I hope they dont go to Addis and take a stand.

Duke, your leader Faroole opposes the Somali constitution. He is now in Addis discussing with Melez how to destroy the national constitution and opportunity for Somalia's Unity. you must be angry with Faroole.

Abtigiis, can you please continue your thread and new approach. You started a trojan thread about inter-habro bullying, attacking Duriyada from within. But you got distracted by little chit chat on Summertime. P.S. Next thread should definetly be about the marginalisation and bullying of the 'monkey's' in Somaliland or sidelining and ignoring the Sultan folks from Salaxley.

Che, what do you think of Zenawi getting involved in Somali constitution?

that was when Faroole was supporting the Somali constitution.

Mahiga Oo Ka War-warsan Fulida Qorshaha Nabada Somaliya Oo Burbur Ku Dhow Nairobi– Ergayga gaarka ah ee qaramada midoobay u qaabilsan arimaha Somaliya Dr Augustine Mahiga ayaa bulshada caalamka dhaqaale uga raadinaya qorshaha loo yaqaano khariirada nabada Somaliya, kaasi oo uu qayb ka yahay shirka Muqdisho ka socda ee lagu xulayo xubnaha ansixinaya dastuurka Somaliya. Ergayga xoghayaha guud ee qaramada midoobay u qaabilsan Somaliya waxa uu walaac ka muujiyey dad uu sheegay inay doonayaan inay fashiliyaan qorshaha nabada ee Somaliya, kaasi oo uu sheegay in loo baahan yahay in la hirgaliyo, isaga oo bulshada caalamka ka dalbaday dhaqaale lagu hirgaliyo. Dr Mahiga waxa uu tilmaamay inay jiraan dad doonaya inay khariirada nabada caqabad ku noqdaan “Waxaa jira dad doonaya inay caqabad ku noqdaan Roadmap-ka iyagoo wadiiqooyin kala duwan isticmaalaya si ay uga hortagaan guulihii laga gaadhay heshiiskaas”ayuu yidhi. Hadalkan ka soo yeedhay Mahiga ayaa muujinaya in qaramada midoobay ka warwarsan tahay fulitaanka qorshaha loo yaqaano khariirada nabada Soomaliya, kaasi oo ah qorshaha kaliya ee la doonayo in Somaliya nabadgalyo lagaga dhaliyo.

Duke, they mean Islaan Bashiir Islaan Cabdulle Islaan Faarax. those boys dont know every Islaan's exact name.But we are definetly talking of your traditional leader.

Garoweonline and Faroole changed opinion in less then 3 weeks. Now, is we dont need a constitution now and we oppose it. And three weeks ago it was we need a constitution now and everyone who opposes is a spoiler, check editorial 3 weeks ago. http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Editorial_29/Somalia_A_new_constitution_amidst_war_famine_and_exodus_Editorial.shtml

EDITORIAL Somalia: Why rush such an important constitution?[Editorial] 15 May 15, 2012 - 5:18:22 PM Across Somalia, 135 elders where chosen to pick the National Constituent Assembly (NCA) as defined in the Galkayo principles signed by leaders in March. However the meeting has been marred by rumors that the elders will have to pick the 825 representatives of the NCA while in the war-torn capital, Mogadishu. If that was hard enough they have to pick the representatives so the proposed constitutional meeting could take place on the 15th of May. Since May 5 2012, 135 traditional elders based on the 4.5 system have been meeting in Mogadishu to choose the NCA. Since opening day of the conference there have been setbacks and delays. The opening day of the conference was delayed for 7 hours and the second day of the meeting almost did not occur. To top that off, there are still traditional elders that have not attended that meeting as of yet. The choosing of 825 representatives that will vote on a Somalia constitution is not an easy process. A Somalia draft constitution which in it states, the constitution cannot be amended for 7 years, cannot be voted on by just anyone. Especially in the current situation Somalia has been in for over 20 years. The process of choosing the NCA unlike the Somalia constitution should not be rushed, but it seems that the NCA process is trying to be hurried to meet a deadline. Contrary to what some TFG officials believe, the selection of the NCA could not possibly occur in Mogadishu because elders need to meet with the constituents of their region in order to choose the most qualified candidate. But politicians with their own objectives have pressured the elders to choose the NCA before the 15th of May. Traditional elders have also had to worry about security in the capital or the lack of, with bombings, assassinations, attacks on the presidential palace and all around insecurity occurring on nightly basis in the capital. One traditional elder who spoke to Garowe Online said that he was paying for security personally while in the capital from, as were other elders. Delays, insecurity and the need for a qualified NCA are reasons enough for traditional elders to be given time to choose the representatives from their constituents without having to worry about a mortar attack. The international community who has backed the TFG wants results by August, and anyone who tries to stand in front of the process has been given a clear warning, to back off or face repercussions. However a process that will hopefully return Somalia to a country not divided by clans or regions with a functioning government cannot be completed in two weeks. Many Somalis have had issues with the Somalia draft constitution and since the TFG is adamant that no one will hinder the process the only way to reach a peaceful agreement amongst Somalis is have a transparent selection of the NCA. A selection of representatives who hold their constituents issues in mind when voting on the Somalia draft constitution. Garowe Online Editorial Send comments / questions: editorial@garoweonline.com contact@garoweonline.com

Duke, you, Abdiwali and your Islaan all support the constitution while Faroole opposes it. sheekadu wee iska cadahay, why try to hide it. just stand up to the man who speaks also on your behalf.

