MoonLight1;782460 wrote: Carafaat who is this writer, is he the great Cigaal's son. yes, he is.

Instead, the Silanyo administration should attend the conference with the aim of telling truth to power and challenging the international community to honestly address why the Somali state collapsed in the aftermath of the Siyad Barre dictatorship and in doing so return ownership of the process of reconciliation and establishment of a new, 21st century rationale for the state to the people of Somalia. Somaliland has unique experience of this type of genuine, grass-root, democratic peace making and reconciliation rooted in local culture, traditions and religious faith. The Borama Conference of 1992, which laid the foundations for the re-emergence of Somaliland as a peaceful, democratic and free republic lasted for over four months, was rooted in local culture and history, ensured that all sections and groups within society, including those historically not accorded a voice, were represented and were heard. In addition, this conference called upon the skills, experience and knowledge of those from the Diaspora as equal citizens and not as fortune or position-seeking carpetbaggers. The representatives/participants at this conference included clan elders and leaders, traditional Sultans, intellectuals and poets, business people, professionals, e.g. doctors and lawyers, politicians and civil society leaders.

A_Khadar;782452 wrote: ^^ He is the last standing one to defend the project, the one before him who vacated his spot was NG. A_Khadar, are you drawing conclusions on an entire clan?

MoonLight1;782350 wrote: Xaaji, I think Morgan just want to claim back his villa, whats wrong with that? Villa MOOORGAN Unicef office?

no, its not me Xaaji. Moonlight, they cant lynch me. Cause their my cousins and I love them, want the best for them.

xiinfaniin;782420 wrote: Minneapolis folks from Minneapolis celebrate every clan's dhuuso. Cant take them to serieuz.

The world may ignore Somaliland’s right to recover its sovereignty, but we have the solution to our brothers’ troubles, and we stand ready with an open hand to offer it, if you will let us. The prolonged misery of Somalia and Somaliland’s continued prodigality are linked and both the result of the lack of imagination and creativity on the part of the international community, which has for too long consigned the ‘Somali issue’ to the back burner. If the world is now serious about finding a solution for the problems of the Somali people of the Horn of Africa, then it should open not only its heart, but also its mind and its ears, because Somaliland has been shouting the solution for years with to deaf ears. Somaliland’s attendance of the London Conference must challenge the status quo not only with respect to its own situation, but also with respect to the situation in Somalia. Somaliland, as the first post-irredentist Somali nation-state, must deliver this message and deliver it emphatically. Who knows, forcing the world to properly address the ‘Somali Issue’ may just save the conference and save the credibility of Albion. Ahmed M.I. Egal

