Dr.Osman, Qardho waa magaalo qurxoon, wacan oo qawoow. aad ayaan uga helay. wexe la mid tahay magaalada Sheick

indeed Duke.

Siilanyo is working towards a Nobel Prize.

Somaliland’s parliament votes to attend Somalia conference in London 5 Feb 5, 2012 - 12:28:30 PM HARGEISA, Somalia Feb 5, 2012 (Garowe Online) – The two houses of parliament in Somalia’s separatist region of Somaliland have voted overwhelmingly voted in favor of the Somaliland, Radio Garowe reports. Somaliland leader Ahmed Silanyo at parliament in Hargeisa The joint parliamentary session was held Sunday in Somaliland’s capital of Hargeisa and attended by 109 MPs from the elected House of Representatives and the nominated House of Elders (Guurti). The session, chaired by the Speaker Abdirahman Mohamed Irro of Somaliland’s House of Representatives, discussed two major issues: Somaliland’s attendance at the London conference and revision to a Somaliland law which prohibited participation at Somalia conferences. Somaliland Foreign Minister Mohamed Abdullahi Omar addressed the joint session of parliament and argued strongly in favor of Somaliland’s attendance at the upcoming International Conference on Somalia, hosted by the UK Government in London on 23 February 2012, where UK officials expect the attendance of world leaders and diplomats from over 50 countries. Speaker Irro told the parliamentarians that Somaliland President Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo addressed parliament earlier. “Today you have heard the Foreign Minister expressed that the administration has engaged in wide consultation regarding the London conference,” said the Speaker. Continuing, Speaker Irro said: “There are two issues here: one issue is a prior law banning Somaliland participation at Somalia conferences, as it has become vitally important that we protect our statehood while simultaneously protecting our interests, and so there is a proposal to amend that law as the administration finds our Somaliland’s interest in attending the London conference on Somalia.” The Somaliland MPs from both houses of parliament voted thereafter, with 101 MPs voting in favor of Somaliland’s attendance at the London conference, while 3 MPs rejected and 4 MPs abstained, and the Speaker did not vote. The law passed in favor of Somaliland’s attendance at the London conference on Somalia, parliamentary leaders declared. Independent sources in Hargeisa tell Garowe Online that the parliament hall was loud and rowdy during the deliberations, with one legislator named MP Mohamed Farah Qabile storming out of the hall in anger. Sunday’s vote by the houses of parliament in Somaliland favoring the separatist region’s attendance at the London conference marks a major shift in policy for the separatist region, which has deliberately stayed away from the more than 15 Somalia peace conferences held in capitals like Cairo, Addis Ababa, Djibouti, Nairobi, and soon London. It is not clear what brought this major shift in policy in Somaliland, but the change comes at a momentous time in Somalia’s recent history with African peacekeepers and neighboring countries’ armies seizing control of land from Al Qaeda-affiliated Al Shabaab terrorist group in south-central Somalia. Political analysts say international pressure, particularly by the UK government, played a key role in influencing politics in Somaliland, a former British protectorate. Last month, Somaliland forces faced a resounding military defeat after a failed invasion of Buhodle town, a failed military operation that exposed Somaliland’s clan politics and its stretched military might. Somaliland, located in northwestern Somalia, unilaterally declared independence from the rest of the country in 1991 but has not been recognized internationally. GAROWE ONLINE

General Duke;785614 wrote: Well done Mr. President. These students are Somalia students after all. correction, they are Somali studens. grammerwise its incorrect to say Somalia students.

Dr_Osman;785594 wrote: Where are you bilan? look at this construction boom. Bosaso-Garowe-Galkayo-Qardho-Waciye-Ceel Dahir are in a construction boom Bilan ayee ka qabsatay.

