Who can tell me what they are saying from 0.40 onwards.

Apophis;890991 wrote: That's a given as I wouldn't listen to me too But just for the record, I'm, statistically speaking, more kenyan than Che could hope to be. Thus the more reason not to listen to you.

Apophis;890984 wrote: We should leave the analysis to Somali Kenyans like the new member tutu and Macaalinka. We certainly shouldn't listen to anything Che has to say on the issue. Or you for that matter

BTW 100's fo Somalis have been arrested.

LMAO @ gabarta Soomaaliyeed ee dhex ordaysa, shes brave.

Nice. It looks very neat and the design, although it could be better, is interesting.

BBC: "Kenyan soldiers 'rampage' after Garissa shooting" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20401136

wyre;890411 wrote: Af xumidaa ninyahow How so? I meant that Aaliyah used to be very feisty but she has mellowed... its a compliment.

Aaliyyah;890346 wrote: nor am I miss perfect who upholds every islaming ruling. I am simply pointing out where islam stands on this issue and it is up to us whether we will implement it in our daily lives. Aaliyah, I like it that youve given a very fair and honest response and that throughout this thresd youve remained very respectful and level-headed. Well done and Manshallah. Keep doing what you are doing, clearly its working for you. p.s. Waad qaboowday, beryo dhoweyd aad ayaad u kululayd.

In the video above, George Galloway says: I'm amazed at how many MP's have been in the [israeli town] of Sdrot. Did any of them when they were there, see the ruins of the palastinian villages on which Sdrot [and other Israeli cities and towns] is built; the ethnic cleansing of the Palastinian people from Sdrot and the South of Israel? Did any of them know that the refugee camps of Gaza are filled with the people who used to live in the villages [and towns] on which Sdrot [and other Israeli cities and towns] is built? If one disects the events in Israel in the past few years and decades you will discover some interesting trends. The strategy adopted by Zionists. Perpetually negotiate whilst perpetually and relentlessly advancing. Gaza was intentionally vacated by Israel and this was a carefully calculated strategic decision. This decision served many purposes and continues to serve purposes, especially in the long term. - By vacating Gaza Israel has gained some goodwill and improved (past tense), for a short time, some improvement in its interntional stanting. It was initially seen as being proactive and generous act of goodwill towards Palastinians and a step in the right diection towards solving the problems. - It was in fact a Trojan Horse. - Gaza is filled with the refugees who fled from other parts of what were Palastine from where they were vacated e.g. central and souther Israel. Hence why the Gaza strip has such an immensly high density of people, it is nothing more than a containment camp. - In one way it served a purpose of dividing the Palastinian people (into four), weakening and making easier the ruling over them. Each group would undergo a different experience and as we all know experiences shape people and the fate that they shape for themselves. The four groups are Gaza, West Bank, Within Israel proper and the refugees who are denied a right to return or otherwise enter to Israel/Palastine. - Political divisions and differences have already occured between the Gaza and West Bank groups. Israel has also intentionally treated each group differently and used each to discredit and deligitimse the other. - By buldozing palastinian villages and forcing them to flee to Gaza, Israel hoped to, in effect, literally 'smoke them out' and through the sanction starve them, and that Egypt would open the border in that they might flee there. Israel denied refugees the right to return. Egypt will not open the border. Israel, so long as it is and continues to be dominated by Zionists, it is not, never was and never will be genuinley seeking a two state solution.

Somalia;889534 wrote: Clearly if a man shakes a woman's hand he will jizz in his pants....... wtf

Narniah;889556 wrote: One thing you take from a topic like this is that the majority of Somali men aren't practicing Muslims. I don't shake hands with the opposite gender, my friends/co-workers know this and respect it. Guide us, oh Narniah.

