Happy 26th of June and 1da Luulyo.

Khadafi;963676 wrote: And for those googling the word "hagbadaha" try AYUUTO lol:D thanks for the translation. I was already wondering what hagbad means.

Alpha, you are like the Somali version of AL Rooker. they should give you your own weather program, ma istiri.

Alpha Blondy;963769 wrote: if i'm not feeling well come tomorrow morning at 7:30. i will be forced to take a sickie. the lemsip isn't really working balse lets see how things go. make dua y'all. i'm out y'all. bye. stop smoking the shisha. that stuff aint healthy. Get better soon, inaar. will pray for you

Haatu;963710 wrote: It's not preposterous, it's just I don't get it. I get the rest of the civil war apart from that. What on earth did you disagree about? Who'll be the President of that imaginary country of yours? Gimme a break LOOOL :D Btw, what's with the tags. That's really offensive Alpha Tallaabo;963716 wrote: Basically president Cigaal (Alle ha u naxariis) wanted to force one habar to accept his rule unconditionally and so went into the ring with that habar for a bare knuckle match. The civil war in Somaliland started way before Cigaal(AUN) became President.

xiinfaniin;963297 wrote: ^^lol That is a legalistic jargon that could hardly be understood by most people . Qabiiliiste waa mid ka marka uu maqlo: tol beelayey, yaa reer hebelahey, tol beelayey , soo baxa oo hiiliya, wuxuu geysan karana geysta dhib iyo dheef . And that is the version which our Islamic teachings harshly critiqued. Xiin, how should we name the one who calls for 'tolaay, tolaay' at every opportunity.

26 june was about British leaving and Somali ruling themselves. British are still gone and Somalis are trying to rule themselves. Why do you need to inject General Akuna Matata in to this?

http://eastandard.net/needed-public-monument-for-somalia-war-heroes/ Needed: Public monument for Somalia war heroes By*WAGA ODONGO Posted* Monday, November 5* 2012*at* 02:00 IN SUMMARY It is perfectly logical to place a war monument inside a military barracks, as our military chiefs did on October 14. However, I think that a monument to the soldiers of Operation Linda Nchi should have been placed in the capital city The war started off illegally and unconstitutionally. Parliament only got round to agreeing to it when boots were in the mud and the boys in the trenches. We joined the African Union Mission in Somalia long after crossing into Somalia. The haste to war was occasioned by increasing incursions into our territory — at least that was what we were told. But wars can be justified retrospectively. Al-Shabaab had the weapons to attack us, the grievances against us, and the operatives in place. We keep finding their operatives brooding with intent and harbouring weapons caches throughout the country. Conflict was simply a matter of time. General William Sherman of the Union forces during the American civil war said: “It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood for vengeance and for desolation.” Sherman did win the war, but he said war is hell. There is a belief that we are good at war. We believe we are a martial people. The fable of a martial Kenya is even etched on our flag. We have a Maasai shield next to a brace of spears loudly declaring our eagerness to resort to force in defence of the realm. There is even a smattering of blood on the flag to show the means by which we tell ourselves we gained independence. We also have a sliver of white to make sure the flag does not end up looking too bellicose. However, on issues of territorial integrity, we have been supple and bent over backwards, such as when our ownership of Migingo Island was questioned. Paradoxically, Kenya was, until 2007, an island of peace in a volatile region despite the fact that it was the one country that most famously took up arms against White oppression. We have the most expensive army in the region; it cost us Sh64 billion last year to kit and feed these boys and girls, who have before been dismissed as paper tigers with milk teeth. We had never tested their mettle until the Somalia incident, and so we were understandably eager to see how they would fare. It went as well as a war could go. But now the Amisom flag flies in Kismayu. The enemy dissolved into the populace. Mission accomplished. The hard job of rebuilding just beginning. The Kenya Defence Forces have lost 26 men in the campaign so far. On KDF Day (October 14), they unveiled a monument in honour of these men. It was a battle cross for fallen soldiers. A battle cross is a symbolic cross placed either at the barracks of a fallen soldier or the place at which he perished. It is made up of a helmet, a rifle, and a pair of boots. The practice of putting a battle cross began during the American civil war, where it was used to identify the fallen soldiers. The rifle pointed downwards to represent a break in the hostilities to say a prayer for the fallen. (Psst! Between you and me, I think soldiers should pray with their eyes open and their guns pointed forward). The helmet represents fallen heroes, the boots a soldier’s march to his last battle. It is a metaphorical last stand of a soldier. Also, it could be thought of as an ode to a soldier’s kit. A soldier, while highly trained, is nowadays only as good as his kit. Any one of the three items on a battle cross could be the difference between one making it and turning up as a postscript in a statue’s plaque. We have other monuments of soldiers in the country. Two on Kenyatta Avenue in Nairobi. There is also a monument in Mombasa at Mwembe Tayari. These are memorials to Africans who fought in both world wars. No African really deserved to fight in what were far off Eurasian imperial squabbles over resources. Furthermore, no Kenyan was supposed to die in support of the most racist settler government in the British Empire. There is no greater insult than being asked to fight for someone who denies your humanity and does not look upon you as an equal. The monument that was unveiled in the inaugural KDF day is dedicated to the “men and women” who paid the ultimate price in the campaign. However, a cursory glance at the names of the fallen soldiers reveals that the one-third gender rule was not in play.

