http://laasqoray.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/110609-Kampala-Accord-signed.pdf Read the parameters of the Kampala agreements under section 4. Basicly the TFG/AMISOM donor funding is ends by 31st of august 2011. To get funding for its extended year till august 2012, they need to present results to the donors by 20st of August 2011, otherwise the donors wont extend anymore funding and this would mean the end of the TFG and of the AMISOM mission. I really dont want to sound negative of the recent succeses of the TFG/AMISOM, but I am afraid this is to get more money.

NASSIR;738938 wrote: burahadeer, From what I read in the past, all data of oil exploration and geological study point to Al Medo and Nogal basins as the most prospective. Berbera and other areas of potential oil and mineral deposits come not that significant. Read "The Irrelevance of Somaliland: One of Multiple entities emerging from the wreckage of Somalia". In it, you'll find a quoted article from the Petroleum Economist. http://www.wardheernews.com/Articles_08/Feb/29_somaliland_mohamed.html There are official reports, confirming the existence of vast reserves of oil deposits in Sool and Sanaag regions, from American multinational corporations such as Shell and Conoco that held contracts in these two regions before declaring force majeure. For instance, in an article, “Oil hopes hinges on North Somalia” published by the Petroleum Economist on 30 October 1990, states; “Results of analysis to date, which indicate that the region is definitely oil-prone as well as gas-prone, are to be presented at this month's meeting of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Eastern Hemisphere group, in London. Regional connoisseurs pick out northern Somalia as particularly prospective. Exploration here dates from the turn of the century and was conducted in the former colony of British Somaliland by British and Italian geologists. The area rewarded explorers with numerous oil seeps and oil and gas shows in wells drilled in the 1960s. It is geologically analogous, in parts, to southern Yemen, on the other side of the Gulf of Aden, and almost the entire area was under licence to companies by the time hostilities with the central government broke out in 1988.”

Somalia will soon become peacefull, Inshallah.

Hilarious thread.

So who will get to Kismayo first. Azania mise Jubbaland? I bet on Azania, Gaandhi is a smart man. He will let Jubba troops do all the fighting with Al Shabaab and soon as he gets his chance he will sneak in to Kismayo and crown himself with all the support of the local's.

Smart move by former President Riyaale. The creations of these new regions and districts couple years back gave a boost to the development of rural area's in Somaliland. It literaly put them on the map of diaspora, development organisations and goverment. Are there new regions to be created soon?

Burco and Salaxley have the most beauties. With nice natural caramel brown skin, small asian like eyes and small pointy nose.

MAXIMUS POWERS;315133 wrote: The internet is a democratic forum for self-expression but I can’t help but notice that SOL seems to limit this. I often find myself having to watch what I say for fear of being banned. This needs to stop and the moderators need to be more lenient on what can actually be said. I was on the politics section and found that people can be banned for simple things like name-calling and expressing extremist views; this distorts the purpose of the internet. If we can’t express our opinions, however extreme or crude where can we express it? SOL needs to move with the times; SOL is an internet extremist itself, for blocking alternative ideas and viewpoints. Can I also add that certain individuals also intimidate people from expressing their opinions! This is completely unacceptable. WE DEMAND YOU REMOVE YOUR CENSORSHIP RULES NOW! Interesting thread. Tend to agree.This forum used to have many interesting SOL'ers. Where they censored? Wonder where they all went?

Jacayl, 2016 ayaa ka nasan kartaa siyaasintan aad camerada la daba carartid.

Definelty Sambusa, quraac and timir at the same time.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;732525 wrote: Xamar - 1977 My best memories from Xamar are of the beach and the Indian Ocean. Never have I seen an ocean with so much character and attitude, each wave of this sea was unique and wild. We left Xamar after the Jazeera Massacre. I always wonder how it would feel to return to my Birth place If it would feel like sweet home coming or if Xamar defitenly lost its innosence.

Very interesting article. Gives a complete diffrent picture then the polished PR picture that we initially had. Farmaajo is basicly an amateur who made a lot of mistakes and basicly was doomed to fail.

