Indeed they should rest and let others Somali's do the job. So we can compare in two decades.

I wouldnt call it a cancer but if not stopped it has the characteristics of a virus with a potential to spread affect all communities. I call upon all Puntlanders active in the SOL Political section to distentiate themselves from this disastrous and destructive Policy. Or face to be blamed and shamed.

Strange that such a force doesnt fight Al Shabaab in Somalia and others do the dirty job.

Qandalawi;798112 wrote: Obviously he was doing his job but looking at it know, admitting it was a mistake and apologizing it wouldn't do harm. How so?

Qandalawi, Adna ma clan chearleader ayaa tahay sida kuwan kale. Have you seen any other group defending their clan politicians irrelevent of the critique. Most folks would feel ashamed of constantly defending or promoting their clan politicians. Most even defended and supported Abdullahi Yuusuf worst crimes rather then distentiating themselves from him. Qandalawi, this kind of behavious is unaccebtable. And Somali waxbee maanta fahman, sheekpooyinkan ma soconiyaan. Tooshka ayaa qofkasta oo lagu waxaan lagu beegiiyaa. Markaa waxan ka fogoow, ama samcadaa ayee hoos u dhigisaa.

Dr_Osman;798118 wrote: even mahiga said it, without these guys there is no somalia Their policies are even heard from david cameroon mouth as the garowe principle and the only way for a better somalia. The garowe principle is a road as farole put it in garowe 1 that he has opened up a road for us to walk on. "Waddo baan idin furay ku socoda" is the words the man said. That road as I see it from assessing key components of garowe I and Garowe II is clearly a road straight back to rashid and razaq inta kale roti. Why I say that is because we are heading for parliamentary democracy similar to 1960-69, were having a strong pm and weak president similar to 1960. Guess who is going to be PM? ***** loo sheegi maayo!!! The parliament is going be formed in two houses a regional house and a people's house. U can imagine the weight puntland will hold in the regional house and on top of that we already know what we held in Italian era Somalia parliament which was based on constituencies and we also made sure that the borders remain the same as 18 regions of somalia not just to secure the integrity of the nation as many somalilanders see it but also to secure that no clan can go create other states and and more settlements which will in turn give them a bigger share of the parliament. So go away with your lies the motions are set in place, waddo baan ku soconayna oo nagu celin doono awoowe rashid iyo razaq adiguna waad ii raci sidaad uu soo salantiid That "parliamentary democracy" didnt collapse without a reason Dr.osman. And you want a return to that period, while at the same time in combination with a Federal system that's is not in the benefit of no other region of Somalia. And may even lead to more division. Qandalawi, It's not about dissapointing individuals.But about a wide present Pirate mentality and the always present strategy of trying to establishe and maintain the clan hegemony that leads to destruction. Wax fahan.

Xaaji, Awdal folks maxaa tariiq ugu diidisaa? I have seen that there is even an old script stil practiced by a few in Borama.

I am glad Galkacyo hasnt made the list. Divided cities dont deserve any praise. Why hasnt Qandala or Golgodob made the list?

It's NSDP not SSDP.

That is the mentality. Our leaders and their mistakes should be corrected, otherwise we will never learn from past mistakes. And if they dont want to be corrected or critized one should stay home with wife and kids.

Your words not mine, Contra Che.

After the end of the second world war all members of the German Nazi Party NSDP and the Nazi goverment were forbidden to hold a political position in the new Germany. There were countless members who had no direct responsibility for the crimes of the regime, who even helpen jews or opposed some of the policies. But just to be on the safe side and history didnt repeat itself, a Berufsverbot(ban on Career) as Politician was established. The leaders of the New Germany didnt want another World War, Germany had suffered so much during the 1st and 2nd World War, that it banned hundred thousands of people to hold a political office till their name was cleared. Now, everyone who knows Somali history from the 1960 to the recent history knows what kind of destructive role Politicians mainly from Puntland played in Somalia's Politics. The corruption, clannism and voter rigging in the 60's, SSDF role, Abshir Farah's, Omar Sharmarke major corruptions and failures of establishing a goverment and Abdullahi Yussuf's destructive role of bringing Ethiopians to massacre Somali civlians and destroy xamar to the ground, and by this laying the seeds for Al Shabaab's birth. And all the whicked counter policies of stimulating and profiting from Piracy, arresting Sheicks for terrorism by PIS and the same time creating mashruucs of so called anti Piracy, anti terrorism from CIA without actually solving it. Ofcourse one can not state that all Politicians from Puntland are bad leaders with bad policies that are destructive for Somalia.And I am not going to argument there should be a Berufsverbot for National politicians from Puntland. For this wouild be generlizing all politicians from that particular region and a waste of potential exceptions who are willing to learn from the past. But the National leaders from Puntland we have seen so far have dissapointed us every bit. This should make us more cautious of any future aspirant Politcian from that region, their policies should be watched more critically, what they say and dont say should be analyzed and double checked for facts just to be sure and voters are advised to be cautios when dealing with Puntland Politicians. Just to be on the safe side and to prevent history to repeat itself.