Succeeding generations of young Somalis, which have been robbed of any and all opportunity for betterment while observing both their own misery and the changing world around them are no longer inspired by dreams of Greater Somalia. The call to their political loyalty is to their sub-clan and the call to their faith is to a medieval nihilism masquerading as Islam. They demand a life and the chance for betterment now and a faith that connects them to humanity and human progress, not one that not only denies it, but cuts them off from it in the name of piety. The lucky few that can muster the necessary payments, vote with their feet and join the millions of illegal migrants that are preyed upon by human traffickers each year, while the unlucky are forced to choose between death, beggary and fighting for one side or the other in the interminable war that has come to define Somalia. This conference will, as did all of its predecessors, focus upon the symptoms of Somalia’s malaise, i.e. the anarchy, lack of governance, corruption of the self-serving and self-appointed leadership, the nihilist menace of Al-Shabaab and maritime piracy, without ever addressing the root cause of the disease. Addressing the root cause of the disease requires asking the question: In the absence of the irredentist dream, what is the basis for the existence of a Somali state, and on what terms will the people of Somalia, particularly the young, accord to such a state their political consent? This question cannot be sensibly or productively debated and concluded in a couple days at a swank conference hall in London by unelected and unrepresentative Somali ‘politicians’ in the pay of the UN, senior representatives of the foreign donors (however well intentioned), and senior members of the international aid nomenclature. These questions can only be sensibly and productively debated and concluded by the people of Somalia through their genuine, indigenous socio-political and cultural leadership. Such a genuine, grass-root, Somali-owned process does not lend itself readily to Western notions and perceptions of structured political debate and negotiation. Rather, it harks back to traditional Somali culture of clan meetings, dispute settlement and peacemaking under the galool tree that has endured for hundreds of years. These meetings and discussions are open to all, although respect and deference is afforded to the elders, however to quote a Somali adage pertaining to such meetings, participants are urged to “daa’ ha raadininee, dunta raadiya”, or seek and follow wisdom, not longevity. To return to the issue of Somaliland’s attendance of the London conference, it is accepted wisdom among most Somalilanders, that attendance should be rebuffed. This is largely an emotional, knee-jerk reaction to the arrogance/ignorance of Britain in referring to the country as a region of Somalia and then exerting strong pressure for attendance upon the Silanyo regime, which it has successfully inveigled into attending previous meetings for Somalia to Silanyo’s domestic political cost. The overwhelming majority of Somaliland citizens, and especially the young who have much less attachment to Britain and no fond memories of the relatively benign colonial protectorate administration, would like their government to cock a snoot at Albion’s perfidy and shun attendance. However, this would be a mistake since an emotional response to another’s slight (intentional or otherwise), while often satisfying, is rarely wise and almost never in one’s long term self interest. Instead, the Silanyo administration should attend the conference with the aim of telling truth to power and challenging the international community to honestly address why the Somali state collapsed in the aftermath of the Siyad Barre dictatorship and in doing so return ownership of the process of reconciliation and establishment of a new, 21st century rationale for the state to the people of Somalia. Somaliland has unique experience of this type of genuine, grass-root, democratic peace making and reconciliation rooted in local culture, traditions and religious faith. The Borama Conference of 1992, which laid the foundations for the re-emergence of Somaliland as a peaceful, democratic and free republic lasted for over four months, was rooted in local culture and history, ensured that all sections and groups within society, including those historically not accorded a voice, were represented and were heard. In addition, this conference called upon the skills, experience and knowledge of those from the Diaspora as equal citizens and not as fortune or position-seeking carpetbaggers. The representatives/participants at this conference included clan elders and leaders, traditional Sultans, intellectuals and poets, business people, professionals, e.g. doctors and lawyers, politicians and civil society leaders. The conference had no formal agenda, but everyone knew that the central topic of discussion was the terms upon which the people of this country were prepared to live together in peace and fraternity in a post-dictatorship, post-irredentist future. The first item that was agreed, which set the tone and stage for the subsequent reconciliation and agreement to form a representative government, was that all previous political and clan disputes between the peoples and clans of Somaliland, whether rooted in the defunct dictatorship or in the subsequent liberation war, were null and void, were consigned to history and that it was ‘xaraam’, i.e. a sin, to ever raise them again. The people of Somaliland have a lot to offer in assisting the international community in developing a workable road map for genuine reconciliation in Somalia, and they are prepared put this experience, expertise and their good offices as an honest broker between the warring parties on the table. However, the international community has to come to the realisation that the continued failures of its efforts towards re-establishing a viable Somali state over the last two decades are neither accidental nor due to any bad luck or lack of effort. Rather, they have been doomed to failure because they have sought to paper over the cracks of a political edifice that cannot be resurrected because its very foundation has disappeared. Somaliland’s willingness to play the role of peace broker, impartial adjudicator and host of the reconciliation process for its brothers to the south is genuine and heartfelt. Equally, its commitment to its sovereignty and independence is unconditional and also genuine and is not subject to question or debate by others. Somaliland won back its independence and freedom at the barrel of a gun, after a long war, and with the precious blood and treasure of its people. Somaliland’s freedom and recovery of its sovereignty was neither negotiated at a conference table nor granted by fiat, and it will not be surrendered on any terms. International recognition may not come today, or this year, and the powers represented at the conference may choose to ignore the will of the people of Somaliland for as long as they wish, but this will neither deter them from their chosen destiny nor dismay them from their choice. It does not often come to pass that a leader is presented by history with a chance to represent the wishes of his people and the justice of their cause to the international community by issuing a challenge, so honest, so heartfelt and so rooted in the basic humanity shared by all peoples, that it marks a turning point in international diplomacy and modern history. Such a moment was presented to Emperor Haile Selassie at the League of Nations in 1936 and the challenge he issued to a world community dominated by European colonial powers on behalf of the Ethiopian people suffering under a brutal onslaught by fascist Italy, brought a destitute, backward and impoverished African country into the League as a charter member and changed the course of history. In 1974, Yasser Arafat went to the UN and said “today I come bearing an olive branch in one hand, and the freedom fighter’s gun in the other. Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand. I repeat, do not let the olive branch fall from my hand”, and the world never saw the struggle for Palestinian rights and the creation of a Palestinian state through the same prism again. President Silanyo has such an opportunity at the London conference. He must challenge the world to deny the self evident will of the people of Somaliland and their unique achievement of creating a democratic, post-irredentist Somali state, imperfect as it may be, adjacent to the longest-running failed state in modern history. He must point out that the denial of Somaliland’s rights and the continued consignment of the people of Somalia to a never-ending nightmare of anarchy, terrorism and war are two sides of the same coin. The Somali people have the ingenuity and the will to solve their seemingly intractable problems if provided by the international community with the means. The missing ingredient is the imagination and creativity to step back and let the Somalis do it for themselves. Somaliland’s message to the London conference is simple: if the definition of madness is repeating the same action again and again yet expecting a different result each time, then we are your sanity pill; ignore us at your peril.