Londen, waa bilowgii wada hadalka Xaaji.

same building from 3 corners

Axmed Muxumed Cumar Guddoomiyaha Urur Siyaasiga Nasiye oo isna ka hadlay shirkaasi jaraa’id ayaa hadalkiisa ku bilaabay sidan “Madaxweynuhu waxa uu saaka fursad siiyey inuu la kulmo ururada cusub, waxaanu madaxweynuhu noo sheegay shirkaa mawduucyadii ku xidhnaa oo uu noo iftiimiyey waxyaabo farabadan (1) Waxa uu noo sheegay in Shirkaasi uu yahay fursad maadaama ay ka qaybgalayaan 44 dawladood oo caalamka ka mid ahi, Madaxweyneyaashii ay soo fadhiisanayaan ay noqonayso madashii ugu horaysay ee tiro intaa leeg oo dawladood isugu timaado inay Somaliland istaagto oo ay qadiyadeeda ka sheegto, waxa kale oo uu noo sheegay in dawladda Ingiriisku ay hawl badan ka qabatay sidii Somaliland aanay uga mid noqon lahayn ururadaa kale ee Somalia, waxa uu sidoo kale noo sheegay inay u cadeeyeen dawladda Ingiriisku inaan Somaliland ku jirin kooxaha Road Map-ka waxa loo yaqaano ku jirin, waxa kale oo uu Madaxweynuhu noo sheegay in Kuraasida halka shirka Somaliland ka fadhiisanayso inay ka duwanaanayso kooxaha kale ee Somalia ee shirka ka soo qaybgalaya. Waxa kale oo Madaxweynuhu uu noo sheegay in la siin doono Fursad uu kaga hadli doono qadiyada Somaliland oo uu khudbad ka jeedin doono shirkaa oo la siin doono, sidoo kalena in wefti heer qaran ah oo golayaasha qaranku ay ku wada jiraan inay kaga qayb galaan”. Si kastaba ha ahaatee 10 urur ee Madaxweynaha kulanka ay wada yeesheen ayaa waxa ay kala ahaayeen, Ururada Wadani, Umadda, NDB, SSCD, Nasiye, Xaqsoor, Gurmad, Jamhuuriga, Rays iyo Horyaal

