Duke, what will Puntland do (according to its constitution) if Somalia gets a Decentralized Unitary State rathert then a Federal State?

Peacedoon;819080 wrote: Iam saying guards/ilaalo are small clan militias. So reer butuland are killing their own leader just like 2nd president sharmarke. TFG must protect weli against his own people. Maybe Faroole wants to appoint someone else from Garowe to the position.

Even Khatumo is supporting Azania. When will Faroole support Azania.

Siciid1986;819062 wrote: We also express our profound gratitude to the people of Galmudug state for their show of solidarity, their courageousness in fending off the pirate s as they tried to use their territorial water as a platform for holding the ship and the crew. In recent months pirates’ activities have increased off the shores of Puntland targeting local and international ships. The costs of delivering necessary commodities and good to regions in Somaliland have increased. well done to Galmudug. the fight against piracy is a national cause. every Somali should fight piracy, its a crime.

Abdirizag Xaaji Xusseen is the only living democratic elected national leader of Somalia. Faroole and Abdullahi yusuf were appointed by a room filled with their clan cousins and thus makes them clan leaders rather then national leaders elected through popular vote. for me they are the same as Ali Mahdi, Aidiid, Geedi, Sheick Hassan or Ghandi of Azania. dont compare them with Abdirizaaq Xaaji Xusseen.

Che -Guevara;819056 wrote: Carafaat...I have addressed the post before that. Constitutions will be harmonized and State Constitution can't supersede the Federal Constitution. harmonized ah? shouldnt we first finish and discuss the national constitution? before we 'harmoniz' or change it again? Puntland is already part of the commission writing the Somali constitution, now it's threatening to 'harmonize' it again to get her demands.

Che -Guevara;819029 wrote: lool@Carafaat Don't worry about Duke, leave him to his Unionist Cousins. They will straighten him out if secession lasoo sheeko tago. answer the question Che. what is your take on article 3. Xaaji Xunjuf;819051 wrote: Blackmailing Somalia for Political leverage the decision of Somalia lies within the people of Somalia not some parts of Somalia.You cant have you're own form of federalism to achieve you're clan objectives as a clan state.This is unacceptable the authorities in Mogadishu should never ever accept this. Somalia will never bow down for threats or blackmails. we have resisted bullets from warlords for sure we can resist these legal bullets from Faroole. they will not harm us.

AfricaOwn;818995 wrote: The on-going constitutional crisis will be a classic. It will be interesting to watch these Two-Headed Mutpet monsters go head to head with Somalia government as the years go by. I think Somalia's new contiution can be buried now. it was already xaaraan when it was drafted by 4.5, now the clans have their own constitution, no need to satisfy clans.

Taleexi;819047 wrote: Carafaat & XX: Ma idinkaa maamul beeleed cid ku riixaya ... xisbiyadii habrahana haddaad ka dhigteen labaataneeyo lafood .... tolow maxaa tan xigi. Somalia: Madaxweynaha Khaatumo ha af-lagaadeyn koleyba ka hadal nadiifsan madaxweynahaaga PL, mudane Farole ee sida wax loo kala reebtoba aadka uga dayacan. Taleexi, beel iyo jufo hooose ayee kala yihiin. laakinse waa runtaa, wa islaameeshi qabiilka uun. bahasha kor ha loo qaado, inta sida basasha loo dhili lahaa.

it's hilarious.

Rea his article and tell us why you dont agree with the man.

correction: it's a sub-sub-sub clan State. same as Galmudug and Xiin and Xeeb.

Adeer, I want a United Somalia. no need for every sub-sub clan having its own constitution, demands or to threatening with secession.

legalizing theft, clan states and justifying secession is not the right way. I hope you find the right idelogy and listen to your uncle Abdirizaaq, he is a smart man you know.

Generale, stay focused on the issue. otherwise I will dig up stories about you becoming the Ambassador to iran.

printing fake money causes inflation, loss of value. so its like someone stole the value of your money. waa tuugnimo. thats why its in all countries except in Garowe where its constitutional.

General Duke;819025 wrote: Carafat you read it as a threat, we get that. Now what can you do about this threat to your interest? .... :D:D I am sure it will be countered by Galmudug, Xiin and Xeeb's, Hiiran's and other clans threats. I wonder what those folks will demand from Somalia. Maybe a monarchy or an American styled Federal Bank, Federal CIA, filibuster.

Duke, the trinity of Garowe is on a course of political suicide. I see myself as the rescue.

Carafaat;818968 wrote: Article 3 Article 3 states, Pending the completion of the Federal Constitution approved by a popular referendum, Puntland State shall have the status of an independent States. General Duke;818970 wrote: I read this as encouraging the completion of the Federal constitution and creation of viable Federal States in other parts of Somalia. As you can see it's clear that it states clearly pending the completion therefore once that process is completed Puntland is not going to act as anything other than a Federal State within the Republic of Somalia. Che, I read it as a threat to Somalia. And Duke says its rather an encouragement for a Federal Somalia. Even the kid Somalia reads it as Independence article. How do you read it? or are you just doing some damage conrol. (its to late for that by the way).

Garowe clan should stop printing fake money. or all Somali's will rise up against this theft.

Che -Guevara;819006 wrote: Soomaalida waa muran jacel yihiin. Where does anyone threatened to secede, more importantly when did people of Puntland voiced this sort of nonsense. read article 3 of your new constitution.

kingofkings;818969 wrote: Article 84 Article 84 states PL Central Bank paragraph 1through 4 The Central Bank is an autonomous institution of the Puntland State and is responsible for: (a) implementing the monetary policy of the government; (b) issuing currency as the sole source; © authorizing private financial enterprises, and (d) supervising public or private financial institutions operating in Puntland; the last two responsibilities shall be carried out until a specific public institution is set up to fulfil them. The Central Bank will be directed by a board composed of seven (7) members: (a) the Governor General of the Bank, (b) the Director General of the Ministry of Finance, © the director General of the Ministry of Commerce, (d) the Director General of the Ministry of Labour. (e) three (3) members appointed by the Chamber of Commerce, and (f) a non-voting secretary that will be the Director General of the Bank. The Governor General of the Central Bank will be appointed by the Council of Ministers for a period of five years; during such period he/she can only be dismissed by the causes established in the Law and the appointment or the dismissal must be ratified by the House of Representatives. The organization and functioning of the Central Bank will be stated in a Law approved by the House of Representatives. looooooool@Central Bank. will Faroole print fake money again. war naga daaya inflationkan Somalia oo dhan baabiyay. Masakiinta Somala waxa baabiniya inflation, they dont have dollars from piracy

Xaaji Xunjuf;818978 wrote: Carafaat threats work on the TFG officials in Mogadishu remember how the Garowe clan enclave cut all ties with the TFG when farmaajo was the prime Minister replace him and you will have our blessing as it happened. Now they have their own constitution way si sharciyeynayan uun . Che, is suffering from memory loss. have you already forget when Puntland cut ties with TFG. waa ku fashilanteen, I tell ya.

Cant wait for Galmudug, Xiin andn Xeeb, Hiiraan, etc constitutional meetings and what their demands are from Somalia. TFG should employ some hostage(read pirate) negoitiaters rather then legal experts.

General Duke;818979 wrote: Again what on earth are you on about? Now you post a paper from Former PM Abdirizak ? Adeer I know you fear Federalisam and you hate Centralisam and you won't get Secession... I prefer the ideas of the Democratic and real Unionist Abdirizaaq above opportunistic and Pirate behavior of Faroole. But you choose pirate uncle above your unionist uncle.