Caano_geel, maxaa ugu diidisa ha qadato 50%. anigu kolay ogol baan ka ahay.

Mea culpa for my emotional remarks on Siyadism/Sayidism. Laakinse naga daaya qabyalada. qabyaladu waa uff.

NASSIR;782103 wrote: That's power play right there?? The Somali Regional Administration shows flexibility and independence of policy formulation and execution than either PL and SL wills or does, ma istiraahdeen. Or is this a new game by the Tigre regime? Nassir, Jigjiga is ruled by young ouf of the box thinking new political generation not comparable with the fossils from Hargeysa and Garowe.

What has he done specificly. could you explain?

Somalina;782011 wrote: Carafaat, Mogadishu cid walba ayaa joogta maanta; ka shaqeysata, ka beec mushtarta, ku nool, muslim iyo gaal, Somali iyo shisheeye. Everyone is welcome my friend. I am sure everyone is welcome. But I dont know if our friend Duke would dare to go, as he already fears South-Galkacyo, let alone Xamar.

Xaaji, I think Jigjiga would be an ideal place to negoitiate with Khaatumo. And jigjigans would be a ideal facilitating third party. What you think?

Aaliyyah;782069 wrote: The fact that many of you believe your one-clan state should take over another clan state is pure form of clannism iyo caqlixumo ee orda umada amaan siiya oo intina hanideeqdo...qabileste raba in uu dadka kale ku dhoho qabileste ba tahay sheeko soconeen Aaliyah, true that. All the Northern communities are tribalist minded. And often see no shame in that. We should change things.

NASSIR;782067 wrote: Carafaat, That is like telling or teaching one who was born in post-anarchic Somalia to disown his mother country or to never believe or invest in Somali unity since he or she has never seen a united and strong Somalia. But thank you once again. Sayidism won't come back to haunt Hargeisa if they come to grasp the value of peace. Nassir, wallaal, I have been to the region. And thinks are really not as tribal as they seem on SOL. Those people back there are looking for to come with new idea's and solutions, not another "kala guur" . Therefor I have always opposed the unilateral secession without the consent of all thhe communities. Atleast it should be a topic for discussion.

Taleexi;782071 wrote: If they don't show up. Khaatumo will represent them. No biggie. Taleexi, I wouldnt mind as long as the Northern dimension is represented. And this would be actually in line with the Somaliland thaught.

General Duke;782065 wrote: It's a lose, lose situation for the secessionists. If they go they will have eggs on their face. Since the meeting is for Somalia and they will be a state or province. If they ignore then they will be isolated even more. Like Faisal Waarabe stated, this failure is their own doing. For once I agree with you!

I used Guurti as a symbolic name, to emphasize its not political, wise members, long term int focussed. Women shouldd absultely be included and not just for sheer dressing. But the real active actors.

General Duke;781984 wrote: Mogadishu is the capital and it's closer to Garowe than Hargaysa. Duke, I am not sure if Xabashi's and their chearleaders are welcomed by folks in Muqdishu for years to come. Only one guy is allowed for the time of his mandate, and that is Abdiwali. And after august he will get the first airplane and run for his life. like yeey and sharmarke's son.

We dont exactly know what he meant. Maybe he supported Yeey's opposing candidate during elections or one of the many internal clan battles.

Mintid, I am curious what your perspective is on common issue's transcending borders. How to solve and govern them?

Some folks really have tendency to pre-occupy themselves with triviality and you have many of them in Somaliland. Rather discussing what kind of country they want to be and what they can expect from their leaders in terms of content, they rather pre-occupy themselves with if their highest diplomat and representitive can go to a meeting or not. Maalayacni.

Taleexi;781714 wrote: Federal government I'm for it up until our trust is restored. Waxaad u egtahay secessionist wax og, waxna ogol. Taleexi, it doesnt matter what I personally prefer. Most important is what is interest of our people. And then its quite logic one needs to compromise to make steds forward. Second, I am not a secessionist but born and raised in Muqdisho. And from a 'koonfurion' perspective, I would say that its time SL, SSC, Maakhir, Awdal,Puntland communities take some responsibility for the whole of Somalia. People from Southern Somalia need stability and time to rebuild trust, governance and dialogue after so many foriegn interventions(Amisom, unosom, ethiopia, kenia, al shabaab, etc). The south had to much focus from the int community, would be good if focus is shifted to north. But for that waqoyie communities need to stop bickering and use the momentum.

Most of them never lived in Sool, Snaag or Cayn. Its me like claiming villages frm Toghdheer cause sub-clan is from there. Pure form of unnecessary form of clannism.

Taleexi iyo Xaaji walee waad duceyseen. Laakinse ma reer waqooyi kaliye u duceyseen. Meeyeen Galmudugu, xiin en xeeb, rascasyer, western puntland, puntland iyo qaar badan oo kale ka ilooowdeen..

SNM intee ku aragtaa Showqi? Magacoodu maad ugu yeedhid? Badanka askarta cid walba wee leeyihiin, nin ugu sareeya ciidanka SOL waa reer SSC. The highest SSC milita leaders and military leaders joined Somaliland. This is not a clan war but a political one. The clan wars are over.

Dee fur threadkaas hada ku dagisid en xamasada ka saariso.

Taleexi, every Somali suffers from it. Many Puntlanders made also threads about why everyone hates Puntland. Looool

Taleexi, there will be a deal between Somaliland and Somalia's actors facilitated by the int community. And many from SL, SSC and Somalia wont like this deal. But it will be for the common good, we need to remember that.

Loool@ Suldaanka dhalimyarada. Xaaji, adigu maad eheen Suldaan?

Mintis, please see the thread about Common public goods. I am curious on your perspective. Because that is actually my starting point that we have common goods with our neighbours and we should think about governing of these common public goods.