The conclusion Always when things are going well the detractors of any government keep their heads down. Until the 12 December 2011 morning when Farmajo flew to Djibouti any opposition to his government was muted. Al-Shabab, the nemesis of Somalia too was on the run at least in the capital. They were losing ground to the national army and to AMISOM troops. Before the $300 million corruption accusations were made Sheikh Sharif and Farmajo were on the same side and Sharif Hassan who sought the ousting of Farmajo was scratching his head. It was these allegations which he used to convince Sheikh Sharif to side with him against Farmajo. During his short reign as Prime Minister of Somalia Farmajo made many enemies including leaders such as Meles Zenawi, Yoweri Museveni, UN representative Mahiga, President Sheikh Sharif, Speaker Sharif Hassan, Puntland President Abdirahman Farole and a number of former Ministers who turned against him for one reason or another. One of the reasons for Mahiga’s animosity towards Farmajo could be his hasty insistence to transfer Somalia’s air traffic control and revenue to the TFG. One must never rush things. One must also always finish first what is at hand, especially when an issue as important as the security of a nation is at stake. Responding to an invitation he received from President Ismail Omar Gheelle through his newly appointed Ambassador to Somalia, on 12 December 2011 morning Farmajo travelled to Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya. After his return from his travel nothing was ever the same. Having given his enemies the opening they need, by February 2011 the knives were out. By then, Farmajo had made many enemies within the TFG, the neighbors and the UN. Had he stayed the course and first saw the clearing of at least the capital from the Islamist menace the leaders of Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya he flew to meet in their capitals could have themselves come to visit Somalia. Farmajo was given a rare opportunity to fix his broken homeland. Such opportunities rarely come twice. Farmajo had a number of positive points such as goodwill and single-mindedness but among his short-comings was haste and not to tread carefully. The affairs of a failed nation are a political vipers’ nest. And there is a need for its leaders to arm themselves for the challenges of the task which would include the widening of scope of human resources in order to acquire the tools needed to do the job. It is never enough to surround with persons of acquaintance and friendship. It needs all the good men and women one can find to erect a nation in dire situation as Somalia. The regional and international involvement in the affairs of Somalia is an inconvenient truth which Farmajo should have known. The new PM Dr. Abdiwali Mohamed Ali, who takes over after him should know the issues and tread carefully. It is a case of sailing the boat through the waters it finds itself in no matter how troubled. The first task of the new PM is obviously to appoint his cabinet. He will need the support of all the Somali people. He should be careful not to commit the mistakes of his predecessor which saw his exit.* Abdi Mohamed Ali E-Mail:abdimoali2008@yahoo.ca ____________________