Abwaan;797980 wrote: Back to the topic....check on 59.15 C/Weli said golahayga hadda jooga ee wasiirrada hore isuma aannaan aqoon and he even said wallaahi.....and that is not true, waayo atleast 3 ministers (Maaliyedda, Arrimaha Gudaha iyo Caafimaadka) waxay ku koreen amase ka soo jeedaan gobolka Galguduud, magaalo-madaxdiisa Dh/Mareeb ayayna ku koreen oo iskuul ku soo dhigteen, xogta aan hayana qaar bay C/Weli isku iskuul iyo dugsi ahaayeen. Wasiirrada A. gudaha iyo Caafimaadka waxaa kala dhalay labadii Shiikh ee magaalada ugu caansanaa.....Macallin Maxamuud iyo shiikh Yuusuf. Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga waxaan maqlay inay xaaskiisa qaraabo yihiin...Who knows inta kale ee wasiirrada ah ee uu indirect u yaqaanneyna? . Anigu ma qabo in warka qof hoggaamiye ah sheego inta sidii kaniinigii loo laqo haddana biyo laga daba geeyo...waxaa ila habboon in si cilmi iyo caqli ku jiro oo eex iyo maalayacni ka dheer loo lafa-guro......Checkmate PM Gaas:) Abwaan be carefull, critizing Puntland Politicians makes you apparently a clannist, according to some atleast. And defending him based on clan doesnt.

samjamaa;797890 wrote: Today Djibouti is a colorful thriving nation and the most stable Horn of Africa country, and because Djibouti passport holder can travel to any place around the world alot of somalis ready to change their passport with the Djiboutian one to reach the west countries. Is that all you can contribute? Name one single known entreprneur, one single vionary, scholar, artist, painter, musicians who doesnt steal other works, name one thing that is there in Djibouti and doesnt have a French signature. Even your Passport is in French rather then Afari or Somali only. Djibouti is the poorest French quartier in the world with a President who's IQ is 89, just below average.

Gheelle, after the failed politicians of Xasan Abdhir, Abdullahi Yusuf, Omar Sharmarke. Can you blame folks for being sceptic. We have seen the 6 months exception during Farmaajo's time. Now you can cry that I am generalizing? Yes, I am. I would say we had enough of these failed policies from 4.5, Federalism, Galkacyo seperation. Maybe these politicians from Puntland would be better postioned in the Ministry of Propaganda or PR.

Back to Cabdiwali and clan drum beats. Can's you see how ineffective it is. Now people who dont even know him will think he is a clannist like Duke, Gheelle. So my advice is stop beating the drums let Somali judge for themselves. Otherwise people will oppose purely because of your beats. This has happened before. And Abdiwali cant use this kind of PR.

Gheelle, meeshaan marka maqashid SSDF ayaa so booda. Bal keen fikirkaga siyasadeed. Aanu eegno wuxu Duke ka dhaadhiciyay.

Wallahi it's true. I used to think I was SSDF and then afterwords SNM. Ciyaal xamar aan ahaa, maxaan ka garaniyay qabiil. Duke, qof kasta lafta kagama jirto. Siiba Galkacyo iyo wixii waqooyi iyo bari ka xiga ayee biyaha ku badan tahay.

There is love in the air. Nobody loves Khatumite's more then Somalilander's. And nobody loves Somalilanders more then Unionist. Hence their opposition to recongnition. And nobody loves Puntland more then I do. And they truly love me. Once I suggested to crown me as Isim or Boqor too, and give. A title of Boqorka I. Bari. This was before Buurmadoow was known.

Guys, we all know Somaliland and whoever from Somalia will talk. It's good news. Doesnt matter who invites who, and who sits left or right. We are brothers. Aduunka ha nagu ceebenina dibdambe uun. The shame. That is what I find worst, Somali's always running to others with their issue's. Wether aqoonsi or building dowlad, its our issue for sure we can solve it ourselves. So dont make it worse.

Gheelle.T;797826 wrote: Zack and co, haddii xattaa Dr. Gas qabiil lagu taageeray, adiga iyo kuwan kale ma waxaa uga soo horjeedaa reer tolkii baa taageeray? Khasabna ma jiree day! Carafat and XX, suaal aa ini waydiiye, maxaa idin kala baray reerkaan qabiilkooda hoose. Must be your part time hobby! I doubt if there's anyone of us in SOL who knows beyond your 3 habros. Aniga asxaabteyda badankood ah reer Puntland. Garowe iyo Bosasso waan tegay. I used think SNM folks were the most clan oriented. Because after salaanta they ask you which tribe you are. But In Bosasso before salaanta ayaa la dhahaa, "wiilkaan yaa weeyaan". markaas I ask back wiilkaas yaa weeyaan. Markaa Gheellle, adi yaa tahay, ine ayo aa tahay. P.S. When I was 11 years I used to think I was reerka as well, cause all my friends where reerka. It was kind confusing when I found I wasnt, and we were just friends.

I love Saado's music.

It's not an issue. Just remembered when you use to parade around here with Abdullahi Yussuf, kept silence during Farmaajo. Are you this small minded yaa Duke. Policy, politics will continue irrelevence of family ties. Maybe it's because of your Mudugian hot tempered clan blood But if you were a real politcian you would support any good and capable opponent of your cousin.

Xaaji Xunjuf;797773 wrote: ^^ He cant Cabdi cawar is his clan cousin they are both from north galkacyo the goat clan from garowe are now the self styled elites of the garowe clan enclave Duke and cabdi cawar and their clan cousins Mr gagaab and biixi are angry , cabdi cawar is their last hope and even his term is ending in a few months time:D XX, So that is why we see more drum beats for the PM eventhough TFG is politicly history.

XX, will you arm Khaatumo?