Somaliland and the London Conference on Somalia Comments (51) By Ahmed M. I. Egal OPINION | TUESDAY, 24 January 2012 The upcoming London Conference on Somalia, and the UK’s urging of the Somaliland Government to attend, has understandably generated a lot of debate and comment within the Somaliland community, both within and outside the country. One of the stated objectives of the conference, according to Matt Baugh, Senior Representative for Somalia, is to “…reinforce the relative stability in areas of Somalia, such as Somaliland and Puntland and in the south…” This statement has, again understandably, aroused the ire of the people of Somaliland since they recovered their sovereignty from the erstwhile Republic of Somalia in 1991, and have steadfastly maintained their distance from the anarchy, state collapse and war that have engulfed Somalia ever since, despite repeated attempts (often involving violence, e.g. Al-Shabaab’s attacks in Hargeisa and upon expatriates in Somaliland) to drag them into this unending maelstrom. Somaliland and its people expected more from their former colonial protector, and it is either a reflection of the insensitivity of the current Foreign & Colonial Office to the aspirations of the people of Somaliland, or simply of their lack of knowledge of the politics of the Horn of Africa, that they refer to Somaliland as a region of Somalia, as Puntland is. The interpretation that many hard line, anti-Somaliland politicians within Somalia have given this British insensitivity or ignorance, is that the British have coerced the Somaliland Government to attend the conference as a regional authority, just like Puntland, Galmudug etc. Whatever the explanation for this impolitic language and it is likely to be a combination of all three outlined herein, the fact is that the British Government has put the Silanyo administration in a very difficult spot indeed. If they attend the conference, as they have stated they will, then they will reap the wrath of the vast majority of their people; if they don’t, and they may yet be forced to a volte face, then they will look weak and will reap the wrath of Albion through curtailment of aid and a downgrade of bilateral ties. Leaving aside the issue of Somaliland’s attendance for the moment, it is instructive to consider what this latest conference on Somalia is meant to achieve and the likelihood of it achieving its stated objectives, which have been set out as follows: • Security: sustainable funding for the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM), and support for Somali security and justice sectors • Political Process: agreement to what should succeed the transitional institutions in Mogadishu in August 2012 and the establishment of a Joint Financial Management Board • Local Stability: a coordinated international package of support to Somalia’s regions • Counter-terrorism: renewed commitment to tackle collectively the terrorist threat emanating from Somalia • Piracy: breaking the piracy business model • Humanitarian: renewed commitment to tackling Somalia’s humanitarian crisis • International coordination: agreement on improved international handling of Somalia issues This is quite a challenge and it is clear that no single conference can be expected to achieve these gargantuan goals, so we must question what the British Government actually hopes to achieve at this conference. According to Chris Allen, UK Deputy Ambassador to Ethiopia, more than 40 senior government officials and multilateral organizations, including French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, are expected to attend the conference. Clearly, Prime Minister David Cameron and Foreign Secretary William Hague have invested considerable political capital and much personal credibility in this conference. The fact is that there have been some 17 or 18 conferences (depending upon one’s criteria on what constitutes a conference) held to effect reconciliation and establish a credible, effective government for Somalia since 1991, including the latest one earlier this month in Garowe. All of these conferences can be said to have failed miserably since Somalia remains the very definition of a failed state with no central state authority in control of the country. Yet, the British Government has raised expectations internationally and within East Africa by hosting this conference and prevailing upon heads of state and government, the foreign donor community and the current Somali leadership, such as it is, to attend. On the face of it, given the near debacle of abject failure at the recent Garowe conference, which was only avoided by the UN acceding to the opposing demands of the two camps into which the participants divided regarding the basis upon which a future government of Somalia would be formed, the prospects for success seem rather dim. So what do the British have up their sleeve, as it were, that leads them to believe that this conference will bear the sweet fruit of success where all the others have failed? Firstly, they have been dangling the enticing carrot of increased international aid for ‘peaceful’ regions, which has resulted in a sudden proliferation of regional states announced by aspirant Diaspora would-be ‘leaders’ seeking their fleeting fifteen minutes of fame (or perhaps infamy might be a more apt term) on the world stage, or in this case, the London stage and a briefcase of money – courtesy of the foreign donors. This opportunistic gold rush of regional statehood has even infected the peaceful parts of the erstwhile Somali Republic, i.e. Somaliland and Puntland, with the recent moves to legitimise the dangerous, Diaspora-driven, political mischief-making disguised as Awdal State and Khaatumo 2. Thus, while the direct responsibility for the recent deaths of security personnel and civilians in Buhoodle in Somaliland can be laid at the door of the naked ambition and greed of the Somali Diaspora carpetbaggers seeking a place at the London conference, the British Government must accept its indirect, if unintentional, culpability. To quote a much misused political axiom of our times, actions have consequences. Secondly, with the support of the US and UN Security Council (UNSC), the British hope to revisit the agreement reached at Garowe wherein all things were promised to all parties. At Garowe, a further interim period of four years was agreed, during which Somalia would be ‘governed’ by a new interim government formed on the basis of the 4.5 clan model upon which the present TFG was formed. Thereafter, in 2016, a permanent government for Somalia will be formed based upon regional representation and not the 4.5 clan structure. The foreign donor community had intended that the Garowe conference would form the permanent government that has been pushed back four years, although any rational observer with knowledge of Somali history and politics, particularly during the period since the collapse of the Siyad Barre dictatorship, would have seen the chasm between these intentions and the hard reality on the ground. What, in effect, the foreign donors were attempting to effect was to construct the edifice of a permanent government upon quicksand, since the basis upon which a new Somali state was to be formed had not even been addressed. The London Conference seeks to revisit the political agreement on the formation of a permanent government for Somalia, because the issue was ducked at Garowe, and the prospect of another four years of anarchy and political stasis under yet another interim government is unpalatable to the foreign donors. However, since the core issues underlying the collapse of the Somali state have not been addressed and are not tabled to be addressed at the conference, it is destined to fail. These issues revolve around the rationale for the existence of the state itself, i.e. what is the underlying basis for political consent in Somalia? The rationale for the creation of the erstwhile Republic was the irredentist dream of Greater Somalia, and this dream has been consigned to the dustbin of history for a whole host of reasons, both internal and external, which are beyond the scope of this paper to delve into. However, despite the lingering passion of some Somalis for this mirage of the past, and the false, in-name-only adherence of some regional powers seeking to advance their own self interested, political calculations, this discredited and empty irredentism can no longer further the political aspirations and hopes for a better future of a new generation of Somalis.