Wafdigii uu hogaaminayey Madaxweyne Faroole oo gaarey Adis ababa Posted by Pi on May 17th, 2012 Madaxweynaha Dowlada Puntland iyo Wafdigii u hogaaminayay oo soo gabagabeeyey booqashadii rasmiga ahayd ee ay ku joogeen Hindiya ayaa maanta soo gaarey Adis ababa. Madaxweynaha iyo wafdiga la socda ayaa maalmahaan joogi doona Adis, faahfaahinta warkaan kala soco qaybaha dambe ee wararkayaga Puntlandi.com

Yes, good for him. But I do support Islaan Bashir defying Faroole and going to Muqdisho and Abdiwali's stand.

Xaaji, I have the idea our SOL friends Che, Duke, Xiin, dont support Faroole on this. Maybe the man stands alone in this together with Dr.Osman.

Che, Duke, Faroole opposed the whole constitutional process and traditional elders left Muqdisho. he is suggesting to take matters to Zenawi. try to spin Zenawi one ya Che.

Puntland State has held three successful elections in a peaceful manner. Allow me to take this opportunity to express my sympathy to the families of hostages taken by Somali pirates. Our Government is committed to do its utmost to safely release hostages held by pirates in our area, although most pirates have relocated outside of Puntland jurisdiction . Puntland Government strongly and consistently rejects ransom payments as the primary factor fuelling piracy attacks. More than 3 million people live in Puntland. Puntland hosts over 400,000 Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) scattered across Puntland, fleeing from southern conflict. It is an economic and social burden hosting such huge IDP population, who share with the host community access to employment, water, education and health. Puntland respects the human rights of all people. However, there are some subversive elements disguising as IDPs who are involved in activities to destabilize Puntland, including acts of terrorism. The geographic location has made Puntland particularly vulnerable to piracy attacks. South-central Somalia has been plagued by contagious violence, warlordism and general lawlessness since the state collapse of 1991. In addition to human suffering of the hostages, piracy activities in the region have impacted the cost of goods, as freight and insurance premiums increased, thereby adversely impacting local economies in Puntland Speech full of facts.

why would Faroole want a weak Somalia. thats not in the interest of any Somali.

Che, Faroole opposed the constitution sxb. Xiin iyo Duke sheekadodi wee socon weydey. maxaa talo ah iminka. article 3 of the Puntland constitution.

the article says he is leaving on friday. that Faroole opposed the Somali constitution and made his own secessionist constitution is a fact. you opposed it. markaa maxaa talo ah.

Xaaji, it seems the Islaan of Mudug is defying Faroole and going to Muqdisho to support Constitution. Xiin wixiisu wa iska huuhaa, uu SOL ku mashquuliniyo, ceebta ayuu isleeyahay astur.

Duke, good that you and your elder supports the constitution. But what to do with Faroole and the secessionist folks like Dr.Osman and kingofkings are already celebrating indepedence.

Islaan Bashiir Islaan Maxamed-ka Puntland oo u xadhko xidhan Shirka Muqdisho Muqdisho(Waaheen) Islaan Bashiir Islaan Maxamed oo ka mid ah Isimada ugu facaweyn Puntland ayaa Jimcaha la filayaa inuu gaadho magaaladda Muqdisho sida ay Waaheen u xaqiijiyeen masuuliyiin ka tirsan hawlwadeenadda Shirku. Islaan Bashiir sababta socdaalkiisa ayaa ka dhalatay kadib markii ay shirka Madax dhaqameedka ee Dastuurka loogu xulayo dadkii ansixin lahaa ay ka soo dareereen qaarkood, taasoo la sheegay inay jawaab u tahay Socdaalkiisu. Islaan Bashiir waa Islaanka Beesha C**** M******* ee M********** waxaana loo xudhay wakhtigan inuu Muqdisho u tago sidii uu u buuxin lahaa kaalintiisii madax dhaqameednimo oo marka horeba banaanayd.

Sheekadu wexe marisaa Zenawi ayaa ila jira oo federalism raba.

Xiin, there are no secessionist in Xamar. But still you cant seem to get Somali's objections against clan federalaism. I hope your elders act more sensible and return to the table in Muqdisho.

See how the minister of defense is checking his clothes from 0.22second

i know what you mean. this what you get when you have sub-contractors are pretending to be architects.