Haatu;937183 wrote: A rubbish thread full of utter rubbish trying to create differences where there aren't any. The Somalis are one people, with one language and one culture. We are talking about cultural sub-groups. Not all Somalis belong to the Nomadic sub-culture! Luckily the Somali constitution acnkowledges the existence of diffrent dialects(sub languages). The official language of the Federal Republic of Somalia is Somali (Maay and Maxaa-tiri), and Arabic is the second language

Khadafi, you are right. Somalia is much more diverse then many might think. The constitution states that af Maay Maay is one of the two official languages. This is a positive step and we should continue to strive for more of this kind of diversity. But that doesnt mean people(irrelevent to which sub cultures they belong to) cant live side by side, cant have the same local goverment, the same provincial administration. Therefor I dont think the solution is having federal states based on culture, but rather states and governance that reflects the culture and diversity of the people. And diversity should be reflected in the governing and institutions of the country. Does this make sense?

Ngonge, most poems are stuff and nonsense. But what do you think about the political message(nuxur) underneath?

Any administration should stop those that undermine its legitimacy. Somalilans goverment has over the years arrested many diffrent Clan Elders, Sultans and Aaqils that went against the administrations will. Kaliil is right to do so as well.

STOIC, I said a few Somali-Kenyans. Just like a few Somali-Ethiopians support the Tigrey regimes oppression of Somalis and a few Djibouti-Somalis support dictator Omer Guelleh. I agree we should not be harsh on those few, as the ugly clan politics is part of the dimension.

Xiinfaniin, saxiib, I just love Puntland Politics.

Oba, is this part of Presidents Culusoows Shukaamis strategy of Somalilanders?

Tallaabo;936982 wrote: Interesting video. I find the Mogdishaawiis to be a reasonable lot. It seems the most delusional among them is the only one claiming to hail from Somaliland:confused: +1

Dabrow;937144 wrote: The thing that kenya and uganda have in common is that both come under the umbrella of peacekeeping but the thing that seperates them is kenyas push for buffer state. This will not be allowed. Plus certain Somalis(few Pirates and Kenyan-Somalis) supporting Kenyans undermining Somalias goverment, souvereignity and institutions.

SOMALIA: Puntland Security Coordinator in Mudug gunned down in Galka’yo http://www.raxanreeb.com/2013/04/somalia-puntland-security-officer-gunned-down-in-galkayo/ Galka’yo (RBC) Reports from central Somalia say that unidentified armed men gunned down a security officer in the Somalia’s semi-autonomous region of Puntland on Monday evening. Ahmed Mohamed Dhagaweyne, who was Mudug region coordinator for Puntland security ministry was shot to dead by unknown assailants in Garsoor neighborhood at Galka’yo town, the provincial capital of Mudug region around 7.00 pm local time. According to eyewitness who spoke to RBC Radio via phone at least one other person was wounded Monday evening. The regional police command did not comment on the assassination and no one was reportedly arrested for the murdering of the security officer. Before joining into the ministry of security, late Ahmed Mohamed Dhagaweyne has served as the head of Puntland Mine Action which affiliated to the United Nations program on Mine Action Service in Somalia. Galka’yo, a divided central Somalia town has been relatively secure in the past months after continuous security operations by the regional police but residents now fear growing clan related kidnappings could incite insecurity activities.

The Zack;937134 wrote: Selective patriotism at its best. I don't know the last time i heard the name Uganda. We all know Ugandans name the HAG mayors in Xamar . Kenya wants safe borders, Jubbaland wants security assistance. Nothing wrong if they work together. Any sources of this? And which Somalis supported thay, any references?