I was about to start a thread about this topic and the free mixing of men and women in general. I will watch the videos Walaalkis has posted, that thy might shed some useful insight. To me it doesnt make sense though. If you are in a public place, what is wrong with shaking hands because shaking hands is not itself a sexual activity. And to be honest, if two people are intent on commiting zina - the primary reason why some forbid the shaking of hands with with the opposite sex is that it "might" lead to zina - they will find a way of doing it. There are so many things and instances that could lead to zina, trying to ban and forbid every little thing just doesnt make sense; humans have been installed with free will and have been shown wrong from right, an extreme rigidity and precautions will do little to curtail that. Unless there are some among you who think: "wow that was a great handshake, now I shall commit zina because of that amazing handshake". To me it just doesnt make sense.

In any other country or part of the world this would be considered a slum...

Fiqikhayre;889151 wrote: The Implementation is paid by the European Union. Say bye bye to tahriib lads and girls

dont believe or trust a word of what they utter

Other notable development: - Although AMISOM clearly ay isku dayayso inay cunoqabatayso dowladda cusub, Carson has made it clear (for what his face-value speech was worth anyway) that AMISOM will not receive more funding but instead the American government intends to direct these resources to the rebuilding the Somali security sector. - The interesting part is where the A.U, on behalf of the AMISOM troops wants to have the Somalia weapons embargo lifted, so that they will be able to get further weapons, ammunition and arms. However the UN security council has made it clear that it is too early to lift the embargo. My concern is that rather than empowering a Somali military, a lifting of the embargo will be used as an opportunity to empoer and bolster the capabilities of AMISOM. It is clear that the AMISOM countries are milking Somalia and a lifting of the embargo would be used as an opporunity to gain more military hardware in the name of the Somali Republic. - In addition the A.U and AMISOM troops want to create a AMISOM coastguard that will have the mandate of securing the Somali coastline. However, the U.S, E.U and U.N security council have objected to this and have halted any happening of this. This proposed idea conflicts with the plans of the international flotilla that is situated off Somalia's coast - the E.U has made it very clear that it (perhaps for the fishing resources) wants te be in lead of any initiatives off the Somali coast. - You will all be aware of Uganda's attempt to play hard-ball politics when it announced that it will withdraw its troops from Somalia. Ugandan has been in effect - probably by the use of both carrot and stick) told by Carson to shut up, sit down and they they are not going anywhere. - China has announced funding for AMISON. The country has previously provided some funding to Uganda and Kenya for their operations in Somalia.

Three seperate delegations, from Turkey, China and Iran, have reached Mogadishu today and have held talks with the newly formed government. Iran will open an embassy in Mogadishu. Turkey and China announced more details on their plans to assist in reconstruction efforts. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13399120-foreign-ministers-from-iran-and-turkish-arrive-in-mogadishu

