Was it Galkacyo then? there so many assasinations of Clan Elders and Sheicks in Puntland, cant remember them all. You say its AL Shabaab? Many say its a domestic thing between the players. explain? why in Bosasso and Galkacyo and not in Garowe?

General Duke;777149 wrote: ^^^^lol. But the common thing here lad is the Somalia Republic flag is flaying from Bossaso to Mogadishu... Change is in the air, Mogadishu, Mogadishu, Mogadishu oh beloved Mogadishu... Indeed, I second that. except its not such a good week for Bosasso with all the weekly nasty assasinations. or what is it Galkacyo? what is your take on these mass assasination of elders in Puntland?

So, this is the reason why Duke, Xiinfaniin and Fiiqyare are so enthousiastic about Khaatumo State, its a new province of Puntland. they did it again. :D

General Duke;777147 wrote: PUNTLAND is only thinking about one thing at this moment. Oil, Oil and OIL . We are not attacking civilians, or our Suldans crying in public, forcing civilians to demonstrate unlike Berbera and so on...Come on son, don't open your mouth, least you embarrass yourself like the other secessionists. Strange reaction, Dukey. Normally you would be the first one to call it a WIN for Puntland. being modest aint your thing. are you hiding something? I smell a Puntland coupe.

How about West Puntland State? another State for Galkacyo, their flag is flying high.

What is the take of the fake Shababist on the assasinations, ?

Duke, Xiin, Fiiqyare and Taleexi all are enthousiastic. Could mean only one thing, PUNTLAND.

Somalia’s mini-state madness — meet West Puntland State LAS ANOD — Somalia’s largely disputed province of Mudug last week witnessed the declaration of a new semi-autonomous region within the Somali state after locals claimed they lost confidence with Puntland. During a colorful ceremony held in the central town of Galkayo, in Mudug, Suldan Jama Shire Gesod, a prominent clan leader, said their new federal state will be named West Puntland State. He claimed that communities in western parts of Puntland have became dissatisfied with the Garowe regime of Abdirahman Farole and decided to go their own separate way. The ceremony was guarded by security forces loyal to Yusuf Mohamed Abdulrahman who was declared the president of the new region. Furthermore they said they will soon hoist a new flag, name ministers and MPs. Leaders from Galmudug State, another semi-autonomous region which claims Galkayo as its administrative capital, were also present for the occasion. Tribal Chief Hassan Sheekh Ahmed said as Galmudug State they welcome the new semi-autonomous region which represents tribes in western parts of Puntland region. Other attendees included business leaders, religious figures, prominent clan leaders, former government officials and civilians. The idea to create West Puntland State was proposed by the ******** clan who felt marginalized under Garowe which is dominated by ********* clan. It is not the first time a region within the ********* dominated Puntland declared independence from Garowe. In April of 2011 members of Somalia’s Bari region consisting of civil servants and clan elders announced the formation of Rasa-Asayr State — it comprises of towns and villages near the old historical-coastal town of Bargal in the mountainous eastern Bari region. Puntland’s Police Commissioner, General Warsame Jama, said the intention of the new state was not clear but admitted Puntland state has disintegrated into three mini states after 13 years. He said Puntland was formed in 1998 by three communities but today they all went their own separate ways referring to Garowe or ********* clan, Galkayo (West Puntland State or ******** clan) and a new state declared in the disputed Sool region by *********** clan elders in Taleeh. Sool is disputed by Puntland region of Somalia and Somaliland and recently a new group calling itself G6 claimed it wants nothing to do with Puntland or Somaliland. Somaliland responded by saying it will not allow separatist groups such as G6 and SSC to destabilize its eastern states namely Sool and parts of Sanaag. Meanwhile Galmudug State has accused the weak transitional federal government (TFG) of interference in its internal affairs. Galmudug leader Mohamed Ahmed Alin claimed that President Sheikh Sharif was hosting a conference in Villa Somalia in Mogadishu designed to form a new semi-autonomous state within Galmudug. He said the interim leader wanted to break the historical port town of Hobyo from his administration. Hobyo is already a disputed town between Mareeg State, Himan and Heeb and Galmudug State. Since Somaliland withdraw a union with Somalia, the east African nation has been disintegrating into mini-tribal states which evidently today further disintegrating into even smaller administrations. This proofs that there is too much disharmony and trust among all Somali clans and each wants to rule his tiny town. Classified as a failed state, Somalia has not had a functioning central government for more than 20 years and has been wracked by fighting between various militias and mini-states. Somalilandpress Biggest English-Somali news portal Thursday, Jan 19, 2012

Before it was the PIS behind many of the killings, creating CIA mashruucs for them selves. I thaght it stopped with the new head of PIS. Most Puntlanders are mysteriously silent on this issue. So it becomes difficult to adress the causes.

Naxar Nugaaleed;776966 wrote: Second to Iman, she is the most well known Somali today. I thought thought was the question lol. and why do you ask, do have something against Ms Ali? Insulting the religion of more then one billion people and Profet Mohamed(SCW) and calling the prophet names that one never would even call anyone, spreading hate. Who wouldnt have anything against it, is the question. Even if you are an atheist, that doesnt give you the right to insult people and spread hate. Only a twisted, sick and hatefull person would have nothing against that.