SOMALIA: Puntland Authorities Ban Three Radio Stations Including Humanitarian Radio http://www.raxanreeb.com/2013/03/somalia-puntland-authorities-ban-three-radio-stations-including-humanitarian-radio/ Mogadishu (RBC) The National Union of Somali Journalists (NUSOJ) protests the ban imposed on three radio stations by the Puntland Ministry of information, communication and culture, showing the downgrading level of the Press Freedom in the semi-autonomous regions controlled by the Puntland Administration. The Puntland ministry of information issued a decree dated on 21 February 2013, which was addressed to the all media houses operating in the semi-autonamous regions of Puntland ordering that ‘No radio station can reproduce or air any materials and programs of a media station that is not licensed under the ministry, such as Radio Ergo, Radio Bar-Kulan and Radio Hirad.”. The letter which was signed by the Puntland minister of Information, communication and culture, Eng. Mohamoud Aideed Dirir, was put its subject line: “Notice” and was sent to the radio stations on March, 13, 2013. Radio Ergo is a humanitarian news service based in Nairobi supported by a Danish organization, the International Media Support (IMS). Radio Hirad is based in Hargeysa and supported by the Free Press Unlimited of the Netherlands and Radio Bar-kulan is a UN funded Public broadcaster based in Nairobi and Mogadishu. The three radio stations has taken part the recent draughts that killed thousands of women and children in Somalia and promote culture of dialogue, peace development among other things. The National Union of Somali Journalists (NUSOJ) calls the decision to ban the three radio stations, ‘A backward step to further threaten the freedom of expression and the free press which has no legal basis’ and calls for the Puntland administration to withdrew its decision and allow the radio stations to resume operations.“The decision to ban the radio stations lacks legal basis and contradicts both the Puntland constitution and the provisional federal constitution.” Burhaan Ahmed Dahir, NUSOJ Supreme Council president said, “Journalists and media stations here in Puntland can not accept draconian and repressive rules which the ministry wants to impose and silence the independent media.”“I call for the Ministry of Information to lift the ban against the radio stations and open consultations with the draft media law in order for the journalists and the media houses to self regulate.” Mr. Dahir added. The Puntland ministry of Information introduced a repressive media bill on December 2012, which the ministry denied consultations from the media stakeholders and prompted the media stations and the journalists in Puntland to oppose its compliance. This, however, created a rift between the ministry and the media stakeholders. Several attempts from other ministries to intervene went unsuccessful. Late December, 2012, the Puntland ministry of information filled a legal case to the Attorney General office against the journalists and the media houses in Puntland for not complying the draft media Bill, which was never endorsed by the Puntland parliament. However, the case lacked legal grounds, and was rejected by the Attorney General office taking in a letter copied to the National Union of Somali Journalists. “The ministry should not intimidate and threaten to the journalists and come up with a new strategy and develop cooperation with the independent Media and the journalists.” Mohamed Ibrahim, NUSOJ Secretary General said, “The ministry should let the all radio stations to resume operations and give full respect the freedom of information and the freedom of the press.” Puntland authorities shut down Radio Horseed FM, an privately owned radio station, at the commercial port town of Bosaso in Bari region on October 6, 2012. Since then, the radio stations remains silent. RBC Radio

Faroole closes down 3 radio stations DEG DEG: Faroole oo Amray In Saddex Idaacadood oo Puntland Ka Hawlgala Irdaha Loo Laabo (Xog Shirkii Golaha Wasiirada) http://www.raxanreeb.com/2013/04/deg-deg-faroole-oo-amray-in-saddex-idaacadood-oo-puntland-ka-hawlgala-irdaha-loo-laabo-xog-shirkii-golaha-wasiirada/ http://raadraacnews.com/Raadraacnews/2013/04/kaddib-xaraggi-maanta-ee-seddexda-idaacad-puntland-maxaa-socda-dhagayso-suxufiyiinta-iyo-ururada-saxaafadda-oo-cambareynaya-iyo-maamulka-oo-difaacaya-xeriggan-dhagayso/ Garoowe (RBC) Sida ay Raxanreeb u sheegeen ilo wareedyo ku dhow madaxtooyada maamulka Puntland ee magaalada Garowe, waxaa kulankii golaha wasiirada ee maamulka ay maanta yeesheen looga hadlay saddex idacadood oo ka hawlgala deegaanada Puntland kuwaasoo la sheegay inay jebiyeen amar uu maamulku dhowaan soo saaray. Shirka golaha wasiirada waxaa maanta gudoominayey madaxweynaha Puntland C/raxmaan Faroole iyadoo uu sidoo kale fadhiyey madaxweyne ku xigeenka C/samad Cali Shire. Wasiirka warfaafinta Puntland Caydiid ayaa keenay shirka arrinta saddexda idaacadood ee kala ah; Radio Daljir, Codka Nabadda iyo One Nation Radio oo ka hawlgala magaalooyinka Puntland kuwaasoo uu wasiirku sheegay inay weli baahiyaan idaacado ay mamnuuceen dhageysigooda. Wasaaradda warfaafinta Puntland ayaa 15-kii bishii dhammaatay soo saartay amar ay ku fareyso idaacadaha ku yaalla gudaha Puntland inaaney baahin karin saddex idaacadood oo kala ah; Radio Bar-Kulan oo ay Qaramada Midoobay taageerto, Radio Ergo oo arrimaha bani’aadanimada ka hadla ayna leedahay Qaramada Midoobay iyo Radio Hirad oo ah barnaamij ay leedahay hay’adda Free Press Unlimited oo laga leeyahay dalka Holland balse xarun ku leh magaalada Hargeysa. Idaacadahaasi la joojiyey ayaa waxay sii dhexmaraan oo dadku ka dhageystaan idaacadaha maxalliga ee ku yaalla magaalooyinka Puntland. HALKAN KA AKHRI AMARKA Amarkaasi ay soo saartay wasaaradda warfaafinta Puntland ayaa daba socday qoraal qabyo ah oo looga dalbanayey dhammaan warbaahinta inay lacago canshuur iyo diiwaangelin isugu jirta ay siiyaan maamulka Puntland. Hase yeeshee amarkaasi ayaan illaa hadda fulin. Madaxweyne Faroole oo amarsiiyey wasiirkiisa warfaafinta Wasiirka Warfaafinta Puntland Maxamuud Caydiid Dirir. Sida ilo wareed aan rabin inaan xigano magaciisa uu u sheegay Raxanreeb, wuxuu madaxweyne Faroole amray wasiirkiisa warfaafinta inuu deg deg u demiyo dhammaan idaacadaha lagu eedeeyay inay weli baahiyaan idaacadaha la mamnuucay. Waxaana caawa war naga soo gaaray wasiirka warfaafinta Puntland uu sheegayaa in wasiirku wado diyaarinta qoraal wareegto oo lagu deminayo saddex idaacadood ee kala ah Radio Daljir, Codka Nabadda iyo One Nation Radio. Sidoo kale mid ka mid ah taliyaasha booliska ee Boosaaso ayaa Raxanreeb telefoonka ugu sheegay in maanta la soo faray in marka amarka lagi deminayo idaacadahan maxalliga ah uu soo baxo uu fuliyo isla markaana uu hawada ka saaro idaacadaha xarumaha ku leh magaalada Boosaaso. Amaro noocaasi oo kale ayaa la gaarsiiyey gobollada kale ee maamulku ka arimiyo ee ay idaacaduhuna ku yaallaan ama xafiisyada ku leeyihiin. Doodan golaha wasiirada maanta ka yeesheen idaacadaha maxalliga ahg ee ka hawkgala gobolka ayaa imaaneysa maalin ka dib markii la isku mariwaayey shir ay wada yeesheen xisbiga Horseed ee madaxweyne Faroole iyo xukuumadiisa dhisteen iyo xisbiyada kale, kaasoo looga hadlay hindise Faroole soo jeediyey oo ahaa in qodobada dastuurka cusub ee Puntland ku jira ee ku saabaan diiwaangelunta dadweynaha ee doorashada la bedelo. Taasoo axsaabtuna ay diideen isla markaana warbaahintu si weyn uga hadashay. HALKAN KA AKHRI KULANKA Malyuun Cali Xafiiska Wararka Nairobi