Somalia: What went wrong for Farmajo, the complete picture! **** By Abdi Mohamed Ali July 17, 2011 Before we look into what went awry for PM Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo, I agree with the Somali Artist Amin Amir who in one of his cartoons on his website, forewarned the new PM Dr. Abdiwali Mohamed Ali not to heed the pressure to appoint clan members to his cabinet. The established norm is not to appoint a clan member of either the President or the PM to the cabinet. Appointing a clan member from either of the leaders to the cabinet will be one setback Somalia can do without. The reason why a Minister from either of the two leaders’ clan should not be appointed is obvious. It will trigger a conflict of interest which will diminish and sap legitimacy and standing from the government. ************************************************************* _____________ On 31 October 2011 when Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo took office as Prime Minister of Somalia, there is no doubt he came to the task with enthusiasm. But, within a few months things began to fall apart. Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo must wonder why he was catapulted out of office within a mere 7 months in the job. So what went wrong? From 31 October - 12 December 2010 The job Farmajo’s government was doing the first 42 days made cause for optimism. Days before his departure to Djibouti on 12 December 2011, the successes on the battle field of Mogadishu with Al-Shabab Islamists made Farmajo declare his government’s intention to banish Al-Shabab from the capital and the regions within months. Wind in the sail Until that 12 December 2011 morning Farmajo had wind in his sail. Things were going his way. Why then dash to Djibouti? What could not wait? It was like a surgeon rushing out in the middle of the operation leaving the patient lying on the table before the job was done. However important his travel to Djibouti, it was never a priority. The visit should have been postponed and re-scheduled for at least after another three months.* Had he stayed on without distraction and interruption and had he not taken that flight on 12 December the outcome could have been different. It could have seen the driving of the Islamist Al-Shabab out of the capital and the regions they hold their inhabitants hostage. A rare momentum was let slip through the fingers Political momentums are very delicate, tricky and strangely mercurial. Like a jealous mistress a political momentum needs to be stuck with until a corner has been turned or the main road has been hit. Change anything in a momentum it could fall apart and fissile out altogether. And that is what happened in the middle of a rare momentum when Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo went on a visit to three nations beginning with Djibouti. Quarrel with Meles Zenawi over Puntland and Somaliland: a big mistake After Djibouti, Farmajo flew to Addis Ababa where he met with Meles Zenawi, the Ethiopian Prime Minister. The formation of the two self-administering regions of Somalia (Puntland and Somaliland) is not the fault of Ethiopia but the consequences of the collapse of Somalia. There was no point Farmajo to quarrel with Meles Zenawi over their existence. His encounter with Meles Zenawi unsettled the Ethiopian leader. He saw Farmajo someone who could make matters worse between Somalia and Ethiopia. The Puntland leader Abdirahman Farole later added to Meles Zenawi’s antipathy of Farmajo. The inconvenient truth of foreign involvement in the affairs of Somalia The Somali reader is forgiven to wonder what made Meles Zenawi his business how and who runs Somalia? The involvement of the affairs of Somalia is an inconvenient truth of a failed state. When one’s house falls apart and its inner walls are visible from outside it becomes the business of anybody: neighbor or afar. This is a reality which does not go away by aggravating it. What is needed is to work through the undergrowth of the situation of Somalia no matter how uncomfortable. Quarrel with the UN over air traffic control & revenue Somalia’s overpass air-traffic control has since 1993 been in the hands of the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) office in Nairobi. This office levies aviation overpass charges over the use of Somalia’s airspace which generates millions of US dollars annually which are kept by the UNDP. Many Somalis suspect that the UNDP uses statelessness Somalia as a cash machine to finance its hefty salaries. For instance the UN has not so far uttered one word of appeal for the millions of Somalis suffering not only from conflict but the worst drought in 60 years. Farmajo was hasty to raise the air control matter with the UN which made him many enemies in that organization. Farmajo’s quarrel over the transfer of air-traffic control and its revenue before establishing security looked to the UN like someone asking for the jacket before putting the shoes on. It made them see the Speaker’s opposition to Farmajo an irresistible music to their ears. Ahead of time (hasty) contracts with companies was a big mistake Somalia shall one day (especially, when the security issue is resolved) probably need hundreds if not thousands of companies doing reconstruction and all sorts of things to fix the country. But that day is not any time soon. Farmajo should have known priorities of the task. In no time after taking office his government was embroiled with awarding contracts to a number of companies.** In the middle of war before establishing peace and security when a new PM signs contracts with companies it doesn’t look good. The Somali people have grown suspicious of public affairs. They relate politics with corruption because they have seen too many officials who take money from the public. The allegation of “missing $300 million” put the two leaders together The allegation of “missing $300 million” may well be true but there is a time and place for everything. There was no need Farmajo to dish out such accusations which only put the two leaders together and no doubt accelerated his downfall. Farmajo probably did not realize the consequences of his accusation. Before the allegations about the missing $300 million were made Sheikh Sharif and Farmajo were on the same side. The accusation gave an opening for Sharif Hassan in his failed negotiations with Sheikh Sharif. It gave him the leverage he needed to convince Sheikh Sharif. Why the international community did not come to Farmajo’s aid The International Community cannot side with anyone in a feud of any government. In the TFG feud eventually they were convinced Farmajo whom they saw the source of the conflict to go in order the TFG to exist for another year. Another issue which made Farmajo enemies within the UN was his disagreement with them to see the transfer of Somalia’s air traffic control from the UNDP to his government. He should not have resigned: some argue Many Somalis who are disappointed with Farmajo over his handling of his resignation argue that he should not have resigned. When you say he could have been sent to prison; they argue it would have kept the cause alive. Was the award Farmajo accepted an honor or an insult: some wonder There are awards with a twist and some believe the award Farmajo accepted was an insult. Many Somalis argue Farmajo should not have accepted award from the leaders who humiliated him and threw him out. They argue it was an insult. One observer told me it was similar to in 1979 when some officials among them Omar Arteh during the Somali Socialist Party conference set out to trick President Siad Barre to accept a “Field Marshall” title. President Barre was shroud more than them lot who were behind the trick. He smelt treachery in the form of ridicule. He said thanks but no thanks and turned it down. He understood it as an insult. Shouldn’t Farmajo done same? You have to work with the present to reform the future One can only work through the prevalent conditions and circumstances of any situation. The tribally-based 4.5 ‘system’ is unfair and wrong for Somalia but it was what brought Farmajo to take power. Attacking the 4.5 itself does not solve the problem. One needs to get on with the task in order to create the environment which makes 4.5 obsolete.* What can be the biggest lesson for Farmajo: Avoid crisis at the top at any cost If you are head of any office invite or fuel any crisis at your peril. Allegations of any nature should wait one day to be investigated and verified. ____________________