The U.S.A Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Johnnie Carson said the following: The second major issues under focus was Somalia. Secretary Clinton also participated in this meeting. Somalia is a good news story for the region, for the international community, but most especially for the people of Somalia itself. Over the past 12 months we have seen the completion of the transitional roadmap ending the TFG and creating a new Somali Government. For the first time in nearly two decades, Somalia has a new provisional constitution. It has a newly selected parliament which is half the size of the former parliament and comprises some 18 percent women and whose membership is comprised of some 60 percent university graduates. There's been a new speaker selected and a new president elected. Great progress has been achieved in Somalia, and this is in large measure because of the combined efforts of IGAD, the African Union, the UN and the international community, and especially the United States. At this meeting, we heard from Somalia's new president, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, and it was broadly agreed that the international community would support the new emphasis in priorities of the government. For our part in Washington, we are determined to do three things. One is to help the new government put in place the infrastructure so that it can run effectively. This means helping to create effective government ministries, have those ministries staffed with effective civil servants and advisors so that they can carry out their government functions. The second is to help to create a new Somali national army, an army that is subservient to civilian and constitutional control, an army that is able to work alongside of AMISOM and take on increasingly new responsibilities that are much broader than anything AMISOM has been equipped and manned to do. But creating a new strong Somali army, to eventually replace AMISOM is a second priority. And third priority is to provide assistance to the government so that it can deliver services to the people so that it can rebuild and refurbish and re-staff schools, hospitals, and medical clinics, provide assistance so that it can begin to deal with some of its smaller infrastructure issues, providing clean water to populations, helping to restore electrical power and also opening up markets. We also want to help in developing small enterprise and microcredit operations to help the government as well. So we will be working there. As I said, Secretary Clinton was there. We think Somalia has made enormous progress. We also believe there has been significant military progress against al-Shabaab. AMISOM deserves an enormous amount of credit in driving al-Shabab out of Mogadishu and its environs and also moving against the city of Kismayo. Much credit for the operations in Kismayo go to the Kenyan forces who were a part of AMISOM, but we must praise the leadership of the Ugandan commanders who have led the AMISOM mission over the last four years. But Uganda, Burundi, Djibouti, Kenya all deserve credit, and they will soon be joined by forces arriving literally today and tomorrow from Sierra Leone to help strengthen AMISOM. But the international community has been in unison with IGAD and the AU, and the U.S. has been a significant and major contributor to this effort. I stress that in the case of Somalia, where we have seen enormous progress over the last 12 months, and in fact, continuously over the last three, three and a half years, there has been a clear commitment by all who were engaged there to follow a common strategy and adopt a set of common views. EGAD and the East African community, who are the most important players around Somalia, the AU, the U.S., the UN and others have all had a common position. And I think that's why Somalia has achieved so much success over the last 12 months in terms of moving to a more permanent government and making the strides in success against al-Shabaab. We look to try to have the same kind of both regional and international cooperation on Mali. we applaud the work of AMISOM and what they have done in helping to degrade and defeat and push al-Shabaab out of Somalia's main cities and towns. We believe that this will help to bring about a return to stability in Somalia and will reduce, over time, the terrorist threat to Somalis and to neighboring states. We believe that the Kenyan role in liberating the south as a part of AMISOM is important and deserves the support of both IGAD, the African Union, and the international community. On this - on the first question that you asked, we have in Washington been strong supporters of AMISOM, major contributors to the AMISOM effort, largely by training and equipping AMISOM battalions that have gone into Somalia to help fight the al-Shabaab. Going forward, we would anticipate that most of our new and additional resources, as they come to us, will be directed at helping to train and provision a new Somali military, not to continue to expand AMISOM. The focus should be on creating a national Somali army that will take over from AMISOM and will assume the responsibilities of providing national security and defense for the nation. I do not at this time have any dollar figures that I can share with you on what we would be providing to the Somali Government to train Somali military forces. We have done some of this in the past. We have trained small units of Somali TFG troops in Bihanga, Uganda at a military camp. We would expect that we will, over time, continue to do this and expand it and to make more of the training local in Somalia for both cost effectiveness and for political reasons. But we look at the focus going forward being directed at strengthening the Somali national military and not expanding the AMISOM effort, which has been extraordinarily valuable and important. SOURCE

The U.S, Turkey and Egypt have all stated that in their different capacities, they will train, arm and fund a "new" Somali Military. Turkey and Egypt's offers have as of yet only been pledges rather than concrete planned action. The U.S on the other hand has indicated that it has a thorough and comprehensive plan to rebuild the Somali military and to [eventually] do away with AMISOM. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Thuganomics get out of Somaliaonline -->

MahuboFabulous exposes hypocracy: Nimzy rose on SNet: http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=317538&p=3839133#p3839133

Somali children sing at the Kabasa IDP camp Child Friendly Space in Dollow, Somalia. "When I was a little boy My mother woke me up I brush my teeth I call my Ayeeo I take my bag I go to school One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty..."

Although the drought was severe, this was an entirely man-made famine - the perennial surface water was there, the underground water reserves were there, food and aid could have been imported but could not be distributed due to our divisions. It could happen again next or the year after if nothing is done and our political, social economic situations remain unchanged. hundreds of thousands still live in squalor in IDP and have lost all their livelihoods. The images are forgotton all too soon but the results of the famine remain.

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