Dr.Osman, glad to have you on board of Somalia again. does this mean your flirtations with autonomy for Bari and Nugaal has come to and end, and you support the centralisation and a borderless Somalia?

Garnaqsi, the topic of this thread was why educated people leave their community. I pointed out that indeed being over educated might create a gap between one's career ambitions and his wishes to say, live and work within his community or country Somalia. But I think we are in agreement here.

Mintid, what is more important then his brand is to do whatever is in their interest of his people. that is why they elected him and not be 'principal'.

You think SL would give him assurance or he would risk his repution by confirming their attendence? Mintid, SL is going weather you like or not.

I dont even understand why you guys are bothering to discuss. I say lets wait till there is a real war, real emotions, real crying and we can discuss real issue's and real peace. I consider this all as orchestrated political theatre.

you need a oil law and and a goverment owned national oil company dealing with the foreign oil companies and at the same time collecting, expanding the local knowledge on the industry.

I will send you a PM. Tell me what use would an Phd research degree have on top of a second degree in the Somali context? where there is hardly any developed field or proffesional sector yet. we have there so many Universities, but hardly a technical or vocational institutions where people learn by doing. Somali's do love degree's and title's, but bro they are of no use in Somalia context. I lived there for 2 years, i can tell.

Ogaysiis Dhamaan Bulshadda Khaatumo Sate Iyo Soomaaliwaynta kale Ee Ku Dhaqan Wadanka Nederland Waxaa Lagu wargalinayaa Shirweyne Maalinata Sabtida Ah Ee Soo Socdo Iyo Utrecht overvutrecht. http://www.jidbaale.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2197:ogaysiis-dhamaan-bulshadda-khaatumo-sate-iyo-soomaaliwaynta-kale-ee-ku-dhaqan-wadanka-nederland-waxaa-lagu-wargalinayaa-shirweyne-maalinata-sabtida-ah-ee-soo-socdo-iyo-utrecht-overvutrecht Written by jidbaale.com Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:14 Waxaa dhamaan jaaliyada khaatumo State of Somaliya iyo dhamaan bulsho waynta Soomaaliyeed lagu wargalinayaa in uu dhici doono Sabtida soo socdo shir wayne lagu taageerayo isla markaana loogu dabaal dagayo maamulka cusub ee khaatumo State of Somaliya kaasoo ka dhacaya hoolka shirarka ee Utrecht overvutrecht. Hadaba waxaa laga codsanayaa dhamaan umada Soomaaliyeed in ay nagala soo qayb galaan maalinta Sabtida ah ee fooda inagu soo haysa hadii alle yiraahdo. Taariikhda shirku dhacayo waa 28-01-2012 Saacadu markay tahay 3:00pm ilaa 10:00pm Adaresku wa sidan hoos ku qoran. Amazzonedreef 40 – 3563CB Utrecht .lijn 6 vanaf Centraal Station Wixii faah faahina ee intaas dheer kala xidhiidh Telephoneka hoos ku qoran. 0684291464 0684683008 0647093202 Kasoo qayb galkiinu waa muhiim Jidbaale.com

Ngonge, maanta abtiyaasha wee iskuu kaa tageen oo wee ka xanaajieen. ha la yaabin dagaal ayee ku jiraan. and you know that in love and war, all is fair.

Nin-Yaaban, ninyahow hortay qolomaa tahay?

Garnaqsi, we need people who know practical proffesion, people who can actually bore a water well rather another doing researcher, assements. For example did you know there is only one marine pilot in the whole of Berbera port. Only one guy who can guide ships through dangerous or congested harbours? Tell me what use would a engineering Phd or mathematical Phd have in such an enviroment? I came across many degree holders in the region of diffrent fields that practically dont even exist yet. Let alone that we reached the phase that we actually want to do research, what use will it have if you cant even implement the outcomes nor have the capacity or skills?

wa alaikum salam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. jimce wacan y'all. what is new and what is good.

Allah ha u naxariisto

BOB;780235 wrote: I don't know about you lot but I don't know that many educated (properly educated..I'm talking about the whole 9 yards) who are decent enough to have a normal conversation with let alone have a positive impact on you. I've met a drunkard who had PHD in human science who was sick with qabiil. I've met mid kale oo aan garan kari waayay meel aan ku tiriyo sababtoo ah his name was Mohammed and he said he was a muslim yet he didn't say one good or positive thing about Islam the few days I've been talking to him and he was also PHD holder in veterinary microbiology but he was as Somali nationalist as any man or woman I've ever met and couple of others including mid ayeeyo ah oo sigaarka u cabeysa sida inuu daawo yahay...marka I'm sorry if I don't have a good thing to say about the few I've met but kolleey anigu waxaan u arkaa in kuwaasi ay wax macno leh Soomaaliya ama Soomaali ay kala maqneyn. mid aaminsan in diinta Islaamku tahay waxa dhibka keenay iyo mid aaminsan in Soomaaliya ay qabiilkiisu maamulaan simply because he thinks they're the most educated and ayeeyo aan xishooneyn oo lasoo taagan Soomaaliya gaalada halagu wareejiyo dumarna madaxweyne iyo prime minister waddanka halooga dhigo...trust me we're not missing out on anything when it comes to the so-called educated..let them leave and I hope they never come back as long as they're still confused about who they're and which side of the fence they stand. Peace, Love & Unity. Bob, you got a point there. its a piece of paper and it doesnt have a lot of meaning in the University called Life.

Abwaan;780147 wrote: Brother you could teach or educate others ee please do your PhD while you can! Maay-maaygana baro! You can do both. Abwaan, wallahi I dont see value of it. Universities in Somalia are mainly taught by first and second degree holders. And besides for such a small society we already have to many Phd holders and not enaugh practical do'ers.