Somaliland Oo Ka Midaysan In Xukuumada Lagu Garab Galo Ka Qaybgalka Shirka London Iyo Madaxweyne Siilaanyo Oo Hogaamin Doona Wefti Balaadhan Oo Isugu Jira Golayaasha Iyo Qaybaha Kala Duwan Ee Bulshada Hargeysa, February 5, 2012 (Haatuf) – Golayaasha Qaranka iyo Qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada Somaliland ayaa si weyn uga midaysan in xukuumada Madaxweyne Siilaanyo lagu guubaabiyo laguna garab galo ka qaybgalka shirka London ka furmaya 23-ka February ee Beesha caalamku kaga arinsanayso siddii xal loogu heli lahaa xaaladaha amaan daro ee Somalia ka taagan, kuwaas oo saamayn ku yeeshay Nabadgalyada Mandaqada iyo guud ahaan Caalamka. Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ayaa maalintii shalay kulamo la yeeshay goleyaasha Baarlamaanka, Salaadiinta iyo Ururada Bulshada si uu ugala arinsado ka qaybgalka Somaliland ee shirka London ayay wada tashigaasi ka dib si buuxda ay dhamaantood ugu taageereen xukuumada in wefti balaadhan oo uu hogaamin doono Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyada Somaliland Mudane Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) oo isugu jira Golayaasha Qaranka iyo Qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada Somaliland ay ka qaybgalaan shirkaasi, isla markaana ay Somaliland in ka badan 40 dawladood oo madashaasi ka soo qaybgalaya ay ka hor cadayso Mawqifkeeda ku wajahan qadiyada Madaxbanaanida Somaliland, kana talo bixiso waayo aragnimada ay u leedahay xalinta khilaafaadka iyo daminta colaadaha. Madaxweyne Siilaanyo oo kulan casuumad ah ugu qabtay xildhibaanada labada gole ee Baarlamaanka Hotel Maansoor ee magaalada Hargeysa oo ay goob joog ka ahaayeen shirgudoonada labada aqal iyo xubno ka tirsan golaha wasiirada ayaa kulankaasi albaabadu u xidhnayeen isla markaana saxaafadu dibada ka joogtay, kaas oo la sheegay in labada gole ay ku taageereen Madaxweynaha in xukuumadu ka qaybgasho shirkaasi, maantana ay fadhi gole ku ansixin doonaan. Sidoo kale Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ayaa maalintii shalay kulamo la yeeshay Salaadiinta Somaliland iyo Ururada Siyaaasada dalka, kuwaas oo ku dhawaaqay inay si buuxda ugu taageersan yihiin xukuumada in Somaliland si balaadhan uga qaybgasho shirka London lagu qabanayo 23-ka Bishan oo lagu lafa gurayo arimaha ka taagan Somalia ee saamaynta ku leh Mandaqada iyo guud ahaan Caalamka. Salaadiinta Beelaha Somaliland iyo Masuuliyiinta ururada Siyaasada ayaa sidaasi ku sheegay shirar saxaafadeed ay u qabteen warbaahinta kala duwan ee dalka kadib markii ay shalay Madaxweyne Siilaanyo la yeesheen fadhi ay kaga arinsadeen in Shirka dawladda Ingiriisku soo qaban qaabisay laga qayb galo iyo in kale oo ay isla qaateen in Somaliland ay ka qaybgasho shirkaasi kadib markii xukuumada Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ka qancisay qodobo dhawr ah oo ay ka mid yihiin In Weftiga Somaliland ka tagaya shirkaasi ee uu Maxweynuhu hogaamin doono in aan meel lala fadhiisin doonin kooxaha iyo Maamul Goboleedada Somalia, isla markaana Madaxweynaha Somaliland uu khudbad ka jeedin doono madasha shirkaasi ee ay ka soo qaybgalayaan in ka badan 40 dawladood. Ugu horayn Salaadiintan oo shirjaraa’id ku qabtay Hotel Xaraf si ay uga warbixiyaan kulankii wada tashi ee ay Madaxweynaha shalay la yeesheen oo ugu horayn Suldaan Axmed Daahir Muuse oo ka hadlay waxa uu yidhi “Waxaanu ka soo baxnay shir aanu la yeelanay madaxweynaha Somaliland iyo Wasiiro oo aanu ka wada hadalnay go’aanka ay gaaadheen ee in laga qayb galo shirka London lagu qabanayo oo lagu soo casuumay dawlado badan oo ay ka mid tahay Somaliland, kaas oo aanu hore anagu hadii aanu nahay Golaha Salaadiinta si gaar ah u falan qaynay, ka dibna waxaanu isla garanay inay maanta haboontahay in laga qayb galo. Nasiib wanaag Madaxweynaha iyo dawladu waxay go’aamiyeen oo ay naga talo geliyeen in lala qaato go’aanka ay soo jeediyeen oo shirkaasi si mug leh looga qayb galo, anaguna anagoo ka wakiil ah umadda Jamhuuriyada Somaliland waxaanu ku taageernay in laga qayb galo shirkaasi oo maanta waxa inoo diidayaa jirin, waayo oo dawlad isku dheeli tiran, markaa Madaxweynaha iyo dawlada waanu ku taageersanahay in laga qayb galo shirka, waanan ugu ducaynaynaa, shacbiga reer Somaliland meel kasta oo ay joogaana waxaanu usoo jeedinaynaa inay go’aankaa nala qaataan,” ayuu yidhi Suldaanku. Suldaan Siciid xaaji Yuusuf Ducaale oo ka mid ahaa Salaadiintaasi oo isaguna halkaasi ka hadlay