Oday Somali is funny. He seems like a closet-Somalilander.

Xaaji, more then 16 initiatives to create a central goverment in Somalia have failed. But on the other hand iniatives to create local and regional structures have worked to creat some kind of governance on the ground. For example ICU in Moqadishu, Puntland, galmudug, xiin and xeeb, etc have worked to create stability and set-up local governance without any outside funding and support. Why not give decentralized or federal states a chance, so the state can be build up from bottem-up with reel grassroot support from the people in Somalia.

Founded by non others then Ismail en Abdi Ismail Samater, Cabdirizaaq Xaaji Xuseen, Jama Maxamed Qalib, Cismaan Kaluun and Maxamed Aden Jengali. Somali's need Grassroots movements build from the ground up with with deep involvement in the local communities. Not elitist diaspora caravan's headed by expired and ancient politicians living in self imposed excile in foreign lands, who still cant let go the idea of the (failed) centrist style goverment, which most Somali's detested. Even the structure of their party is comparable with the failed Socialist Party of Somalia, calling the Revolutainary council, the Core. However I think this iniatieve will be very popular amongst members of the diaspora and entertain folks abroad, but it wont make any diffrence on the ground. As long as these kind of folks are not ready to move to the country they desperately want to lead and leave their comfortable western life. Therefore as a serieuz political moment it is doomed to fail.