Somalina, caadi ma tihid. Dhirta iyo xolaha waqooyi waa kal taqaana?

Dr Cali Khaliif Galaydh oo ah maskaxda ka dambaysa shirka Taleex ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in uu diyaar u yahay in uu wada hadal la galo maamulka isku magacaaba Somaliland ee dhibaatada joogtada ah ku haya shacabaka Laascaanood. Galaydh oo maanta (24.01.2012) ka hadlay magaalada Taleex ayaa sheegay in uu wax badan kala shacabka iyo maamulka Hargeysa sida adarteedna aysan dhuumanaynin balse ay diyaar u yihiin in wada hadal la galaan. Waxaan umalaynayaa dadkaa aynu wada dhalanay ee goboladaa u dhashay dhulka kama guurayaan annana kama guurayno Ilaahbaa iskeen baday,yeynaan inaku dhuumaalaysan,yeynaan inaku meel ay ragganimadu ku jirin laga doonin, ayuu yidhi Galaydh. Hadalka ka soo yeedhay Galaydh ayaa ku soo beegmay xili aad loo hadal hayo in maamulka Hargeysa uu doonayo wada hadalo uu la sameeyo beesha ***********, Wararka laga helayo xubnaha ku dhawdhaw odayasha G6 ayaa sheegaya in uu xidhiidh dhexmaray G6 iyo Faarax Macalin oo ah gudoomiye ku xigeenka baarlamaanka Kenya oo ku sugan magaalada Hargeysa. Faarax macalin dhawaan mar uu tagay Hargeysa ayuu sheegay in maamulka Siilaanyo looga baahan yahay in uu wada hadal la galo beesha ***********. Isimada beesha *********** ayaa diiday wada hadal dhxmara iyaga iyo maamulka Somaliland inta ay ciidamadiisu ku sugan yihiin dhulka beesha. Xiliga ay isimadu diideen wada hadalada ayaa ahayd horaantii 2004 balse ma kala cadda in ay Iismadu ogolaan doonaan in wada hadal lala furo maamulka xasuuqa joogtada ku haya maatada Laascaanood xiligan. Dad badan ayaa doonaya in maamulka Taleex lagaga dhawaaqay looga fadhiyo in uu si deg deg ah ku soo celiyo dhulka gacanta ugu jira maamulka Hargeysa. Hadalka ka soo yeedhay Galaydh ayaa ka hor imanaya doonista shacabka oo ah in awood la isaga kiciyo maleehsiyada haysata walina duulaanka ku ah gobolada SSC. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=war+somali+bodies+street&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=28613l35045l0l35098l30l24l3l3l3l0l150l1391l22.2l30l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=924&wrapid=tlif132765303932810&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=0mAiT4y-H8Sm0QXK6L3OCg#um=1&hl=nl&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=war+somalia+bodies+on+the+street&oq=war+somalia+bodies+on+the+street&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4325l8787l2l8947l11l11l0l2l0l0l105l541l6.3l9l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=56cde4d18fe5bd02&biw=1280&bih=924 This is what you call a War.

Qandalawi;780111 wrote: ^Its no surprise that Odwayne will not miss the opportunity to comment on such thread as this :D If this was about Siyadism/Sayidism? These men have long passed away and their regimes expired but if its about their clan as the thread seems to be then better luck mate, you have got to learn how to live with them as they have always been and will remain to have a dominant influence on Somali politics, business and economy, literature, military and what have you mate... so stop throwing this clan out of the window, they are not Kenyan or Ethiopians but Somalis like you. Qandalawi, read the thread again. It aint abous Siyad or his clan. Its about political ideology for some living outside Somalia to get a stronghold in Somalia and on Somali's. Its fact that strong hold of the previos regime mainly came from Somali's living outside Somalia itself.

Looool@ Parlemkii wuu fariistay

Che -Guevara;780331 wrote: ^Let's hope sees the humor in it but if I post some more and chat with blue, the man might think I am undermining him:-) Che, you know you are my most favourite Shabaabi belly dancer, who better can entertain a man in the battlefield or boost the moral, then you. Your little video is as entertaining as your enternal search for character and a satisfying jihadist.

There is war when people (from either side) cry for peace,pray for an endn,when women sings songs of suffering and the sweetnes of peace, when bodies are scattered around and are burrried in ananomous graves. But on the contrerary one seems to be calling for war, chearing for escalation, singing songs of victories. This aint war, wait till you see real war.

Oodweyneh, Indeed, a centralized State in Somalia is not feasable at the moment. In contrary most Somali's, even the die hard supporters of centralism, today are rallying for a dentralized or call it federal model with most power in the bottem of the governing model. Which is I think necessary and import for people's self-determination and for the stability of the country and eventually a strong base and foundation is important for people to give mandate to a central authority in the far future. I consider's Hiilqaran's vision of a centralized State therefor mostly as a vision rather then reality. Why I posted this thread is that to my suprise some people still believe in the old and failed ideology that one needs to polarize, distuingish and divide to form unity. And more suprising that many still dont see through it. And dont see the clanish and political intentions behind it. Causing reactions,so we end up in a vicieuz circle of dettachment rather then attachment, whish should have happened after all these decades. I blame also my people for they easly are tempted to prejadism perceptions of Somalia, not understanding the south and thinking someone from Ethiopia or Lascanood represent Somalia. I wish we should judge eachother more on case by case rather then futile attemds of characterisations of one another.

For other people to discuss. But the regime was based on vicious clannist ideology. Ilaahay ba ka wadanka ka saaray.

This thread aint about Siad Barre(AUN). This is about a systematic political ideology based on bullying certain clans, marginalizing others, cornering other clans, so another can become dominant clan in Somalia. while non of these clans(the bullied and the bullying) live in Somalia, they either live in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya.