Xaaji Xunjuf;726150 wrote: Ethnicity aniga ku darsaday dee socially culturally waxa ka maqan uun isiirnimadi tana aniga ku daray Now Socially the garaad clan has much more space with in the political culture of Somaliland. That's why the Puntland and the Garaad clan alliance Failed after a few years they are to different socially traditionally and that's why they feel betrayed now . Another Point that drove away the Garaad clan from the Garowe admin was the Political dominance of the ssdf Clan,, politically the Garowe Clan has different Political Ambitions then the Garaad clan. The ssdf Clan wants to have huge Political influence in Mogadisho and the south and they use their Garowe clan enclave to do so why do you think faroole is touring Uganda. In Somaliland there is no one clan dominance the smallest Clan of Somaliland doesn't take crap from the bigger clans. reer Borama want what reer hargeysa have reer hargeysa want to have what reer burco have reer burco want to have what reer ceerigaabo have reer ceerigaabo want to have what reer berbera have etc etc . i will give you an example two day's ago reer burco and other Somalilanders from togdheer began to construct a road from burco to hargeysa. reer Ceerigaabo said we want a road from Ceerigaabo to burco to. Fake claim. We 're part of PL and remain to be part of it, and actually have full participation in both parliament and the executive branches!

http://taleex.net/2011/06/03/sabarey-oo-gaadhay-buuhoodle-ka-dib-hungadii-tukaraq This is a major bust to the cyberspace-based, party throwing SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga :cool:

More like if you don't like the message, attack the messenger. Taleex.net is doing a good job of busting the cyberspace-based SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga and what it all intends to do.

Here is the latest update that busts the cyberspace based myth called SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga: http://taleex.net/2011/06/03/sabarey-oo-gaadhay-buuhoodle-ka-dib-hungadii-tukaraq General Ilkajiir, PL's Minister of Interior, and his delegation visited after the Soomaalidiid aka SL invading forces were crushed, and the warrior Ilkajiir promised another decisive defeat will be delivered in the event that Soomaalidiid forces try again to attack in these two resilient towns of Higlada and Tukaraq. SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga's only two or three technicals were actually part of the SL forces who attacked Higlada and Tukaraq. It is all smokescreen what SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga supporters want: They want to get seats from ****-Qudhaanyo aka Siilaanyo, and the same way they handed Widhwidh to Soomaalidiidka, that is exactly what they have tried to do in Higlada and Tukaraq. Well, the residents of these areas understood, and told them enough with your nonsense. Go somewhere else if you want to continue mislead and milk the ever gullible diaspora. Garaad A/Sallaan Hassan Mohamed, Garaad of Omar Wacays, told them only PL admin will exist in these areas of Nugaal Godan and in no way they will ever accept the party throwing SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga who are all there to milk the ever gullible diaspora, and just waiting for what Siilaanyo is going to offer them. The much publicized new conference that the big-belly diaspora guys are talking about in London is nothing but another attempt by Ali Khalif Galaydh and company to mislead the people and ask a PM portfolio from Soomaalidiidka aka SL. Truth be told, SSC Hogaanka Booga Booga is only at war with PL and is all lobbying to get seats from Mr ****-Qudhaanyo aka Siilaanyo. The whole LA this, LA that is all smokescreen.

bilan;725748 wrote: Well, you know who writes those tabloid sites, waa dhal gargaar, but majority of the people know Faroole is individual and he is not different than the VP. people will always be family neither Xaglotoosite nor Faroole can separate them and I believe SSC and PL will eventually unite again , but that to happen they need to have the right leaders on both sides, right now I see both sides waa doqontii 10 indhood oo 9 sagaal walaalkeed isaga ilaalinaysay. Looks like when someone I like is in there KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Wallaahi, some peoples' hypocrisy is beyond reach KKKKKKKKK.

Xaaji Xunjuf;725800 wrote: loool so there was a mamuul between 1993 till 1998 , Puntland was created in 1998 not 1997 can you elaborate further on the structure of the so called ssc admin back then? Yes, Jama Abdullahi Shuuriye was selected to be governor of Sool in 1993 in boocame and Mohamed Abdi Hashi was the leader of the political wing of the USP party that setup that administration. When the PL was created at the end of 1997, The USP party and all traditional elders has participated in its creation, and that superceded every thing else!

Taleexi;725769 wrote: Horta nabadi ma jidhaa? ... I may be naive and one of the few SSC SOLers, if that is even a valid term is matter of another day , who believes and said many times in secret and in public the bitter bill that my community have defied swallowing over the years is accepting their own failures - Historically, blaming others for the sake of it has never solved someone's miseries in life as such my beloved community's predicament solutions are not to be found blaming the admins in the peripheries alone. Ground work is needed. For better or worse I supported the creation of PL and even campaigned the election of the current VP, my uncle that is, but because of his government's poor performance such as her indifference to the areas lost to the secessionists in the west and the plight of IDPs, the ripe of insecurity in the former PL state, like fighting unnecessary wars in the Golis mountains and labeling my lot SSC community as terrorists. I had felt to separate from PL and withdraw my support until our paths cross again - hence my ROI was indeed a disaster. Best wishes to PL and her endeavors. With that said, I expect from PL nothing less mutual respect, brotherly neighborhood and cooperation. Not fadqalalo iyo fawdayn for our cause because by pursuing such policy will only lead us a lose-lose scenario - conflict will spillover if you know what I mean. For the SSC community, if someone still supports like Xaabsade who has caused so much death and distraction; my community may be ways off realizing their dreams. Xaabsade and co are the likes of Al-Qaida leaders - some obscure and peculiar reasons many still support while 95% of their victims are muslims. I must agree with my opponents that my community needs UNITY and accountability more than anything else - Anything less will we surely sing in a vacuum for sometime to come. For the case of SL is different, many may not buy it but Somaliland's intentions are clear; her expansionism policies, revision of history, liquidation and oppressing to those who are resisting the clannish dogma of Hargeisa admin and dismembering the motherland are out there in the open all to see. The only place one clan controls another clan's territory is SSC. Why? because our mukhaalafo xumo and that needs to be changed I can NOT pronounce or stress it more than that. Yes, if there is a strong cohesion within SSC - for sure SL militia would not have been in LA for that long. For PL; PL has no expansion policies in mind but it wants to capitalize SSC community and manipulate their political destiny - the aflagaado of their leaders are misplaced and I protest them the strongest objection possible. Finally, all the signs show that SSC community is approaching in the point of no return and will convene an all-inclusive meeting inside the country; the place and time of the conference is TBD but it is expected that another clan admin to be given a birth. In all fairness, I see the better days of Somalia is yet to come and for SSC, they sure will have the best outcome once they run their own affairs - and that is where they are destined for now haddaanan anna qarwayn. PL and the Vice President alone cannot do any thing. It needs the support of the majority of all of the people in those regions. FYI, PL helped the last fight in Cayn region with ammunition, medical, fuel, and food. The inhabitants in Sool should aside their differences and should be willing to die for their land. I remember the VP that you mentioned asking for all technicals to be brought under his command, and at this point, nothing was brought under him. The local inhabitants should be putting aside their differences and leading the fight. The so-called SSC brought three technicals in Sool to start the recent skirmishes in Gambadhe and Tukaraq and did not do a jack. People are talking about fake entity called SSC Hogaanka that is all present in the diaspora. They need to get over the endless parties that never stops and get realistic. The two Garaads who lead the SSC Hogaanka are both in collusion with Siilaanyo, and let us not forget they are the ones who brought SL into LA. One of them calls it PL "Bintiland" when his city is in the situation that we see today. Instead of blaming PL, the blame should be those of reer Sool whose sons are dying for Soomaalidiidka. The blame should also be on the diaspora guys who are meeting in London who are talking about creating another faction of SSC whose sole job is to lobby SL to give them a Prime Minister job. We all know they are in collusion with Siilaanyo and asking him to be giving them a PM porfolio. They refused the proposal that general Mohamed Aadan Laangade put on the table where he laid down the cost of the operation and where he is going to set up hi defenses. They have opposed his proposal and claimed SL is going to leave LA peacefully KKK They have yet to explain how? Of course, we all know what that entails such as getting or at least asking Siilaanyo more seats. I think people should get realistic. The big belly diaspora guys who all care about a seat in Hargeisa or in Mogadishu are the people who are responsible for the current situation and all of the noises is just to caste blame PL where the fact is they are the ones who are responsible for LA's situation!

Xaaji Xunjuf;725696 wrote: A khadar i do not agree with that in 1993 the garaad clan held a conference in boocame regarding their future and the political situation at that time. And they did not agree,we all know that at that same time Somaliland was having a conference in borama why did we not hear about a proposed ssc state in 1993 , in 1993 puntland did not exist. so your point if SL and pl leave the ssc people alone they would unite is not true. Yes, there was a conference in 1993 and a local maamul was declared. When PL was founded at end of 1997, that new maamul was incorporated into PL. Mohamed Abdi Hashi was the political leader and he later on became the vice-president and president of PL. Soomaalidiids like to invent or hide history!

Wasiirka Warfaafinta PL, Axmed Cali Askar, oo sheegay inay maxaabiis ka qabeen Somalidiidka aka Somaliland http://taleex.net/2011/05/30/puntland-oo-ka-qabatay-maxaabiis-somaliland-cod

Dahabshiil is a terrorist financing entity. Here is the document from the US Department of Defense outlining some of the known actitity of the bloody Dahabshiil terrorist financing entity. http://wikileaks.ch/gitmo/pdf/so/us9so-000567dp.pdf In addition to the above link, the owners of Dahabshiil are very much in collusion with the terrorist leader of Al-Shabaab Ahmed Abdi Godane, where Dahabshiil owners and the terrorist leader hail from the same clan.

Tukaraq:Wasiirkii hore ee duulista hawada Puntland oo dhaliilay sheegashada SSC ee dagaalkii Tukaraq. Tukaraq:(Allpuntland)-Wasiirkii hore ee wasaarada duulista hawada & garoomada ee Puntland Axmed Cilmi Cismaan (Axmed Karaash) oo mudooyinkii lasoo dhaafay ahaa hogaamiye dagaal oo fadhiya jiida tukaraq & aaga gambara goobjoogna u ahaa dagaalkii balaarnaa ee dhawaan dhexmaray ciidamo ka kala tirsan Puntland & Somaliland ayaa canbaareeyey hogaanka sare ee ururka SSC oo sheegtay in dagaalkaas uu soo qabanqaabiyey ururkoodu islamarkaasna uu dhexmaray SSC & Somaliland, wuxuuna taas ku tilmaamay hadal macno daro ah oo been abuur ah. Axmed Cilmi Cismaan wuxuu sheegey in dagaalkaasi uu qarxay kadib markii malayshiyo ka tirsan ciidanka Somaliland ay ay weerar gaadmo ah ku qaadeen duleedka Tukaraq oo ay kusugnaayeen ciidamo ka tirsan kuwa Puntland & ciidamo kasoo jeeda deegaankaas oo uu isagu hogaamiyo, Wuxuuna Axmed Karaash intaas ku daray in ay ciidamadiisa & kuwii Puntland iska difaaceen weerarkaas islamarkaasna ay dib u reexeen ciidanka Somaliland, Wuxuuna guud ahaanba meesha ka saaray in ay SSC ka qeybqaadatay Dagaalkaas oo khasaaro badan dhaliyey. Axmed Karaash Wuxuu docda kale sheegey in ay Saraakiil ka tirsan ciidamada qalabka sida ee Puntland imika joogaan Tukaraq islamarkaasna uu la kulmay islamarkaasna ay diyaar u yihiin difaacista dalkooda, wuxuuna sheegey in aysan u dulqaadan doonin weerarada ay Somaliland kusoo qaadayso deegaanadooda. Cabdiqani Xayir Allpuntland http://www.allpuntland.com/article/anmviewer.asp?a=10657&z=2

Somalidiid aka Somaliland initiated the attacks, chased the only 3 technicals belong to the SSC group from Gambadhe, and when they were near Higlada, a town that is 5 KMs away from Tukaraq, the PL troops joined the battle, killed and captured the Soomalidiid aka Somaliland forces and chased them back to all the way Maraaga. Those are the facts. Two groups got their tails behind their legs: Somalidiid forces and SSC forces, and one victorious group PL Defense forces.

Look like the blame game is always on. PL this, PL that; com'n, how come we are ignoring the gorilla in the room--the division that exists in this Somali family. This NSUM guys were issuing these calls all those years and never get off their chairs and do something useful. Some of them are even millionnaires and here they are issuing those never endless SSC people this, SSC people that when in fact is is the internal division that is solely responsible for the situation of those regions. It helps one to be realistic.

These are nothing more than controlled revolutions. George Soros and many other front groups tried it in Eastern and Central Europe where many anti-western governments were overthrown thru the manufactured Orange revolution. These front groups tried the same thing in Iran in its last election and it has failed miserably after the Iranian Revolution Guards put down the Khatami / Rafsanjani-led Green revolution. The despotic Arab governments were not ready to deal with what is coming on their way, and hence reaping the fruits of their belief that the western establishment will never turn on them.