that there are more old scripts then Osmaniya script.

she has a nice and soft vice. quite touching But she looks Somali, but her name is Olivia Rutazibwa?

Ngonge, I am not talking about those futile and trivial discussion and issue's between Waqooyi communities. I am talking about Somalia, Southern part to be specific. things are changing. Al Shabaab is definetly out of Moqdishu, Gedo and Beletweyn. And the big polarizations between communities seem to have ended. most people are ready for a compromise, governance and wada-deganaasho. nobody in south-Somalia who is calling for waging wars or blood thirsty. dagaal waan ka daalnay. laakinse you and your abtiyaal have issue, you need work them out. not good for Burco and Erigaco either.

there is also the ***** and Tumaal script. And in Borama they alsu used to have their own old script.

Somalia. things are changing, open your eyes. ya Ngonge.

Sifir, has outlined 5 diffrent strageties for Somaliland. Atleast they make it clear to everyone which line they choose.

it clearly shows the west orientated Borama-Hargeysa folks dominate the SL politics rather the eastern folks, who have the most interest in good relations, trade links and peace with Puntland and Somalia.

Carafaat;782149 wrote: Faisal Ali Warabe chairman of the Justice and Welfare Party of Somaliland (UCID) who spoke to reporters said that Somaliland government needed to adjust to the changing political outlook of Somalia. “ We have to adjust to the changes in politics around us so Somaliland does not collapse politically,” said Mr. Warabe. Faisal is a smart politicians who senses the changing political tide. And he is right.

Sheick Abdaal, isnt that were the famous ancestor of many Muqdishawi's is burried?

Somalia: 'Somaliland has no relations with int'l community' - Opposition 29 Jan 29, 2012 - 8:34:08 AM HARGEYSA, Somalia Jan 29 2012 (Garowe Online) – A prominent opposition party leader in the Somaliland government Faisal Ali Warabe who spoke to reporters said that Somaliland does not have good relations with the international community and the Somaliland government needed to adjust to the new Somalia, Radio Garowe reports. Faisal Ali Warabe chairman of the Justice and Welfare Party of Somaliland (UCID) who spoke to reporters said that Somaliland government needed to adjust to the changing political outlook of Somalia. “We have to adjust to the changes in politics around us so Somaliland does not collapse politically,” said Mr. Warabe. When asked about the international relations Somaliland has the opposition leader responded Somaliland has no real international relations with the international community. Mr. Warabe spoke about the upcoming meeting in UK, where different autonomous regions in Somalia and the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) of Somalia are invited to meet in London on the 23 of February. Mr. Warabe stated that if Somaliland attends the conference or not, is not important what is important that Somalia comes out of the meeting with a unified policy. According to reports Somaliland has been courted by many UK officials to join the different states in Somalia that are attending the meeting in which issues such as security, political process, and international cooperation will be discussed. Mr. Warabe who gave a 10 minute interview, spoke about the Puntland government, Somaliland’s neighbor to the east. Mr Warabe said, "Puntland is leading the Somali national politics. The TFG Prime Minister is from Puntland. Farole [Puntland President] is hosting a national conference in Garowe." Somaliland’s policies in the contested areas of Sool, Sanag, and Ayn have caused much controversy lately, resulting in protests and battles that led to many deaths in the contested areas. Somaliland also had problems in the region of Awdal which was a region of Somaliland for many years, recently declared itself as a state of Somalia. Somaliland, located in northwest Somalia, unilaterally declared independence from the rest of the country in 1991 but has not been recognized internationally. Somaliland and Puntland enjoy relative stability compared to the rest of the country. GAROWE ONLINE

I dont understand why Somaliland and its leaders rather visit Djibouti and talk with Djiboutian dictator Ismail Omar Gulleh, who doesnt recongnize Somaliland, tried to destroy the port of Berbera/Somaliland's economy and obviously profited from Somaliland/Somalia's misfortunes. Then talk with Sheick Shariif of Somalia or why Puntland is potrayed as an enemy while goods and people can freely enter between Sland and Pland, and Djibouti clearly obstructs people while transitting the country. Clearly. There is no logic in that. I call it double standards.

melodramatic only cause you remind me of the better dramatic works that exaggerated plot and characters

I think it would be a good idea to have a strategic alliance between Berbera and Bosasso, Qardho and Sheick seem to have many similarities as well. the Mainports to Africa. Antwerp and Rotterdam have the two biggest ports of Europe and they are located less then 100 km from eachother. the strategic alliance made sure their two ports dominate the region and compliment eachother.

Global Publuc Goods, how about Somali Public Goods? Global public goods are aspects of development that reach across borders: Examples include the environment, public health, int security,food markets international trade and financial infrastructure. Actions are often needed that extend beyond what market systems or individual countries can do on their own If you look at the Somali context what could be Public Goods that is shared, cant be managed by individual country? -the sea and marine resources -trade -clan conflicts, clan relations and peace between clans and people's -Somali language -livestock and enviroment(deegaan) - movement of people or migration -religious movements -culture Can you think of other Publuc Goods in the Somali context? Do you think we should find away to manage these public goods and what would be the best way or structure? Considering all the diffrent stakeholders andtheir diffrent status

Somali, Sifir is a former ambassador and foreign Minister of Somalia. go read some. Sifir has presented some strategical options for Somaliland without specifying what he favours, a real diplomat. I would choose for option B or E

ciyaal xaafad

Geedo-Jubba flag looks like another african flag. have seen it somewhere.

