Faysal will organise the UCID General Assembly, another Chairmen of the party will be elected and then Faisal will handover the party. JB, do you know something else besides this?

muxuu shaqo ku laabta. War odayga 2 bilood ayaa uga horay pesionkiii.

Xaaji Xunjuf never demoted Udubland. In fact he supports it and has devoted a thread to it. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/53003-New-Mamuul-goboleed-in-Somalia-udubland

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/59080-Karkaar-autonomous-state-declared-in-qardho Sayid Somali, What is going in Qardho? And why are they declaring themselves autonomous from Puntland?

nothing new. Somali 'Embasies', TFG and TNG officials have been selling scholarships, diplomatic passports and even Visa's given to the delegation to the highest bidders. this practice has been going on for more then 20 years.

Xaaji, Somaliland can take the initiave to reconciale, facilitate dialogue and peace between groups in Somalia (even without reconsidering indepedance or getting recongnition). Siilaanyo could get the Nobel for such a bold move.

Dabrow, there is no genocide in Ethiopia. And this videoclib is no proof of that. It only proofs that certain groups in the diaspora are waging an online battle against Ethiopia. If these diaspora people would be sincere in their fight or struggle they would go their region and struggle for liberation.

I wouldnt call it a genocide, rather fund raising for ONLF.

I like the Sanaag/highland/bari accent. its like their singing, using diffrent tones. gacaliyoww, warr heedheh, seee thay.

Welcome abaayo, Narniah are you from Arzaniah?

well written article. I tend to agree with the author that Somali's are in dire need for leadership and one that can think outside the box. Wether it is leadership that can pacify the Somalia or recongition for Somaliland. Somalia is today in no condition to take that leading role. Therefor it is only logic that Somaliland takes that leading role and the initiative to pacify and reconciale the South and determine together with the Somalia its future relation, cooperation and status.

Some would call this a "youtube hit genocide".