Ali Dhimbil, smart man he is.

The following piece is part of our continuous coverage on the upcoming conference on Somalia in the British capital. Our policy of encouraging free and open discussion of the issues or presentations of all facts and opinions is always open to all regardless of view/political affiliation or beliefs. OPINION | JANUARY 26, 2012 By Ali Dhimbil “Burao” In politics anything could happen, I think already pressure is mounting on Somaliland these days regarding how to unify the whole country as one entity. Considering a major conference is going to take place in London, on mid February. Both Europe and the United States are sending high level delegations to Hargeisa, in order to persuade Somaliland to join the talks in a more positive manner, instead of being politically-isolated. So, I think anything could happen, and there may be possibilities that Somaliland may join Somalia after all. When we analyze the whole situation I think the agenda coming from Europe, the US and the UN is as follows: 1. They want to see a unified government in Somalia where both Somalia and Somaliland will have a fair share of a newly-formed central government. 2. Possibly Somaliland will be given the lead role to form the new government, in order to make them happy. 3. They might propose a new constitution which will pave the way for Somaliland to go its own separate way should it be displeased with the union, provided they should go through referendum. 4. Possibly within ten-to-twenty years time-frame, if the marriage of Somalia and Somaliland doesn’t work out, Somaliland will have the option of leaving the union. 5. The international community would provide billions of loans and grants to rebuild the new unified government, which hopefully will create a viable new state which will benefit all Somalis concerned. 5. Terrorist elements like Al Shabab and maritime pirates should be eradicated by the new unified government with the help of international community as soon as possible. I think these will be the main options that are already presented to both Somalia and Somaliland government. Already Somaliland government is discussing this scenario. Personally speaking, if these are what international government presenting to the Somaliland, I don’t really see it negative after all, rather may we should take, and give it a chance for a lasting peace in Somalia and Somaliland. After all, there’s no need to be so rigid about Somaliland, if you have a better deal. Ali Dhimbil ali.dh@hotmail.co.uk

Never mind. The rhetoric non-intellectual scribt and little content ayaan gartay, the Haatuf kind. P.S. Why havent you responded my earlier thread on Common Public Goods?

