit it head on. In my opinion, the Somaliland authorities should not stand silently from what is going on in the south of Somalia. The people of Somaliland and their elected officials should not think for a moment that they are immune from Abdillahi Yusuf’s immoral actions and his power grab. What are the Ethiopian motives towards Somalia in general? Are they trying to dictate how Somalia should be govern and by who? Do they want to keep Somalia divided into north and south? Are the Ethiopian military here to stay in the south indefinitely? These are legitimate serous questions need to be answered but only time will answer these questions. The only logical and wise thing that the Somaliland authorities can do is to initiate a referendum from the people of the north so that the international community can see what the will of the Somaliland people is regarding their future in Somalia. Somaliland authorities should do the following as soon as possible: They should call for referendum as soon as possible regarding the secession of Somaliland from the south. They should explain of what is at stake to the people of Somaliland. They should notify most of the Western and African countries when this referendum is supposedly taking place. They should invite the world media to this referendum so that they witness the fairness and the legitimacy of the voting process. If the vast majority of the people of Somaliland vote for secession overwhelmingly from the south, then international community will be aware at least what the wishes of the Somaliland people are. If the outcome of the referendum becomes pro-federalism, than so be it. This will legitimize the wishes of the Somalilanders in the eyes of international community. I have a feeling that vast majority of Somalilanders don’t want to go through what they experienced under the rule of Siad Barre regime all over again. The people of Somaliland are also fully aware that for the last forty years Somalia was a nothing but a shameful destruction and disaster under the rule and the leadership of the south. The people of Somaliland will be ****** if they say yes to those immoral warlords from the south. Abdirahman Haji Abubakar Ottawa, Canada. Abdirahman.omar@gmail.com http://www.awdalnews.com/wmview.php?ArtID=8833

Make it in the middle of July. I will be visiting London around that time..pleeeeaase

Excellent job, Paragon, I salute you...

Dalkan Reer Hargeysa iyo Xamar, labada daawaysay Dulligii rag baa uga guntaday, oo dagaallamaye Dadaal baannu haynnaa hadduu, Eebbe nala doono Wixii dibadda jira saaddambaa, laysu soo dumiye.....by Cali Xuseen Xirsi (AHUN)

Originally posted by Stealth: 1. kill your family for Somalinimo? 2. how Yey went from satan to a hero in your book? 1. Yes. You want to know how serious I am about Somalinimo (Somali nationalism)? I would kill myself for it. I would kill the whole human beings for it. I would go TO HELL for it. Love it? 2. When I face two Satans I have to go to bed with the less evil one. Both Yey and Riyaale have Zewani’s agenda and are willing to work for him. Both of them are run from (EFO) Etho Foreigner Office. But you know what Yey stands for Somali Republic. Yey is recognized as the legitimate president for the Somali Republic by the international community. Yey is surprisingly more democratic than the Riyaale. Here is the proof: I want every of you to click today’s HornAfrik radio interviews especially this one with Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed and listen to how freely he is speaking his mind. For those who are not aware of the location of HornAfrik radio, it is located in the heart of Mogadishu and it is listened widely in Banadir area. See how tolerant the FTG is emerging? Now I ask you, would it be possible for a strong opponent of the secession issue be able to have access to Hargeisa’s air waves and tally up the shortcomings of the failed endeavor of the dismemberment of the Somali Republic?

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: adigu northwest wax la yidhaa baad cuqdad ka qabtaa sow maaha ?? You are just the laughing stock of the world if you always personalize the discussion. Debate or suht up. I am sure the gang’s losing their patience with you. The gang that rules Hargeisa’s municipal council headed by the Somali National Security agent, Mr. Riyaale, has invested their last diminishing dollars in wrong internet talent. The gang lately came to the conclusion that the really reason the administration has been failing to gain an ear for their endeavor for international sovereignty for last 16 years is because nobody has succored them and defended their position in the cyber war in a logical and sincere debate. They could not pass the girls manned at the front reception desks of the foreigner ministers for the countries they had been visiting since the demon entered their skull. Please click this piece from Hargeisa posted on SoomaaliWeyn cite on May 8, 2007 to see how desperate the gang is to use the internet for their fantasy. Wouldn’t you agree with me that Riyaale has chosen wrong talent when you see growing number of secessionists flying the darned flag and visiting Somali websites but sadly engaged in ad hominem discussions?

The upcoming Somali reconciliation conference will be the final nail driven into the coffin of the secessionists’ dream which of late evolved into dreadful nightmares and hallucinations. Let us work gother to create peace and give no execuse for Zenawi to keep his troops in Somalia. His troops are not only in Mog. but also freely come and go in the northwest region of the country...

Look, does not matter what is your sign on name is! Let us start from scratch, Xalay dhalay. You want to debate with me on the dismemberment of Somali Republic. Thought-out my debating cyber life, I have never encountered a secessionist sympathizer not freely practicing ad hominem in its ugliest stage. When the same tactics are used against them and cornered with facts and truth as well, they resort to intimation and threats. You want to debate with me This is my position. I was born and raised in Hargeisa. I am a Somali nationalist. I do not care the means but my end is to protect the Somali Republic. I am prepared to kill my father, my relatives and my whole tribe which could be 18% of the republic if and that is a big if, the rest of the Somalis survive beyond the horizon. I see it, at the end of the millennium the world will not ask which tribe has survived but the pertinent question will be does the Somali race is still around. Now give me your best reasons as to why I should join you and support the dismemberment of the Somali Republic. Change my mind and deprogram my brain and tell the world where and how I am wrong. The floor is yours…

Just a reminder for the readers: The world said no. The AU said no way. The Islamic and Arab countries said never. President Clinton in 1995 formulated for the world the reply to this issue. When asked to comment on the agenda of the secessionists in northwestern Somalia, he said, “The world is not prepared to grant sovereign recognition to every African tribal village”. And in fact it is a tribal issue and a Somali family faud.