Just found this info on Peace paintings in mogadishu. Its modest good start. http://peace.maripo.com/x_africa.htm P A I N T I N G Early 2012 - Painting of peace & war, Mogadishu (Somalia). By Somali artist Abdullah Abdirahman Abdullah Alif. "A teenage boy - half flesh, half skeleton - stands in the middle of the painting, one hand clutching a dove, the other a rifle. Behind him are two very different futures: verdant fields, juicy melons & pretty buildings versus flames, graves, vultures & fire. 'We made this real simple,' explained Mr. Alif. 'A young boy is the backbone of society, & we want young boys to look at this & understand they have a choice right now, death & destruction or peace.' Mr. Alif, 40, is part of a team of artists who just emerged from years in hiding & have been commissioned, by a Somali nonprofit group, for the respectable wage of $400 a month to make giant paintings promoting peace. Their work will be displayed on busy street corners, the two-dimensional equivalent of a public service advertisement in a society without many TVs. During the Shabab years, Mr. Alif had a price on his head for drawings that were deemed un-Islamic. When he finally fled his neighborhood, looters snatched his file cabinets housing all his artwork. 'Twenty-six thousand drawings,' he said. 'Gone.'"

Tillamook, Yunis, That plane is a War Memorial and it served it purpose of remembering what has happened in 1988, learning from the past, rebuild and moving on in peace. And that is exactly what people in Hargeysa have done. You dont see anyone asking compensation for destroyed properties nor for pay back. Fyi, there a more of yhese war memorials in SL. Moonlight, the Goverment is rebuilding some of the old statues of Xamar and I think its important to add one that marks a new beginning. Yes, reconciliation is a state of mind and positive symbolic gestures can contribute to peace state of mind. Vsabba, I dont think you have to agree on a single memorial. I dont see why you cant have one that commemorates for the victims of clan warlords, victims of AL Shabaab and the victims of the previous goverments, etc. The most important thing is closure if the past and not keeping old wounds open and inject in every political debate. Just listen to political debates and how old wounds of looted properties and other tragegdies are injected in the discussion about federalism. Somalee, I absolutely agree with you that acknowledging atrocities committed can contribute to solving many of the current politucal deadlocks in Somalia. Jacpher, The war has come to an end. There is no single clan fighting another, nor is there actual animosity between people. The current strive(except against Shabaab) is political and should not be confused with the civil war of the last 20years. My point still stands, we need to acknowledge the atrocities committed in the past, remember it, learn from it and mark the end of an era. And hopefully this will contribute to the start of a new beginning,even if its for the sake of future generations.