Mintid, and I really doubt if you belong to the noble Sulantan lineage. Cant belief that brave men Like Jamac Qaaliib, Buuba, current Min of Dec of Somalia, Sultan Abdiqadir and Faisal Waraabe, xaji Waraabe and you belong to the same family. You dont sound brave. Laga yaaba inaa abtiyashaa raacday, from the other side. That would make sense.

He has 807 followers on twittern make that 808.

The arrogance part of yours is obvious, you implied the Khatumo people are inferior and are not capable to have and manage their own state. If SL did it, what makes you think that Khatumo can't? Keep in mind this community is now more united than they have ever been. Sxb, dont give to much credit for beesha dhexe. Somaliland is and was the creation of many diffrent folks or clans. SNM cant claim it alone and they know that.

Ngonge, the days I feel like a Somalilander I am with your xisbi. like it or not. During my other Koonfurions days I am with Somalina's Xisbi. Che, xisbi uma baahna, xabsi ayuu rabaa.

no, but the situation in Somalia changed. -TFG period is ending, there is chance to influence how future goverment might look like and how it deals with SL. -Somalia will for the first time in 20 years engage in a effective process of nation building bottem-up. -This process has the best chance to work and will give SL opportunity to influence regional players. -We have a common enemy in Al Shabaab. -Somaliland is international recongnized as a goverment. -SSC and Makhirians have turned back on Puntland and ready to engage with SL, if they have certaintly about character of future Somaliland/Somalia relations. -We have showed the world we are stable enough -UK(our former protector ) is onboard. -And we have waited enough.

non-sense argument. are you talking about a clan with tribal lands or a country with borders. Xaaji, mar mar ayaa isku khalada Qabiilka iyo Qaranka. for you it means clearly the same.

NGONGE;782311 wrote: I understand your position and if it were PL that you have a dispute with, I would see why you would want the government to flex its muscles a bit. However, these problems are with people the SL government (no, YOU) consider fellow citizens. It would be a sad day in the history of SL if we go back to the days when the government bombards any dissenting voices and tries to shut them up by the power of the gun. Remember, you don't support SL because it has "borders to close" nor becuase it's the strongest bully in town. I am assuming you support SL for higher asperations and goals (democracy, freedom, justice, etc). None of these things could ever be achieved if we were trigger happy and always on the attack, saaxib. Well said, sxb. Clearly we belong to the same xisbi here.

Oodweyne;782307 wrote: ^^ Got your point. But, lets hope our democratic and electroral politics will favour the "hard-line-policy" in which many of us believe, is the only currency our enemies understand . In othetr words, lets hope the electroral ground will be sufficient of pulling force for the leadership, particularly in to the direction in which many of us, still, believe is the only "engagement" our enemies so singularly deserve from us in here; if you get my drift.. And risk to disfrenchise many Somalilanders.