ayaa waxa uu sheegay in Salaadiin ahaan ay taageersan yihiin in shirkaasi London la tago ayaa sidoo kale ka hadlay in Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ay kala hadleen dagaalkii dhawaan ka dhacay Buhoodle isaga oo arintaasi ka hadlayaana waxa uu yidhi “Waxa kale oo aanu Madaxweynaha kala hadalnay shaqaaqada ka taagan gobolada bariga, gaar ahaan Degmada Buuhoodle, taasoo aanu soo jeedinayno anagoo Salaadiintii ah in arrintaasi nabad gelyo lagu dhameeyo colaad waynu naqaanaa oo wiilbaa ku dhinta ee wiil kuma dhasho. Markaa waxaanu madaxdhaqameed ahaan ugu baaqaynaa dhinacyada ay khusayso in nabad-gelyo iyo wada hadal lagu dhameeyo wixii wax tirsi ah, anagoo ka tacsiyadaynayna dadkii halkaasi ku dhintay qoysaskoodii iyo dhamaan shacbiga Somaliland inuu illaahay samir iyo iimaan ka siiyo, kuwii ku dhaawacmayna illaahayn ha u sahlo oo caaafimaad ha ugu bedelo”. Suldaanka Guud ee Beelaha Somaliland Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan C/qaadir oo isa guna halkaasi hadal kooban ka jeediyay ayaa sheegay in talo wadajir ah ka dib markii la isla qaatay ay ka Salaadiin ahaan dawlada ku taageersan yihiin ka qaybgalka shirka London ee Somalida loo qabanayo, waxaanu Suldaanku madaxweynaha ugu baaqay in xubno Salaadiinta ka mid ah ay waftiga ka mid noqdaan Somaliland uga qaybgalaya shirkaasi, isaga oo xusay in Salaadiin ahaan ay meesha ay galaanba ay ka midho dhalinayaan. Suldaan Aadan Faarax Cumar iyo Suldaan Xiis Barre Yuusuf oo iyaguna shirkaasi ka hadlay ayaa sheegay inay taageersan yihiin in dawlada Somaliland ka qayb gasho shirka Somalia loogu qabanayo cariga Ingiriiska. Salaadiintan ayaa sidoo kale ku baaqay in shaqaaqada Gobolada Bariga Somaliland, gaar ahaan Deegaamada Buuhoodle lagu xaliyo wada hadal iyo nabad-gelyo, lana joojiyo colaada, iyagoo ugu baaqay Madaxdhaqameedyada deegaankaasina inay nabada iyo wada noolaanshaha Bulshada Somaliland ka shaqeeyaan, isla markaana ajiibaan gogosha nabada ee ay ugu baaqayaan. Dhinaca kale Kulan kaa la mid ah oo 10 ka mid ah 15-ka urur siyaasadeed ee Somaliland ay Madaxweynaha arintaasi wada tashi kala yeesheen ayaa ku taageeray xukuumada in laga qaybgalo shirkaasi London. Ugu horayn Foosiya Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan oo ah gudoomiyaha ururka NDB oo shirkaasi jaraa’id ee ururadu ku soo bandhigayeen taageeradooda oo ay ku q abteen Hotel Imperial ka hadashay waxa ay tidhi “Maanta Madaxweynahaa Noo Yeedhay oo nagala tashaday noona sheegay in maanta ay taagan tahay wakhti muhiim ah oo safar soogalay oo ku saabsan shirka London oo lagaga arinsanayo arimaha Somalia iyo gobolka guud ahaan in badan ayay dadku ka doodeen shacbigu is weydiiyeen, waxanay inta badan dadku isla garteen in madaxweynaha lgu taageero laguna hambalyeeyo talaabadaa uu qaaday oo ah in loo baahan yahay in somalialnd 20 sano ka dib ay iska qaaday daahii oo ay ka qaybgalayso shirkaasi oo lagaga hadli doono budhcad baddeeda ama nabadgalyada gobolka ama Somaliland mawqifka ay taagan tahay in laga cadeeyo meesha oo 44 dawladood in ka badani ay iskugu imanayso meesha, shacbiga reer Somaliland markaa waxa aanu u sheegaynaa in ay muhiim tahay in la fahmo in madaxweynaha iyo dawladda lagu garab istaago talaabadaa geesinimada leh ee uu qaaday oo loo baahan yahay in la garto in aynaan daah dabadii ka hadli Karin 20 sanadood kaidb ee ay maanta tahay in qadiyada n ummadaha halkaa iskugu imanaya ee faraha badan loo soo bandhigo”. Sidoo kale Guddoomiyaha Urur Siyaasadeedka SSCD Kayse Cabdi Yuusuf ayaa waxa uu yidhi “Waxa aanu kulan wada tashiya la yeelanay Madaxweynaha iyo dareenka aanu ka qabno shirkaa London, waxa la isku afgartay kuna hambalyeynay inuu tago oo uu rabitaanka shacabka iyo rabitaanka somalialnd uu u gaadhsiiyo miiska caalamku isgu imanayo oo la yidhi dhawr iyo afartan dawladood ayaa isugu imaanaya, dhawr iyo afartankaa dawladdood in la hordhigo rabitaanka shacabka somaliland shay muhiim ah iyo fursad weyn baanu u aragnay isaga isaga iyo intii raaci karta oo waa la idiin sheegay in aanu tagayn madaxweynaha oo kaliya iyo saddex wasiir toonee Somaliland oo qarankeeda oo dhan iyo bulshada Somaliland haday tahay ururada Bulshada, haday tahay xukuumada, haday tahay ururada siyaasada iyo haday tahay qurba jooga dad badan baa kala qaybgalaya, dhamaana waxa aanu ku waafaqsanahay uguna sii ducaynay in shirkaasi uu tago oo uu ka qaybgalo wananu la qabnaa oo kuligayo arintaasi waanu ka midaysanahay”.