http://www.hiilqaran.org/hiilqarancharter.pdf MISSION We have seen a dictatorial and militaristic regime wreck our republic, massacre our people and destroy some of our urban centers. We have also witnessed, over the last two decades, warlords and sectarian politicians annihilate what was left of our national institutions and our sense of one people with a common destiny. In addition, we are witness to the efforts to pervert our sacred Islam and turn it into a brutal political instrument for a few. Finally, we have observed how our country has become political football for others at an enormous cost to our people. These experiences have convinced us, more than ever before, that the Somali people can no longer expect restorative relief sponsored and driven by others and, thus, must find efficacy. Ours, then, is a political party and a social movement guided by the collective conviction that the fate of the Somali people and our land is in the balance. This political party and social movement intends to create a voice and a force that will re-energize our people so as to establish a national political and civic order that reflects our democratic traditions and Somali/Islamic values. VISION The realization of a democratic and productive society based on Somali and Islamic Values, and inclusive national civic identity that will re-gain its diginified place among the nations of the world. COMMITMENT An unwavering dedication to serve our people and to NEVER exploit their vulnerabilities. Our devotion to justice and peace means that never again will the Somali government use its authority for sectarian political ends. We are devoted to work with all international and African democratic nations who subscribe to peaceful engagement and the pursuit of justice and freedom. ********** NAME - OBJECTS - HEAD OFFICE - DISTINCTIVE EMBLEM Art. I Name The name of our Party is Hiil Qaran: Soomaalinimo iyo Islaamnimo (HQSI) Art. 2 Objectives 1) The rescue of the Somali Republic from warlord, corrupt and sectarian/tribalist interests, and fanatical rule; and the establishment of a legitimate government and competent leadership that genuinely undertake challenging reconstructive tasks and serve our collective wellbeing; 2) The re-establishment of an accountable public system that respects the principles of our faith, the dignity of our people, and the integrity of our country; 3) The restoration of a just rule of law for our country and the reconciliation of our people through our Islamic values of just forgiveness; 4) The restitution of looted property to their rightful owners; 5) The establishment of a Truth Commission to air out significant grievances. Art. 3 GUIDING PRINCIPLES 1. A commitment to the Unity of an independent Somali Republic 2. A commitment to an inclusive citizenship that treats all Somalis equally without regard to genealogical or other minor cultural differences, and a tenacious opposition to political tribalism or other sectarian approaches. 3. A deep belief that Islam is the national religion; 4. A commitment to a peaceful political mobilization of our people and non-violent resolution of conflicts; 5. A commitment to a democratic and accountable system of government; 6. A commitment to freedom of association, expression and basic human right of the citizens 7. A commitment to tansformative yet sustainable development and improvement of quality of life of the population; 8. A commitment to the establishment of an effective national government with a decentralized system of provincial and local governments; 9. A commitment to an independent judiciary; 10. A commitment to a lean but highly competent cabinet (No more than 12) and a parliament of 151m 11. A commitment to merit based and professionally autonomous civil service system; 12. A commitment to the protection and efficient use of natural resources. 13. A commitment to the peaceful and just co-existence with Somalia’s neighbors and the world at large;

Your giving a particular clan to much credit. Where are all the other clans when al this is happening in their own country?

Every year an election. That will keep people bussy for most part of the year.

Indeed Liibaan they would love to.

Duke, this is deal (to come) is a good think. Peace has no loosers. wouldnt you agree? I think Somaliland would love to make peace with SSC and offer them some Ministerial posts.

The UK as whole is a dark and depressing place. Someone once told me that Iblays landen in the UK when he was coming to this world.

Why are Dutch children so happy? By Kathryn Westcott BBC News website Dutch children have been rated the most fortunate children in Europe. Their parents go out of their way to please them, and teachers expect less of them than some of their European counterparts. The Netherlands has come top of a league table for child well-being across 21 industrialised countries. The study by the UN children's organisation, Unicef, looked at relative poverty, educational and health standards, sexual behaviour and the children's relationship with friends and parents. "The Netherlands has always been a very child-centred society," says Paul Vangeert, professor of developmental psychology at the University of Groningen. "In particular, there is a lot of focus on young children." He says he is not surprised by the report. "On the one hand you have objective indicators in the report like health, income and education. The Netherlands is a very rich country. On the other hand, and perhaps more importantly, are the subjective indicators, young people's own subjective sense of well-being." CHILD WELL-BEING TABLE 1. Netherlands 2. Sweden 3. Denmark 4. Finland 5. Spain 6. Switzerland 7. Norway 8. Italy 9. Republic of Ireland 10. Belgium 11. Germany 12. Canada 13. Greece 14. Poland 15. Czech Republic 16. France 17. Portugal 18. Austria 19. Hungary 20. United States 21. United Kingdom Source: Unicef REPORT CATEGORIES Material well-being Family and peer relationships Health and safety Behaviour and risks Own sense of well-being [educational] Own sense of well-being [subjective] Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6360517.stm

Guess this city?