Muj Cali Guray Oo Sheegay In Somaliland Fursad Weyni Ugu Jirto Ka Qaybgalka Shirka London, Gacan Ku Dhiigle Moorgan-na Ku Tilmaamay Fulay Dhagar Qabe Ah “Ninka Nabada Geesi Ku Ah Ayaa Dagaalkana Geesi Ku Ah, Moorgan Cida Uu U Hiiliyana Waxba Tari Maayo Cida Uu Ka Hiiliyona Waxba Yeeli Maayo Waayo Waa Fule 1988-Kii Markii SNM Soo Gashay 20,000 Ciidan Ah Ayuu Xukumayey Waana Ninkii Airport-Ka Isku Qaaday Ee Naanaysta Kula Baxay” Hargeysa, January 30, 2012 (Haatuf) – Afhayeenka xisbiga mucaaridka ah ee UDUB Cali Maxamed Yuusuf (Cali Guray) ayaa ka hadlay shirka kooxaha Somalia uga furmaya magaalada London bisha February ee socota, kaas oo sheegay in Somaliland ay fursad weyni ugu jirto ka qaybgalka shirkaasi, ayaa sidoo kale eedayn culus dusha u saaray Gacan ku dhiigle Maxamed Siciid Moorgan, kaas oo uu ku sifeeyey dhagarqabe aan hadalkiisu wax micno ah u samaynayn shacbiga Somaliland. Mujaahid Cali Guray waxa uu sidaas ku sheegay waraysi khaas ah oo uu xalay Wargeyska Haatuf khadka telefoonka ku siiyey, isla markaana kaga hadlay arimo door ah oo ay ka mid tahay dagaalada ka socda Magaalada Buuhoodle iyo ujeedada shirkii Taleex ay ka lahaayeen Cali Khaliif Galaydh iyo koox uu ku tilmaamay qurbo joog. Afhayeenka UDUB carabka ku dhuftay khilaafkii dhawaan soo kala dhexgalay musuuliyiinta xisbigaasi UDUB, isagoo Wasiiradii Rayaale ku eedeeyey inay qodobo ay hore ugu xidheen Musharaxa xisbiga UDUB inay markii danbe ka masuugeen, balse uu isagu markii hore-ba ka soo horjeeday in Musharaxa xisbigooda wakhtigan la doorto. Ugu horayna isaga oo ka jawaabay hadal ka soo yeedhay Taliyihii qaybta 26-aad ee dawladdii Macangaga ahayd ee Siyaad Barre waxa uu yidhi “Ninka nabada geesi ku ah ayaa dagaalkana geesi ku ah, Moorgan Cida uu u hiiliyana waxba tari maayo cida uu ka hiiliyona waxba yeeli maayo waayo waa Fule. 1988-kii markii SNM soo gashay 20,000 ciidan ah ayuu xukumayey oo taliyaha qaybta 26-aad ayuu ahaa waana ninkii isaga oo halkii uu dadka ku xidhxidhi jiray ku dhuumanaya loogu tagay subaxiina buurtaa Ina Naxar inta uu isku qaaday airport-ka naf xaraaradii tagay ee baxsaday ee Naanaysta kula baxay arintaas”. Cali Guray oo hadalkiisa sii wata, waxa uu yidhi “Moorgan wakhti hore waxa uu ahaan jiray Booligaadh inkasta oo uu saraakiishii Ruushka ka yimid uu ka mid ahaa, hadana col uu hogaamiyey oo dagaal galay oo guulaysta waligii lama arag. Dagaalka uu imika ku baaqayaana waa mid aanu waxba ka taraynin, sarkaal milatari lama odhan karo runtii lamuu mid ahayn saraakiishii waawaynayd ee halgankii sida wayn uga soo qaybqaatay oo lamuu mid ahayn Cabdi Casiis Cali Barre, markuu Hargeysa joogay gurigiisu waxa uu ahaa Night Club habeenka Jimcaha lagu tunto, waxa kaliya ee uu ahaa nin ismaldhakhiye ah oo isdaawada uun, laakiin marka ay runtu timaado nin wax tari kara maaha. Inkasta oo aanu ahayn nin u qalma in loo jawaabo hadana, waxaan leeyahay dabkaas uu shidayaa hada isku dirkaa uu la soo banbaxay waa mid aanu isagu ku gubanayn. Moorgan isaga oo Kismaayo jooga oo kooxyar oo uu Qabyaalad meel ugu ururiyey u qudbadaynaya oo gadhkan Yuhuudiga ah ee uu leeyahay mid la mid ah leh Media-ha waynu ku aragnay isaga oo dadkaas colaad ku abaabulaya oo leh Tolaa’iyeey, imikana waxa uu doonayaa innuu dab kala dhexdhigo Somaliland, xiligan maamul hoosaadada badan la samaystay isagu waxa uu u arkayaa in Calankan buluuga ah ee ay wataan qoladan qurbo jooga u badan ee Somaliland dhexdeeda doonaya inay maamulka ka samaystaan, waxaanu doonayaa in arinku uu inta uu maanta marayo uu ka balaadho. Arintu imika waa khilaaf inaga dhexdeena