How so? For one thing, Ethiopia’s recognition for the secession will attract no other country to follow Ethiopia’s footsteps. Does anyone in his or her right mind really think that the US and Britain and other world powers would reject the secession of Somaliland for 20 years, as their refusal to grant recognition clearly underlines, and then make U-turn and start supporting the secession because the Ethiopia’s Zenawi regime has opened the door for them? No sane person would entertain such fantasy. If anything, Ethiopia’s recognition would sink the secession beyond any hope. Since Ethiopia is known as the historic enemy of Somalia, no country that hasn’t recognized Somaliland already (and none has) would want to look so foolish as to unnecessarily take sides on enmity between two African countries, and support a secession that is clearly pushed and supported by Ethiopia. That means, if Ethiopia doesn’t recognize the secession, no one else would. If Ethiopia recognizes the secession, no one else would. In either case, the secession is dead and hopeless! Stating the facts is no animosity. And the facts are World powers have unanimously rejected the secession of Somaliland, as their refusal to recognize the territory clearly indicates. Therefore, if world powers are not pushing and supporting the secession as was the case of East Timor, Kosovo, and South Sudan, the secession is dead. Somaliland leaders and their foreign supporters sometimes mislead themselves, and mislead their electorate when they compare Somaliland’s case with that of Eritrea and South Sudan. True, there is a similarity between Somaliland and Eritrea and South Sudan, because all three regions seceded from three countries they used to be part of. But that is where the similarity ends. The critical difference that Somaliland leaders and their foreign supporters are forgetting or deliberately overlooking is that the independence of both Eritrea and South Sudan were granted by mother countries, Ethiopia and Sudan, respectively! President Omar Al-Bashir attended the inauguration of South Sudan’s independence, and so did Meles Zenawi, for the Eritrean independence. And so, if we go by the favoured comparison of equating Somaliland to the South Sudan and Eritrea, it becomes clear that Somaliland’s recognition by the world rests with Mogadishu! That is, if Mogadishu recognizes Somaliland’s secession, the rest of the world will quickly follow suit. If not, the secession would remain dead on its track. However, as the most ardent secessionists know, expecting Mogadishu to grant recognition to Somaliland’s secession is simply wishful thinking that goes on border of insanity. Thus pursuing this secessionist endeavour whose roads are all blocked is nothing but an exercise in futility! So the begging question becomes: --Would Somaliland leaders continue the March of Folly that is going nowhere? --Or will they redirect their energy and tenacity in order to benefit their region and their people, and yes to benefit all Somalis? Twenty years is sufficient for one to see the writing on the wall that the secession has failed. Somalia’s problems are getting more complex as days go by. In the days when the conflict was between Somalis, and Somalis alone could determine the outcome are now gone, for Mogadishu has now fallen into the grip of IGAD-warlords who benefit from the perpetuation of misery and chaos. We need to bring forth new ideas that are powerful enough to untangle and the south from the grip of the IGAD mafia. The time has also come to find a solution for the secession of the north, which in my view is the key for finding a lasting solution for the misery of the Somali people. What caused the secession of Somaliland? Naturally, Somalilanders did not secede because they hate the rest of Somalis. In fact, despite everything, Somaliness runs as deep there as it does in any other region of the country. In the struggle for independence and for the unity of the Somali people, they have done their fair share, if not more. Of the stars that illuminate the sky of Somali patriotism, Somalilanders from Farax Omaar to Sheikh Bashir, from Haji Adan Afqallooc to Tima Cadde, from Barkhad Cas to Hadraawi, are among the most prominent! The root cause of the secession was marginalization. And the resistance to marginalization led to victimization. There is a debate among Somalis about the depth of the marginalization, but there is no debate about the gravity of the victimization. Dealing with the marginalization of the north in a practical manner, will in my view go a long way in healing the wounds, and restoring the bond and the brotherhood between Somali nation’s two regions, the north and the south. Hargeisa as the New Capital, a way out of the abyss: The decision to secede was Somalilanders’. The decision to reconcile will be theirs as well. And it goes without saying that no one can force Somalilanders for something they do not want. However Somaliland leaders, its people and intellectuals are rational beings who can and do evaluate issues on their merit. And in light of the 20 years of non-recognition, a case can be made for Somalilanders to reconsider their decision to secede which to this day has gone nowhere. In 1960, when the two regions of Somali Republic were unified, it was understood and agreed upon that it was in the best interest of Somali people to make Mogadishu the capital of the new nation. Fifty years after the independence and after more than 20 years of hell and misery, the roles of the two regions and two cities are in stark contrast: Whereas Hargeisa is peaceful and prosperous; Mogadishu has become synonymous with misery, slaughter of the innocent, and chaos. It is not Mogadishu’s fault, of course, or the fault of its inhabitants, but it is the misfortune of the Somali people. Thus, if the Somali people are to be rescued, we have to establish a functioning government in a peaceful place where the efforts can bear some fruit. We have been trying to establish a functioning government in Mogadishu for over 20 years, but hasn’t work, not even once! The closest was during the Islamic Courts, but it wasn’t meant to be. The time has come to look else where for the sake of the Somali people. In politics as in where to locate any nation’s capital, nothing is written in stone. Crowning Hargeisa as the new capital of the Somali nation will be simply rewriting the Somali history, and will solve some of the most difficult issues that paralyzed country: 1. Marginalization of the North: The root cause for the secession of Somaliland was the marginalization. And Hargeisa having become the Seat of the Somali government, and the centre of the Somali politics, the marginalization and the need for the secession will go out of the window. When world ambassadors start arriving, and their embassies become scattered throughout Hargeisa and its suburbs, the new capital will become the seat of power and the centre of Somali universe. As a result, the secession would become obsolete word that even the most ardent secessionists wouldn’t dare uttering it, lest they become ridiculous and loonies. 2. SSC: The conflict in SSC will come to an abrupt end. When Hargeisa becomes the capital of the nation, it will have no need to maintain occupying forces in Laas Caanood. 3. AMISOM: The mere relocation of the nation’s capital to Hargeisa will make the African Mercenaries in Mogadishu irrelevant! As government ministers and leaders move to the peaceful city of Hargeisa, the mercenaries will have no one around to claim of protecting. The cash-cow that Somalia has become for the mercenaries, and for the IGAD-warlords will immediately dry up. Uganda’s warlord Museveni will have no other choice but evacuate his forces, while crying all the way to Kampala! 4. Al-Shabab: After the establishment of credible Somali government in Hargeisa, Al-Shabab will lay down their arms, willingly or otherwise. 5. Mogadishu: After the departure of the mercenaries, peace and stability will be restored in Mogadishu once again. And within short period of time, Somalia’s biggest city will reassert herself as the nation’s commerce and financial capital much like Toronto and Sydney of Australia. One single Somali reconciliation conference held in Hargeisa will be far more valuable and far more constructive, and far more productive than all the Somali conferences held in the past 20 years. In an interview he gave one of the Somaliland papers few years back, the esteemed Hadraawi said, “The unity of the Somali people is inevitable. But it will come when that unity is for the benefit of all Somali groups(clans), and at the expense of none!” One day, in the near future, the reconstruction of the Somali nation will start in earnest. In my view Hargeisa is the most suitable place to start from! Mohamed Heebaan E-Mail: mohamed19456@hotmail.com

