The Zack;814898 wrote: This (calanka xabashida excluded) is one of the greatest Dhaantos I have seen these days. I dont object the flag. but the white dude and the rastafari dancing our dhaanto. dhaanto in dance form. wayaha cusub doing dhaanto.

reminds me of Dave Chappele's racial draft. waa unuka. loool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDfcbaSGzwA

Ciyaalkii threadkii ayee afdubeen.

ni nzuri. kumshukuru mungu

Somalia waa qurux. waa daadax

salaam Malika. Habari yako?

back to topic. Why do you oppose the somali constitution adopted by the people of Somalia?

You are saying one can not be a Unionist from a certain clan? arent you Puntlander and a Somali unionist.lol

Subaxal kheyr ya Maaddeey. Unuka maanta waa iideenaa. waa good friday, malimihii Jezus mid ka mid waaye.

Somalia is a Unitary State as adopted in the 1961 constitutional referendum by the Somali people.

Somalia;815336 wrote: This is from 2010, there was no Garowe Agreements . the establishment of federal states as referenced in the Transitional Federal Charter of 2004, deciding the status of Mogadishu by a federal parliament, and recognizing Puntland as a founding federal state. Somali's dont want federalism. And every document denying Somalia's Unitery State should be burned. waa xaaraan. Somalia constitution of 1960 was adopted through a referendum by the Somali people. and not adopted by 4 men and a UNDP consulant.

This so called constitution drafted by UNDP consultants which is propagating division and more conflicts by introducing federalism should be burned.

General Criticisms of the Consultation Draft http://ncfsomali.net/index.php/forum-papers/56-consultation-draft-constitution-the-next-somali-liberator 1. The Constitution-Making Process had been associated with the following flaws: a. The process was an externally-driven(read UNDP) one, funded by a certain group of governments which makes it vulnerable to loss of integrity and credibility as these governments have their own agendas to stand by b. The Independent Federal Constitution Commission is not so independent after all, and the process of selecting its members was not transparent to the public c. Although the need of a constitution is unchallenged, the timing of the constitution is seen as unsuitable considering the peace and stability which are prerequisites for drafting a constitution are lacking. It is also said to violate the same guidelines the UN has set for the timing of drafting a constitution, which is only after a long-term peace agreement has been signed d. The consultation draft constitution was prepared without considering the means of its implementation, especially when the country is politically and administratively divided e. The constitution-making process is based on assumptions that federalism is the panacea of the current political crisis facing the country, ignoring the proposal of over 60 Somali scholars that were brought together to discuss the alternatives of Federalization and Decentralization – an effort tarnished by the TFG and the UNDP which sponsored the program in the first place

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;814757 wrote: Why the need to change the 1960 axdi horta? That was a perfect one as far as Soomaalida is concerned. Haddii loo badalaayo iskutagnimada (federalism), qeyb ayaa loogu dari karay but completely revamping it is useless. Then again Soomaali ma qorin, sida kii 2004 Nayroobi lagu qoray dad kale qoray waxaan. Soomaalidii ayeeba kala bixinayaan haddii la raaco kii 2004 la sameeye. Kii Gaarisa ku dhashay ama tii Qalaafe ku dhalatay Soomaali ma'aha ayaa la dhihi doonaa maanta. good point. http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2011/jan/17529/in_search_of_a_somali_constitution.aspx The international community's approach has been based on the groundless assumption that Somalia does not already have a constitution. But Somalia does have a legitimate, balanced, democratic and Somali-owned constitution, which was drafted in 1960 and ratified through a referendum in 1961. Moreover, this constitution is not identified with any of the country's groups.

it's political satire. don't take it to serieuz.

Kabinet wil Somalische piraten ook aan de wal bestrijden http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/04/05/kabinet-gaat-somalische-piraten-ook-op-de-kust-aanpakken/ They are sending 2 of these to Somali waters. And a submarine.

Nuune, you have point there. People are still to sensitive, and one needs to emphazised the positive so. I thought I have done so, but apparently not enough. But there are 15,5 other regions you know. Somalia doesnt consist of only Puntland. Who will highlight their progress? Any advice?

Sxb, just in another thread I was accused of Somaliland bashing by Redsea. Politics is not for the light hearted. If one can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. P.S. Somali's should learn to diffrentiate between clan/people's and politics/governance. Critizing politics does not equal critizing people or a clan. Way to many people identify themselves with politics and policies. Having said that, does one oppose O people if one disagrees with ONLF?

bilaa micne.

Yes, there are great number of people from Bay and Bakool in Bosasso. If they are allowed to vote, then it wouldnt suprise me if they vote makes a diffrence during elections. What did you have in mind when you asked that question?

nuune;814967 wrote: What are the chances that the next Puntland president will be from Bay or Bakool region! Depends if all the people in Bosasso will have voting rights.

indeed, finally a long weekend inshallah. what are your plans Juxa?

LST, Brussels is less then 2 hrs from Rotterdam. You are more then welcome in Holland as well.

Garowe is beautyfull.

Somalia;814833 wrote: This is an unfortunate thread Wee dhacdaa.