Tillamook;963515 wrote: ^ Carafat, Odeyga has already forewarned us of folks like you when he wrote in the same article you've provided, the following... "A limited number of sectarian letters, however, strongly expressed their bone of contention with me, often either distorting the main ideas in my article, or deliberately sticking to a hardened position of their own. Some others tried to cyber terrorize me in the same fashion Mogadishu cabal often politically terrorizes or intimidates dissent voices as a means to an end." Marka, stop distorting the dude's ideas or implying sinister motives without actually proffering any sort of tangible proof ! one random example. In the video he blames Hasan Sheick in strong wordings for the failed talks between Somaliland and Somalia. And in this article of may 2012(before Hasan even was elected) he declared the talks dead on arrival due to ideological and procedural mishaps. http://www.wardheernews.com/Articles%202012/May/26_talks_tfg_somaliland_faisal.html This guy is just looking for any excuse to blame everything on Hasan Sheick and HAG(Kuli fitna). He is just another diaspora clan warrior hardly worth listening to.

warsamaale;963506 wrote: he is editor of wardheer or was, so he is very informed more so than the people on the ground. so what are you talking about ?? Since when does writing clannish articles make someone informed. naga dee. See for yourself, his latest article. Bashing one clan and glorifying his own clan. Its pure clan fadhikudirir, nothing informed nor intellectual about it. http://www.wardheernews.com/a-response-to-critics/

Somalia;963509 wrote: Leave it to beesha khaldan to make wrong decisions. Why should people have a monument reminding them of the dark hours of HAG destruction of our nation? We want to move on Carafaat, we want peace of mind. :eek: Such a memorial can help people to come to a closure, so one can truly move on.

Monument in Kuwait Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park Nagasaki National Peace Monument

War Monuments in Baghdad

The Government needs to build a war memorial (monument) to commemorate all those civilians who died in Xamar after 1991. Such a memorial will support in the reconciliation efforts, will serve as focal points that the war has come to an end and this will help in the increasing understanding between Somalis.

Xaaji Xunjuf;963276 wrote: Very ugly to see grown educated men talk fadhi kudirir and pure qabyalad on TV. The man lives in Los Angeles, but is talking as if he knows the reality on the ground. pleasseee!

Tallaabo;963429 wrote: Alpha inaar you need to join one of Hargeisa's many gyms as soon as possible because the leg in those photos can easily feed all the lions in the Serengeti. Alpha Blondy;963431 wrote: 2 comments.... 1. i've just reported that. 2. beesha haradaan folks never cease to amaze me, particularly, in regards to mouthing off, where their opinions are not needed.

Puntlandi.com is quite original.

"If we join Somalia, we become the target. We hope the international community will rethink its position on Somaliland in light of these tragic events." - See more at: http://www.unpo.org/article/16098#sthash.5kkIk3S5.dpuf The UNDP office in Hargeysa was bombed in 2008 by Al Shabaab. The Minister is talking nonsense again.

Dowlad suubis iyo Kursi doon ayee ka raacday Siyaasiintii. Mee ka horeesiyaan iney nabad, heshiis iyo isfahan ka dhex abuuran dadka deeganada.

Congrats to Puntland. What kind of Programs can we expect from Puntland TV? Some suggestions: -Educational Program on Fish. -Fish Cooking program. -Tv Serie following the lives of pirates. -Weekly Intervieuw with Faroole(this will be a hit). -Program on Somali Royalty (Boqors, Sultans, Garaads ceremonies, marriages, lineages).

Waryaa Garoodi stop trolling and start discussing.

Mad_Mullah;963118 wrote: Don't care bro, urban planning wise, Jigjiga is better than Hargeisa. You are right. Its not only about city planning, but without nationlisation of land you can hardly take forward agriculture, mining, infrastructure and development in general. Somaliland needs to nationalise land or otherwise it risks slowing down development.

Loooool@ Jigjiga vs Hargeysa. To bad there is no regional football tournement. So we could openly feed our chauvinistic sentiments.