Gabartaan caadi maahan. Mar niiko ee dheele, mar dhaanto, mar Afmaay ku heese.

Merci Monsieur Le President

Xaaji Xunjuf;785372 wrote: he also said Somaliland jiri meyso mid this year ma run ba taasina:D Ma xasuusata last year Wuxu uga jeedahay, Somaliland aqoonsi raadsataa oo Somalia ka cararisa. And he was right in that.

Xaaji Xunjuf;785334 wrote: The point is we should not discuss what went wrong or how it went wrong but why it went wrong and that was because we were two different political entities when we were uniting in 1960. What we share Somalinimo Language dhaqan etc is not a reason to share a country and hope it will be successful.If there is no trust or national identity understanding and same political culture history there is little people can share. As for pl considers Somalia their country and they don't know better it is their country for them its impossible to secede from the rest of Somalia. But if you listen to cigaal a man who was once the prime minister of the former dissolved somali republic he said that he was never a citizen of a place called Somalia,and that's where it all went wrong.There are other ways for Somaliland and Somalia to share and cooperate on many fields health security trade even sharing one common currency in the future the movement of people the European model the movement of people i am talking about in 50 years time Somalis all over the horn of Africa are very progressive in Ethiopia kenya Djibouti. As for the elders Suldaan Abdilqadir doesn't run anything in Somaliland only his house in south hargeysa you should know that he was arrested by both cigaal and rayaale during their reign.Somaliland is runned by its politicians and the only elders that have a say in politics are the elders in the guurti the house of elders the likes of selebaan gaal Abdi waraabe Ina Sheikh fureh Mr Dhugad etc etc. Waryaa Xaaji, war Suldaanka guud ee Somaliland maxaad ku heysataa? War suldaanka amaaan siii waad ogtahay inu run ku hadlay.

Baashi;785120 wrote: London conference is a black box to me at this point. There is no telling how all the previous agreements as far as the roadmap is concerned will hold up in the event there is dramatic change of heart by the secessionists. Ol' hand Silanyo will have to get something in return in his bold compromise. What would that be? Can the host country grease the wheels in advance and secure commitments from all sides prior to opening the meeting? The dirrin in London gives us a lot of hope. The expectation is sky high. It better bear fruits or else we will... Will see! Baashi, These outcomes and commitments with these kind of high level Conferences are not left to chanse or to the last moment discussion. The political vieuws and willingness is known far before the Conference starts, and mostly only the points that parties can't agree upon are left for discussion points during Conference and you can bet the host country with the backing of Donors(EU , US, Arab acountries, etc) has quite a leverage to make sure that a deal can be reached with the best possible outcome

Sxb, eventhough I would always advocate for balancing the diversity. In this case clans have little relevence in the things at stake for they are relevent to All Somali's irrelevent in the participants and their clans.

Are you crazy. Who wouldn't like to play football with Puntlanders.

