Dr_Osman;771904 wrote: 1 region cannot be a regional state or we will have 18 regional states. Hiiran is small region, it will need to deal with it and stop sobbing!!! what do you mean hiiran is populated war naga daa sheekada. Everyone in the government knows that farmed areas with rivers will have higher settlement rate then desert areas. But when we count your xoolo and i have 1991 statistics your lucky to have 1 million which proves you have no nomads and population is decided in nomads not settlements. Puntland alone 17 million livestock in 1991. Waqoyi galbeed 7 million. south central including banadir, shabelle, hiiran, galgaduud have 11 million livestock. Which proves when it comes to nomadic population puntland is triple what your pushing cause why else u have less livestock So you admit Hiiraan is more populated. But you argument is that Puntland has more livestock. Are animals allowed to vote in a future Somalia?

Oodweyne;771854 wrote: ^^^ :D The finest PR action at it's best; particularly, the kind that is needed when "an ugly story" needed to be buried for good. Or at least, make it out as if has been a giant misunderstanding... I really hope, whoever replace Iman Farole , at the helm of Pirate-land , will look your side of north america, in the hope of luring you away from your engineering day-job; so that, you could be his ever verbally-polishing one-man truth-buster, indeed.. Any Somali politician should hire PR cannons of LST and Duke's caliber. They are good in what they do. Siilanyo should beg them to come and ehlp with some PR. Maybe even sell Somaliweyn to Landers.

Indeed, Oodweyneh should appologize to the good Minister. The guy has done well.

Fierce lady. Future minister?

Lool

Xaaji Xunjuf;771681 wrote: Carafaat wants the blue flag as some sort of souvenir as he says it represents the 5 Somali territories /Countries Djibouti nfd Somalia O'gaden Somaliland. He wants Somalia to make its own Flag since this flag has a whole different meaning carafaat is up to Something else. Indeed Xaaji, Puntland, Azania, Al Shabaab, ONLF, Djibouti have their own flags. I want Sheick Shariif to also adopt his own flag. So we all can finally share the blue flag altogether.

Duke, how will it be solved? What kind of solutions were you thinking of? Care to share your thought? Some SOL'er even suggested to have a military leader rather then a civilian one.do you share tis thought?

XX, This thread isnt about Faroole. But about the serieuzness of the current situation and how a sustainable solution can be found.

The landlaw should be passed by Parliament and all land should be nationalised, to make an end to the Ponzi scheme on land. Somaliland has one of the highest land prices in Africa!

Che, its certainly not a wish of mine. I am just wondering why the core issue's and causes are not adressed, except for the usual 'kuli fitna Faroole' answer. Therefor I summed all those issue's in one thread to hightlight there is a structural problem and this needs to be adressed. If you think I am wishing for it, then I would have silenced about this like many others have and get back to business. But I dont, because i belief that silence is not the solution. Weather it its on Somaliland unilateral isolation towards Somalia, Somalia's changing wind, or Puntland's policy towards disenfrachised regions.

1. First you had Eyl and then Garacad fully under control of pirates. 2. Then there was Galgala controlled by Atam militias who couldnt be defeated by Puntland forces that withdrew. Atam took back control of Galgala. 3. Bosasso security out of control. And promonent Sheicks, tribal leaders, politicians assasinated. Latest assasinations was couple weeks back when one of the most prominent Sheicks of Bossaso was gunned down. 4. Lasanod joined Somaliland. 5. Buhoodle came under control of SSC militia. 6. Now the last SSC town under control of Puntland, Taleex, isnt controlled anymore by Puntland but by clan militia's. 7. Rascaseyr State is fact on the ground. Locals seem to be determined to establish their own State, seperate from Puntland. 8. Then you have the whole Galkacyo debacle of clan miliatia's attacking a neighbourhood. And golgodob folks in diaspora establishes its own State. What is left of Puntland? Did Puntland crumble, and it merely excist as online PR and spinning machine operated by Duke and likes? These development seem to have a sustainable character. Why arent Puntlanders discussing the causes and how to solve things, except for blaming all on Faroole? Cant be anything be done in the meantime, till there is new leadership? Or does all depend on the man in charge of the State?

I have been told by reliable sources, Ras Caseyr is reality on the ground not just an diaspora party as you want us to think. :Dd

Wtf, its excactly looks like the Somali Flag, But then much older. You think we copied it?

Will it change your opinion when you see the proof?

Beletweyn alone has more population then Bari and Karkaar together. Silly rules.

Duke, how come all those soldiers couldnt beat Atam or do something against Piracy?

Isnt Galgala and Rascaseyr in Bari as well.

I am glad Pirates and Al Shabaab have adopted their own flags lately.

Qandalawi;771609 wrote: Puntland has been doing well under the leadership of military men. Faroole has ruined every thing. General Ilkajir or General Ina Ali Shire for President. No democracy, no political partied and no more civilian President but Military rule. Yep, Military rule! You cant be serieuz? Did you forget that many in Puntland were fede up with Cade Muse, and Yeey befoire that. And ppl wanted someonme focusing on development, etc rather then Wars?

Another Galgala?

Interesting speech Saalax. Keep posting. Apparantly some dont want to share all the speeches, info and news from the Conference with SOL members.

I wonder what Xiin and other Punties think of Rascaseyr, sure they must have an opinion after all its much closer to home.

Xaaji Xunjuf;771281 wrote: carafaadoow calanka halkeed geyn dee Xaaji, the Europeans have the European flag next to their national flags. Imagine if a maffia in southern Italia would all alone claim the European flag? The blue Somali flag is shared by All Somali's in East Africa. Waali maha? Hadaa hal qolo calanka Umada Somaliyeed afduubato? Markaa waxan leeyahan calankan Djibnouti, Somaliland. Jigjiga. Ha laga taago.