An open letter from Ambassador Mahamed Jamac 'Sifir' Some Preliminary thoughts on responses to the Taleex and London conferences. What are the purposes of the two conferences? How should the Government of Somaliland respond? The Taleex conference: The Taleex Conference highlighted a challenge Somaliland faced through most of the last twenty years: the perception and reality of Somaliland as an *****/SNM Project, and the reservation and opposition of non-***** communities particularly the two subclans in Eastern part of Somaliland and some of the Diaspora from Boramo district/ Awdal region. The Taleex conference is also part of a new Somali phenomenon: substitution of clan-based factions that sought to take control of the central authority in order to control both domestic resources and external aid with lineage-based cliques with territorial ambitions. But like the factions, they seek a role in the UN-sponsored road map and a share in the new FG and its parliament. The London Conference: The London conference similarly highlights the international reservations and unwillingness to endorse Somalilands unilateral separation. The British and other western countries want Somaliland to join the current road map and plans for replacing the TFG. The invitation is also an acknowledgement that Somalilands absence weakens the efforts of the international community to find a lasting solution to the collapse of the state. The Taleex conference proclaimed the establishment of the Khatumo state of Somalia. Indoing so, the organizers and participants of the conference have rejected that the Dolbahante subclan are part of the Somaliland or Puntland. The organizers and participants included groups that were among the founders of Somaliland and Puntland, but concluded that the establishment of their own state is politically more advantageous and enhances the role and opportunities of their leaders in the new federal government. The Khatumo state and its organizers and supporters have chosen to confront Somaliland. Both Somaliland and Puntland formally incorporates the Dolbahante communities in their political and government institutions. Puntland is willing to shift its territorial dispute and contest for the control of the the Dolbahante districts to Khatumo. It will continue to formally claim Dolbahante as part of the Puntland subclans. The Taleex conference therefore puts Somaliland and Khatumo state on a collusion course. This has already triggered violent confrontations in Bohoodle between Somaliland forces and militia of the clans supporting Khatumo. An agenda and a strategy for action The two conferences both pose threats to the legitimacy of Somaliland. The outcome of the Taleex conference poses immediate threats to the security of Somaliland while the outcome of the London Conference could undermine the legitimacy and long-term stability of Somaliland. The two conferences create conditions similar to those in the rest of Somalia and will therefore undermine Somaliland successful resistance to the Shababled Insurgency. Greater instability in Somaliland will increase the risks of external counter-terrorist intervention and justification for unilateral interventions. Hence, the two Conferences constitute serious challenges to the immediate security and stability of Somaliland and its goal of independence. The Somaliland Government must act and act strategically to confront and neutralize the threats and develop strategies for dealing with the new political environment in a manner that recognizes the radical changes in the regional and international conditions. The leaders can not afford to remain aloof from developments in Somalia and the region and the growing international determination to confront the threats of piracy and terrorism that the collapse of the State in Somalia represents. Somaliland needs to prevent the escalation of the strife. It also needs to safeguard the democratic achievements of its people while acknowledging the challenges to the security and stability of Somaliland and Somalia are intricately connected. . What are the strategic options of Somaliland? Somaliland and its leaders must choose among several options. Option A: Stay the course - mobilize forces and the public to confront and defeat the plans for the establishment of the Khatumo; - Decline to attend the London Conference and restate Somalilands position: Somalilands independence is irreversible and Somaliland will only enter into a relationship with Somalia as two separate and sovereign states; Option B: Pursue no unity, no recognition path, - attend the London conference and seek international support for Somalilands security and reconstruction and international support to limit the hostilities with Khatumo State; - Present concept paper to the conference on prerequisites and strategies for security and reconstruction in Somaliland. - Organize an inter-clan conference of all Somaliland communities along the Boramo- Burao model and ask the conference to reaffirm or modify Somaliland independence. Option C: Join the process but insist on impendence and present Somalilands election plans for local government councils and parliament and seek international endorsement for these elections as part of parallel transition in Somaliland and Somalia. Option D: Join the process - Propose interim joint arrangements cooperation with Somalia and the possibility of a reunification after an internationally-sponsored coordinated transitional process; Option E: Seek immediate long-term solution - Acknowledge and accept Khatumo state and seek dialogue between Dolbahanta supporters of Somaliland and Khatumo; and Join the road map and seek revisions to the transition in conformity with Somaliland constitution: - Propose a confederation with or without Khatumo Mohamud Jama(Sifir) January 28, 2012 New York, Jama11432@Yahoo.co.UK

But hasnt Faroole printed fake money as well, when he was a Minister? and didnt Yeey and Cade Muuse wage war? Yeey and Jama Ali Jama? Have they appologized?

we definetly need a common foreign policy strategy. there seems to be a momentum.

NASSIR;782126 wrote: Saxib, The solution lies not in either multilateral or unilateral secession. We can at least come to terms with federalism as a temporary solution. Our homogenous society can't be locked in voilence and fierce competition and therefore remain stateless indefinately. We can spark new ideas to build the mechanism in which society's resources can best be allocated. There needs to be initiated some efforts to close the distrust gap and to build consensus among us. I don't have my eyes set on the regions of Sool and Sanaag or Hargeisa but on jubooyinka and fertile regions. I hear and respond to the call of duty to keep the nation unified and strong. Agreed. Aniguna waxaan indha indheeya Marka. But Nassir, for us to have an opportunity in Somalia, we need to de-trabilize and de-clanize the North. For their own good and the common interest.

jaw, qof islahadliya ma la mooda?

I have supported SSC/Khaatumo from the beginning and therefor I will support Saaxilland as well. Only if we can change the name to Badacas. And I suggest Saaxil should negoitiate with Somaliland soon after its secesssion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saaxil http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/28705-Saaxil-the-6th-region-of-Somaliland?highlight=Saaxil+region

maxaa ku diiday heestii calanka ee AUN Abdillahi Qarshe?