ah oo beel ka mid ah beelaha reer Somaliland, runtii taasina hore ayey inoo soo martay inaguna Insha Allaah waynu xalin oo wuu iska dhamaan doonaa khilaafkaas yari, markaa ninkan Moorgan la leeyahayna waxa uu doonayaa inuu wax kale ku sifeeyo oo uu dadka saar qabiil iyo munaafaqad la soo dhexgalo”. Afhayeenka xisbiga mucaaridka ah ee UDUB Muj. Cali Guray mar uu ka hadlayey shirka Taleex iyo ujeedadii laga lahaa, waxa uu yidhi “Shirkii Taleex ka dhacay horta ujeedadii ay ka lahaayeen qolada qurbo jooga ah ee uu Cali Khaliif Galaydh wataa kamay gaadhin oo intan shiraysaa waxay ahayd in aad u kooban oo 300 qof badhna ay qurbaha ka yimaadeen badhna ay yihiin intii ay masaariifta u soo diri jireen, isla markaana dadka kale rayigooda lama ogolayn xataa sida muuqata beesha *********** laftigeedu waa beel leh Somaliland oo jecelna inay nabad kula noolaato beelaha kale ee la daga dalka, xalkaasina waa mid u baahan in si wada jir ah loo raadiyo”. Isaga oo hadalkiisa sii wata kana hadlaya Cali Khaliif Galaydh iyo danta uu ka lahaa shirkii Taleex, waxa uu yidhi “Cali Khaliif Galaydh-na waxa uu is lahaa shirka London ayaad ku fadhiisan doontaa maamul goboleedkaas uu sheegtay, taasina inaanay suurta galaynin waa la ogyahay. Markaa anigu waxaan taageersanahay xaga nabada oo waxaan jeclahay waliba in la isku dulqaato oo wax walba wada hadal lagu dhameeyo, taas ayaanan mar walba taageerayaa. Hadalkii uu warbaahinta mariyeyna maaha mid macno badan samaynaya oo Cali Khaliif waa nin siyaasi ah oo guur-guurid badan siyaasaduna maaha sida uu moodayo oo siyaasi kuma sheegi karnaba maadaama oo uu colaad ku baaqayo, halkan uu leeyahay ha lagu dagaalamo-na waa halkii uu u dhashay ee uu dadkiisu ku noolaa. Waxa loo baahan yahay dhamaanteena inala gudboon in siyaasadahan bariga dib loo qiimeeyo oo dib wax badan looga badalo oo fiiro intii hore ka badan loo yeesho, isla markaana colaad iyo nabad labada-ba loo diyaargaroobo. Cali Khaliif Ethiopia-na wuu soo maraa, isla markaana Ethiopia-na cida ku macaaridka ah ee halkan jooga Hargeysa ayaa laga dhexqabtaa oo loo dhiibaa, waxaan fahmi kari laayahay waxa weeyi in iyada oo Madaxwaynaheenii uu Cali Khaliif dambiile ku sheegay, waxa uu imikana uu Jigjiga u joogo ee ay iyagu u galbinayaan ee ay u taageerayaan runtii taas ayaan fahmi kari laayahay”. Cali Guray mar uu ka hadlayey Maamulka Puntland, waxa uu yidhi “Maamulka Garoowe abaabul dagaal iyo colaad-ba inay inagu soo afuufaan waa mid looga fadhiyo waayo qoladaa ********** waxa ay rabaa in beesha *********** u soo baahato oo ay soo ceshadaan Puntand-tii uu Dhulbahantuhu ka mid ahaa oo imika dhamaan beesha *********** way ka soo go’een maamulka Puntland, hadii ay ka soo go’eena waxay u soo noqdeen dalkoodii iyo dadkoodii reer Somaliland oo run ahaantii uu ka dhaxeeyo xidhiidh qoto dheer oo soo jireen ahi. Arinta ay reer Puntland ka dagaalamayaan ee waxan oo xaasidnimo ah ugu wacani waxa weeyi marka uu *********** ka tashado waxa meesha ku soo hadhaya reer yar oo Marjeerteen la yidhaahdo oo kaliya, markaa waa taas ta ay ka dagaalamayaan”. Mujaahid Cali Guray mar wax laga waydiiyey shirka kooxaha Soomaalida uga Cali Guray mar wax laga waydiiyey halka uu ka taagan yahay Shirka London ee Somaliland lagu casuumay, balse shakiga badan laga muujiyey, waxa uu yidhi “Anigu waan taageersanahay marka horena waan taageersanaa shirka uu Ingiriisku ku baaqay, waana wax wanaagsan hadii magaca Somaliland la inagu casuumay oo aynu shirkaa kaga qaybgalayno, sababtu waxa weeyi in dadaaladii la sameynayey 20-ka sanadood ee xalka loogu raadinayey