Carafaat;771679 wrote: 1. First you had Eyl and then Garacad fully under control of pirates. 2. Then there was Galgala controlled by Atam militias who couldnt be defeated by Puntland forces that withdrew. Atam took back control of Galgala. 3. Bosasso security out of control . And promonent Sheicks, tribal leaders, politicians assasinated. Latest assasinations was couple weeks back when one of the most prominent Sheicks of Bossaso was gunned down. 4. Lasanod joined Somaliland. 5. Buhoodle came under control of SSC militia. 6. Now the last SSC town under control of Puntland, Taleex, isnt controlled anymore by Puntland but by clan militia's. 7. Rascaseyr State is fact on the ground. Locals seem to be determined to establish their own State, seperate from Puntland. 8. Then you have the whole Galkacyo debacle of clan miliatia's attacking a neighbourhood. And golgodob folks in diaspora establishes its own State. What is left of Puntland? Did Puntland crumble, and it merely excist as online PR and spinning machine operated by Duke and likes? These development seem to have a sustainable character. Why arent Puntlanders discussing the causes and how to solve things, except for blaming all on Faroole? Cant be anything be done in the meantime, till there is new leadership? Or does all depend on the man in charge of the State? Its time to update this thread again. A lot has happened the last year.

Baashi, slight correction. Somaliland wants recongnition of its independence. Its Hassan Sheick who wants to bring all of Southern Somalia under his goverment including Puntland(or what is left of it, minus SSC, Makhir, Mudug) and then a form a Federal Union with Somaliland. Faroole knows that, see his nervous reaction when Dr.Gas was touring the region, hence why he announced elections in the hope of legitimizing his fiefdom, hence why Faroole is lately very carefull of attacking the Federal goverment and hence why Puntland desperately supports Jubbaland.

Another proof that Xiinfaniins Jubbaland is a treasonous project. Hope the Somali Goverment succeeds in taking the initiative back from Pirates and Kikuyus.

Las Canood wee iftiimisaa.

OdaySomali;936815 wrote: The wikipedia page has been edited and his ethnicity has now been changed to Nigerian. Someone is waging a wikipedia war against Somalis, because I have noticed a lot of history relating to Somalis has gradually been edited or deleted wikipedia page by page. One such example is the wikipedia page about the Somali millionaire who used to export coffee from Ethiopia, whose Wikipedia page has been completely deleted. OdaySomali, this is worrisome news. An e-holocoust against Somalis.

Safferz;936397 wrote: Great thread! Will have to download all of these in case they disappear That would be a disaster. Lets hope SOL will exist till the end of times.

Xamar ma waxa laga bilooway boobkii dhulka? Somaliland aad ayee ugu jirtay shekadaasi.

Odaygu walee Garowe aad ayuu u dhisay, maanshallah. Soon it will have its own Radio and TV station.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;936802 wrote: Reer Waqooyiga Ayrlaan been been kuma cafinaayaan islaantaan baqtisay. ___________________ Is that how you spell 'Ireland' in Somali?

Saacid Intervieuw with VOA on Jubbaland. http://puntlandi.com/dhagayso-wareysi-uu-raysal-wasaare-saacid-siiyey-voa-uuna-kaga-hadley-maamul-sameynta-jubaland/