Oodweyne;784913 wrote: As for the Mr. Carafaat argument; one could only say, that is height of delusion on his part, and I am beginning to think, that he is just another pretender who thinks that Somaliland could be fobbed off with silly talks like his. In other words, if he really is in touch with back home as many of us are, then, he would not need any evidence as to the sheer mendacity that he is trying in here. For no one, and I mean no one, in Somaliland would give any time of the day to any talk of union sort with Somalia and whatnot. And, even, the politicians back home knows this in their bones. Hence, the reason, president Silanyo, is having a great deal of difficulty in even talking straight about as to why he is planning to come and attend that meeting in London; much less to talk about some sort of union and whatnot with Somalia, as some of our friends in here of SOL, are so desperately hoping that he will pull off, indeed. And, in here is the bottom-line reality that is operating in the ground in Somaliland, not the fiction some of our friends in the union camp warm themselves up with. But, we shall see as to how current elected leadership in Somaliland square this foolish circles in which they decided, in a clever by half manner, to get involve in here, indeed... Oodweyne, I told you Siilanyo and I are on the same page on this issuie. Diffrence being Siilanyo is carrying responsibility and manouvering though treasures waters, changing variables and holding in to account the feelings of the people. And I can freely state what I think is the best for our peoiple and reachable without being the one who is holding the steering wheel. Oodweyne, times changed and our people change. Back in 2000 folks were calling for the arrest of Somalilanders who were part of TNG, eventhough they left and admitted regret. Today Hargeysa is being flooded with your and mine uncles belonging to Dhirta Waqoyi. Till a year ago it was unthinkable Somaliland to participate in any meeting with Somalia. Today we meet them in din diffrent settings and with difrent excuses but no demonstrating masses. Extrapolate this change in attitiude and perception, And even you wikk admit that anything is possible as long it doesn't negatively affect our people. And maybe you are rightn that my analysis is dipped with some wishfull thinking. But you can't blame a man for wishing and dreamng for they give us directions before being corrected with reality.

Somalina;784839 wrote: Carafaat, Abwaan wuxuu yiri iyo Jeneraalka wuxuu yiri waa isku mid ogoow. Mise Soomaali ayaad ku fahantaa warka?... Somalina, dee anigu af somali ayaan u qaatay inu leeyahay hal maamul oo dadku u siman yihiin ha la sameeyo. Mise Af-mudugian ayuu wax igu hoos dhigay?

Baashi, I think many politicians from Somaliland could sell a Union to their electorate. But for that they need Reliable partners from Somalia they could make agreements with. And this has been the main course why it Took 21 years for Somaliland and Somalia to sitdown with eachother. I hope the dialogue will be continued In the post transtition process.

IAmRevolution;784820 wrote: I think the question one should ask himself is, what is somaliland? We all know that the newly formed States of Awdal and Khaatumo, along with Maakhir (which isn't a State, per se) consist of 45-55% of Former British-Somaliland Protectorate. Somaliland consists of Togheer, Western Sanaag, and Wagooyi Galbeed. If these regions that will fall under Somaliland wants to secede, then so be it. Khaatumo and Awdal will gladly sign off the Divorce Papers on a International level. However, if "Somaliland" chooses to stick with Somalia as a federal state consisting of Western Sanaag, Togdheer and Waqooyi Galbeed, then they will surely be treated equally as the rest of the federal Somali states of Somalia. Each State in a Federal Somalia will create it's own State Constitution, it's own State Laws, that will not conflict with the Federal Laws. However, no State will have jurisdiction over the Federal Government of a Somalia. No State within Somalia will have International Connection with Foreign companies and Nations, without going thru the Federal Government of Somalia. Carafaat, I know, I really know that it hurts you deeply that newly established States of Somalia, such as Khaatumo State and Awdal State have crippled an entity that supposedly existed unofficially for 21 years. We dictate your fate, mate. Get use to it. Sxb, the last thing Somalia wants is 5 northern clan states bickering about nothing else then clan,clan,clan. They already have Puntland. Maybe you don't know but in Southern Somalia there is no single province of region inhabited nor claimed by a single clan or sub-clan. They are already working towards integration of al the clan states(see meeting Xiiin and Xeeb with Hiiraan,Shabele, and 10 other clans), see Azania/Jubbaland both claiming to be the most divers rathern emphazising a single clan. Dadna waxbee isku celiniyaan, adna waxbaa kala saarisaa. Walee reer waqooyi waa ruwaayad.