Time to Reconstruct Somali Politics. By Mohamed Heebaan September 04, 2011 "The folly consists not in pursuit of a goal in ignorance of the obstacles, but in persistence in the pursuit despite accumulating evidence that the goal was unattainable.” The March of Folly by American historian Barbra Tuchman After the demise of the Somali government, the two regions of the country followed two divergent paths: --The North seceded and sought world recognition. --The South sought to rebuild and move on. Twenty years later, both regions not only failed to achieve their objectives, but the situation got worse in the past few years. Though the north has been peaceful for quite long time, in the last few years, there is a noticeable crack in the unity and the cohesiveness of Somaliland, as we can see from the conflict in SSC and from the floated idea of the Awdal statehood. As for the South, aside from the brief period of the Islamic Courts, the region has been going from bad to worse, year in and year out. For the sake of clarity, let us deal with the two regions one at the time and highlight the reasons behind the failure of each. The failure of the South: Background: Despite the ineptitude of Mogadishu warlords, the group responsible for the mayhem in the south more than anyone else, the south, nevertheless, has been trying to rebuild one-half of the Somali-house in an unstable, chaotic neighbourhood. But given the shaky foundation, not to mention winds and storms, the half-built Somali house kept falling apart the moment of its inauguration! After 20 years of failed reconciliation and failed rebuilding, southern Somalia has, in the end, fallen into the grip of blood-sucking mafia of Addis Ababa and Kampala club that see the perpetuation of the Somali mayhem as the best way for them to optimize their benefits! In other words, if southern Somalia becomes stable and manages to establish a functioning government, those who benefit from the chaos and instability namely IGAD-warlords Males Zenawi and Yoweri Museveni see themselves as the biggest losers. That IGAD warlords benefit from the misery of the Somali people there is no question about it. Few weeks ago, Mr. Museveni was handed $45 million dollars by the US for keeping his mercenary forces in Mogadishu, and Zenawi have received over hundreds of millions of dollars for taking charge of Somali affairs. Neither of the IGAD-Warlords would get or would have gotten one penny of those millions that are regularly poured into their coffers should peace and real stability are restored in southern Somalia. The Failure of the Secession: Somaliland has been relatively peaceful and far more prosperous than the chaotic South. Yet it failed in attaining its most prized goal: World recognition. The secession of Somaliland failed not for lack of effort, determination, or lack of resources, human or otherwise. If tenacity, commitment, and diligence would deliver a goal, Somaliland would have been recognized long ago. It is no pandering to state the facts. And the facts are Somalilanders are known for being tenacious, and generous to their causes. They are masters at marketing. Public Relations is their thing! Back in the days when Somali opposition groups were fighting against the Somali government, SNM was both the most powerful militarily, and the most resourceful politically. In terms of military strength, which other group had the means and the nerve to attack sprawling city like Burco and the Hargeisa metropolitan in a broad daylight, and come within inches of driving the government forces out?! Despite its huge initial successes, SNM in the end, could not hold on to its gains, and was eventually driven out. However, the battle of Hargeisa marked not only the turning point, but also the beginning of the end for Mr. Barre’s government. Having lost the bulk of its forces, and the best of its equipment in the fight against the SNM, within just two years, the centre could not hold. And Mr. Barre couldn’t even defend Mogadishu against the hastily trained, poorly equipped militias. And the rest, as the say, is history. SNM was also the most powerful group politically. While other Somali opposition groups hardly had any traction in international circles, SNM cadres and supporters knocked on all and every Western and international door; enlisted the services of every lobbyist they could find; and not only cut the US aid from the government, but also completely drained the regime’s political capital, and turned Mr. Barre, the one time friend and ally of the US, into an international pariah! I highlight all of this to underline that Somaliland’s failure to win recognition is not for lack of skill, or lack of effort. But simply this is an un-winnable issue! The Difficulty of Winning Recognition: Unless there is a mutual agreement between concerned parties to dissolve their union as was the case of