Dervish, are you saying its a lie? So far Keyse Abdi Yusuf, Col Curi, the treasurer and the leader of the Khusuusi al joined the peace initiative. It would actually make sense for Xaglo to unite and join his crew.

Naxar Nugaaleed;776830 wrote: The sayid Nuraddin Farah Iman abdulmajid Ayaan hirsi ali Abdi Bile Abdi *everyone in the horn claims ahmed gurey Why Ayaan? Explain yourself.

Caawa waa jeudi soir.Dottore xadka ayuu ka baxay.

AsadSL;776945 wrote: What is somalia's support going to do? Wasnt somalia or block clans north and south support ssc clan cause since always? what did thier support do? Like i said thats all iirelevent. Where is Xaglotoosiye ayaa laga hadliyaa, adiguna wax aan lo jeedin oo block ayaa ka hadlisaa,

Duke, who is assasinating all these elders? I thought PIS stopped doing that?

Very Unfortuanate. Countless of clan elders, business men and religious leaders have been assasinated. And still Xiinfaniin, remains in shame silent while his clan, business and religios leaders are assasinated. Xiin rather chases Ngonge on his opinion of the Khaatumo Conference, hoping to get some applaus from Duke and other misguided Puntland PR spinners. How will they spinn this one?

xiinfaniin;776928 wrote: lool@longer lineage vs small lineage Carafaat you are very smart man, endowed with critical thinking outside of traditional nomadic ways I tell it like it is. I been to Bosasso and Garowe, and reality is that the smart one's are afraid and silent, just like you. What a pity, they could actually correct things only if they stood up. Suggest you stand up for the right things, Xiiny. We could pair up and correct them folks. What you say? I speak up against seccesion with my crew. You against the bad governance, wrong piratementality,countless lies and deceit, clannist behaviour towards the own ppl, etc?

AsadSL;776915 wrote: The garads brother even spoke today from hargisea. What did he say. Anyt weblink?

Abaayo Blue, you made JB's day. He likes to invoke emotional reactions. Dont give him that pleasure. U qosol uun.

A_Khadar;776886 wrote: Didn't know you also fall for the clan site's baaaaaaaaaaaaac.. Just making an observation on a significant development. If this news is true, and the leader and instigator of the SSC movement and political leader of Buhoodle indeed joined Somaliland, then one can not deny its impact. xiinfaniin;776890 wrote: A_Khadar, Carafaat waa mirihii oday NGONGE waxaana ku luuqeeyaa Jacaylbaro, marka let the little script run and update the fora Xiiny, I speak my mind and tell it like it is, even to my clan mates when they are wrong. Maybe you should consider as wel, telling misguided Puntlanders like Duke when they are wrong, could prevent another Galgala, west Puntland, Ras Caseyr, another assasinatio of a sheick or clan leader, piracy, or Maakhirians and SSC leaving Puntland in masses. But you remain in silent shame, enccourage even the bad ideas and smile like nothing is going on and it is business as usual. Hoping that one day a king will standup with longer lineage and more confident then small lineaged as yourself and safe the day. What a pity of those brains.

Ngonge's predicment is becoming reality.

xiinfaniin;776861 wrote: ^^No Puntlanders are by and large proud Somalis who believe the absence of strong Somali republic is not good for anyone Puntland politicians managed to kill every Somali central goverment so far. You would be critical if you cared.

NGONGE;776806 wrote: ^^ My hope is one borne out of verifaiable (incremental, as you like to call them) results. The twenty plus year that you use as some sort of evidence has been spent fortifying our position and building our state (does Khaatumo have twenty years?). Your hope is the result of a clan meeting where they elected what looks like three presidents. Cooks, adeer, way farabatiin. (ila guurmaan ku laha wax iga maqaal oo 'bet on a winning horse'? Wax maqal dee). Good point walee. And Khaatuma does not have a long time to work on their agenda. Cause next to building administration, "freeing" the land from Somaliland, they have been send on a development mission to build schools, colleges, build water wells, create jobs, etc. They cant work on all that and expect people to wait and see. Indeed people will run ouf of patience and leave the maamul as fast as they joined in the beginnning. Ngonge, ileyn siyasi baa tahay.

xiinfaniin;776795 wrote: In the near future, some cues of how things will have changed by Taleex will be in store for NGONGE. 1- London Conference & whether SL admin participates in it or not 2- Status of the city of Lasanod 3- Relationship between UN and Khatumo It is not 'kun fa yakuun' indeed; it will be gradual and incremental. Watch the 'skeleton' as it grows meet & muscle...just admit it as you see it and don't be xasid Dont think so. Political leverage yes. Actually becoming maamul, very unlikely. Your memory is dissapointing you. Remember what happened to Maakhir State, couple years ago similar initiative was launched with actual Ministerial posts. Nothing came out, except beesha gaining more influence in Garowe in the form of Gen Ilkajiir and clan efforts to defend their land from rivaling nomad clan. If you truly belief and support clan State's, then you would support: -Makhir Sttate -Raas Casyr state -West Puntland State -Qardho State All these maamul's were announced after Confernces held within Puntland. Nothing came so far out of it, except for some political leverage against the centre.

Allah ha u naxariiisto. Yet another Clan elder assasinated. Will the silence of the Puntlanders continue on these assasination? If the main cause is not adressed, I am afraid these assasinations wont just stop.