Sxb, Khaatumo is political value. Don't waste it but invest it wisely. How to Investe it? -Political agenda(more funds, more seats and more share, Somali unity, less SNM politics) from Somaliland. How to waste it? -Trying to create your own maamul based on clan. For sure it will get divided along clan lines and pealed off layer b y layer like a onion. See the example of Puntland(Makhir, SSC, Rascaseyr,western Puntland and left with discruntled sub-clans). Making your political value, cheap sales with discount for Somaliland. Loosing your political agenda and your maamul. And your folks are not widely known as the most patient Somali's. So use the momentum and invest wisely.

Some folks thing Somaliland's case at the Londen Conference will be that it wants international recongnition. Well think again. Somaliland's domestic souvereignity and thus that it has control and enforce its laws in the whole country is in question with Khaatuma and Awdalland. Therefor its greatest win would be that all parties from Somalia present and the international community recongnize that Somaliland goverment has full legitimicy, mandate, control and souvereinity of its land And that it can enforce its laws on its territory. But for this Somaliland needs to sign and agreement with those parties that it will Remain part of the country Somalia and will negoitiate its Union once parties involved in Road Map have reached an agreement on its post transition period. So Somaliland can sitdown with Somalia. This is only way it can save its statehood and its founding principles and clearing all clan states . If such a deal is not reached, then expect the clan states receiving support from Ethiopia, Somalia and maybe even the int community. This is based on my own assement of the current developments and what effect it could on Londen. Tusbax ayaa furmay, tusbaxaa waa habka kaliya oo la isku so celin karo. Failure to do reach an agreement could stimulate more clan states in Somalia and Somaliland. And cost us decades to get a workable Somali goverment.

NASSIR;784767 wrote: MMA, Weli reer Waqooyi runta magaran. Soomaalinimo iyo midnimo wax ka wanaagsan majiraan. I hope new change-oriented Somalis will emerge from Hargeisa & replace the old guard. As Carafaat put it, fossils rule Hargeisa. Nassir, Somaliland has no foreign policy or foreign politics experience whatsoever. For to long they have been over dependent on Ethiopia, many folks thinking Ethiopia is their iternal friend. Even in the relation with Djibouti, Somaliland could have played the same hardball politics they were playing. But many folks regard Djibouti as their beloved cousin, not ready to deal as how two countries should deal with eachother. Did you know when Eritrea attacked Djibouti several yours ago, Riyaale was the first one to declare solidarity and offered military assistence. While Djibouti closed years ago Somaliland's diplomatic mission and Djibouti was behind the livestock ban that cribbled Somaliland's Economy. Somaliland waa daacad, laakinse siyasada arimaha dibeda daacadnimo ma taqaan ee dan ayee taqaana. That is why I think that SL en Somalia should have a common foreign policy and thus no need to gain recongnition for international souvereignity, when you have your domestic souvereignity and this is being recongnized by Somalia, one can then share international souvereignity as one can perfectly share one country with 2 systems.

Peace Action;784784 wrote: Not at all. But He is very successful in advancing the somali cause. He did not say anything that will be objectionable to Somalilanders. In fact he mentioned how the TFG is helping Somaliland qualify for loans from the world bank. And your own Carafaat will wholeheartedly agree with the PM. As an expert in conflict resolution, Dr. Abdiweli has consulted with the New York state for conflict resolution. He is the right man for the job at this time in the Somali History. Indeed, the PM remarks were positive, constructive and he showed goodwill. Its the kind of politics Somalia Needs. And very diffrent from the seef la bood politicians of the past. I remember a similar question asked to A former PM Geedi regarding his goverment's positions on Somaliland. He dfirst denied the existence of Somaliland And then said Somaliland takes part in his goverment. Times have positivily changed on both sides, I take back my earlier assesement of the PM. Propably wanted to piss of Duke, who was spinning for the PM.