India and Pakistan, Malaysia and Singapore, the Checks and Slovaks, and the states of the former Soviet Union, and other similar examples, gaining recognition for a secessionist territory is one of the most difficult goals to attain. The difficulty of attaining world recognition for a secessionist region has to do with the near unanimous antipathy of major powers against secessionist causes in part because either those powers had had a very bad experience with secession in the past or they are still struggling against secessionist forces in their own countries. For instance, America fought a civil war against the secession of the south, Britain has for decades fought against the IRA in Northern Ireland, France has the Basque, Spain has fought against ETA, Turkey has been fighting against Kurdistan, Russia against Chechnya, China against Muslim Uighers, India against the Kashmiris, and so forth. Thus, aside from the disintegration of the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, which both were supported by the west, in recent decades, only four territories, East Timor, Eritrea, Kosovo and South Sudan seceded and gained world recognition. But these four territories share two important characteristic: Their secession was/is wholeheartedly supported, if not actually engineered, by Western and world Powers. But even more importantly, aside from Kosovo, the secession of all other three territories was blessed by their mother countries: Indonesia, Ethiopia, and Sudan, respectively. If a territory secedes without the acquiescence of mother country, or clear support from world powers, its ambition seldom gets off the ground. Instead, overtime, that territory and its goals and ambitions tend to disappear into oblivion, as is the case of the Republic of Turkish Cypriots that seceded from Cyprus more than 30 years ago, and is recognized by Turkey, but no one else. If you have never heard of this republic, well, you are not alone! Another example is Western Sahara. When Spain gave up on its former colony, the Spanish Sahara, Morocco laid claim to the territory. However, Polisario the movement that fought for the liberation of this territory refused to join Morocco and declared its own independence. World powers sided with Morocco and regarded Western Sahara as secessionist territory, and as a result, it disappeared into oblivion. Losing the Bigger Picture: Sometimes governments and nations become so preoccupied and obsessed with the attainment of a certain goal that they end up losing the bigger picture. After its humiliating defeat at the hands of the Israelis in the six day war of 1967, Egyptian government of the day and its propagandists exaggerated the power of the Israelis by many folds. Mohamed Hassanein Heikal the editor of Al-Ahram newspaper, and a noted Jamal Abdel-Nasir propagandist claimed, for instance, that Egypt would need a nuclear bomb in order to cross the Bar-Lev line of defence on the Suez Canal! Therefore, crossing the Bar Lev line became one of the highest priorities for the Egyptian government and its military strategists. When the war of 1973 broke out, Egyptian forces, to the astonishment of everyone, crossed the Bar Lev line of defence, and poured into the Sinai Peninsula with remarkable speed! Unfortunately, either because the Egyptians lacked the means to extend the range of their air defences, or little preparation was made what do after the crossing, the Egyptian forces became sitting ducks on the other side of the Suez Canal, because the Egyptian air defences couldn’t go much further than that. (According to General Saad-Edin Shazly, the chief of staff of Egyptian armed forces during the war, and who reportedly quarrelled with president Anwar Sadat on war strategies, if the forces that crossed the Suez Canal attempted to move deep into Israel without proper air defences, Israeli air force would have literally slaughtered them. And hence, the hunkering down of the Egyptian forces on the other side of Suez Canal. And that not only prevented the Egyptian forces from going deep into Israel, but also enabled the Israelis to launch a relatively successful counter-offensive that took the wind out of the enormous success the Egyptian forces achieved in the early days of the war.) Nowadays, so much effort is made by Somaliland leaders and their supporters in order to gain recognition from Ethiopia, the only country with vested interests in the dismemberment of Somalia. However, because attaining recognition, at any cost, has become an obsession for Somaliland leaders, little in the form of debate is engaged to ascertain what effect recognition from Ethiopia would have on the secession. Would it help or hinder the secessionist cause? Contrary to the rosy picture entertained by hard-line secessionists, recognition by Ethiopia would sink the secessionist project into a deeper failure than it already is!