Somalia ay qireen inay wada fashilmeen, markaa Somaliland waxa ay indhaha ka lalin jireen oo aynu odhan jirnay Somaliland waa loo baahan yahay oo bulshada caalamka ayaa u baahan. Hadalkii uu ku hadaaqayey Ra’isal Wasaaraha Somalia-na waa beentii oo kooxaha ka qaybgalayaa waxay sitaan calamkii Somalia ee buluuga ahaa, kaas oo ah calanka Somalia, markaa Puntland, Galmudug, TFG iyo Ehlu-suna Waljameeca intaasi-ba waxay sitaan calankaas buluuga ah, halkaasna waxa ka muuqata inaanay dawladda TFG-gu aanay matali karaynin intii xataa Somalia la isku odhan jiray, markaa hadii aanay jirin Somaliland kala qaybsan oo saddex calan kala sidataa ma ma jirto. Ajandaha lagaga hadlayo shirka London waxyaabo badan oo Somaliland khuseeya ayaa ku jira oo ay mid yihiin xaga Kaalmada, Budhcad-badeeda iyo Argagixisada waa waxyaabo ina taabanaya oo mandaqada ka mid ayeynu nahay. Qodobka tooska ahi waxa weeyi waxa dhamaanaya mudadii dawladdaTFG-ga loo xilsaaray inay maamulaan halkaas oo waxa ay kaga eegtahay bisha August ee sanadkan, markaa hadii ay bulshada caalamku rabto inay dhibaatooyinkaas xalkooda ay Somaliland kala qaybgasho oo waayo aragnimada aynu arimahaas u leenahay wax la inaga waydiiyo ama runta la isku sheego oo la yidhaahdo dhibaatooyinkaas Somaliland wax wayn ayey ka tari lahayd hadii la aqoonsado, markaa maadaama oo aynu dan leenahay waa inay aad u danaynaa meelkasta oo ay imanayaan cid wax inoo ogol, markaa inaynu inaga iyo Soomaaliya noqono laba dal oo jaar ah oo is kaalmeeya, waxay noqonaysaa kaalin wixii hore oo dhan ka firfircoon”. Afhayeenka UDUB mar uu ka hadlayey khilaafkii kala irdheeyey xisbigooda halka uu salka ku hayey, waxa uu yidhi “Khilaafkaas UDUB sidii aanan markii hore ugaga muuqan Media-ha ayaan hadana jecelahay inaanan ugaga muuqan, khilaafkanina waxa uu ka dhexbilaabmay kooxo gudida fulinta ah, labadoodu-na way isla ogolaayeen in Musharaxa la soo qadimo, aniguna waxaan ka mid ahaa ragii diidanaa Musharaxa imika ha la soo qadimo, markaa anigu waxaan gaar noqday markii labadoodaas dhinac ay isla qaateen in Musharaxa la soo qadimo oo lacag badan uu shubo cidii Musharaxa xisbiga danaynaysaa, arintaasina mid ay isla ogolaayeen ayey ahayd laakiin natiijadeedii kamay wada farxinin labadii dhinac. Mida kale anigu uma arko Jamaac Cali Xuseen uu khaldan yahay oo intuu qandaraaskii bixiyey ayuun buu dadkii tartamayey ka mid noqday, lacagta badan ee Musharaxa lagu xidhayna waxa dabada ka riixayey waxay ahaayeen Wasiiradii xukuumadii hore, khilaafka jirana hadii laga wada hadlo waa wax si dhakhso ah loo dhamaynkaro, laakiin hadii uu Cali Warancade damac ku jiro waxay ahayd in shuruudii uu sameeyey uu u maro Musharaxa xisbiga”. http://www.haatuf.net/2009files/3069.html

hee Juxa, maxaa dhacay?

thanks. the colours dont seem right. sxb

Mintid Farayar;782296 wrote: You'll excuse me if I don't believe your statement of past beliefs.... Ask Xaaji Xunjuf, he will tell you. First you thought I was a non-ethnic lander, now you think I am one of those classic TNG/TFG "nothern trees", but belief I am not. I have always opposed them, cause their timing and way of operating was flawd. except those who were working for SL ofcourse.

Xaaji Xunjuf;782291 wrote: Yes they are but the pirates are not there aren't many of them there only ha handful of them there are even people from burco and ceerigaabo in Bosaaso. But Carafaat Djibouti is different 5 of the cabinet members of Djibouti are ethnic Somalilanders. In Muqdishu there are more then 5 "ethnic" landes. what is your point, except for support dictatorships/