Ask djibsomali, he will tell you about the history of the ******** Ugaas. And how it went from Lughaya to Lafaciise.

Xaaji, yes the Ugaas is held by the reer Ugaas, but before this the Awdalite Ugaas came from the Lughaya section.

I didnt know that Xaaji. Is Garaad Jaamad Garaad Ismail the LasAnod Garaad or is he a Garowe Garaad?

http://www.burcoonline.com/view.php?id=1571 Somaliland Minister met with the khatuuma Committee in Yagoori

Xaaji is not up the goverment or politicians to intervere on clan matters. Its up to the Awdalies clan elders to decide who is the rightfull Ugaas. And up till now, the majority of the Awdal clans have not accepted the authority of Ugaas. To give you example on how difficult this issue is. President Silaanyo supports the Ugaas, his vice-President Seylici is against the Ugaas.:confused:

djibsomali, my words have been a bit cryptical as we can not use clan names. I was trying to explain that a section of Awdalites have not accepted the new crowned Ugaas and some of those think they have historicly more right for the throre of the Ugaas.

Good news for Faisal Ali Waraabe. He is back on his chair for the coming 3 months. Wonder who will lead UCID after Faisal.

Liibaan, what do you mean with "Gudiga Xoreynta Laas Caanood iyo SSC"? Is the same gudi as the one of khatuuma2? or another gudi?

Basicly a section of Awdalites crowned a new Ugaas (from the former historic Ugaas lineage) and this has created some challenge to the authority of the current Ugaas. And by marching from Jijiga to Borama the current Ugaas is reafirming his authority within the Awdalite community. Lafa ciise is home turf. Lets see if the Ugaas wil march up to Lughaya and unthrone the new Ugaas.

I just came acros this map. When you look at it you see that area's with lack of peace and governance, the famine has had a more severe impact. And regions as Somaliland which also have been hit by drought it did not result to famine. Now I ask myself is the famine in the Horn of Africa the corollary of the famine of peace and good governance? If so, this there something which one could learn from Somaliland?

Quite ironic how those reisiding in Ethiopia and Kenya think they are entitled to the city of Kismaayo. Only war, disaster and suffering will be the end result, just as in the '90. Havent people learned anything from history?