Ever come across vicious evil yet pious muslims with foul characters. Walahi it makes me wonder sometimes, the balance between forgiveness to and jannah for pious muslims who are yet all that a bad person embodies.

Apophis;892433 wrote: Maybe it's not very helpful to separate people into “gaalo" or Muslim and see everyone as a fellow human first and their faith /lack of second. Wait for my other thread.

Alpha Blondy;892434 wrote: excellent thread. will give you an answer to your questions tomorrow. its ashura tomorrow BTW. I'll go and google what this Ashura is...

For example today my eccentric colleague invited me to a small get-together to "celebrate" some X-mas occasion (basically an early X-mas party in all but name). Some drink, foods, canape's and laughter would be the order of the night. Gammon was on the menu, with a halal-chicken dish to be seperately prepared for me. I refused on principal - and im an opinionated person anyway. I don't celebrate X-mas, never have done and dont intend to. I don't go to alcohol-fueled situations; and certainly in a place where everyone would be eating pork and drinking sharaabka kulul. My colleague was, though having to tried to brush it off as "fine", quite blatently dissappointed.

I wanted to start this thread for a while now. We all work or study with gaalos here and often the differences in beliefs, norms and value will come up and cause awkward situations. Particular sticky situations are gaalo festivities, social activities and even general interaction. There is always a immense amount of "peer-pressure" considering the minority demographic status of muslims and minorities in general. Its interesting to note how different [muslim] individuals deal with these issues. Some, especially the youth of today, immerse themselves in the gaalo culture and social activities - they do the whole lot, going out clubbing, flirting & banter, going to the pub, work syndicates, christmas gifts, work parties etc. Others are steadfast in keeping the norms and beliefs they were brought up with and don't sacrifice their values. Those who have gone to university in western counties will know that universities are the mothers of all hedonic and gaalo anvironments. If any muslim is going to stray it will be whilst at the god-forsaken universities. Drink, drugs, sex, gambling and more alcohol involves most acitivies that happen there. So I wanted to start this thread about the trials and tribulations of dealing with gaalos whilst at work. And see what the experiences of SOL'ers were. For me I've always been someone who thinks and sees things in "black and white". For me i've always looked at things through the lens of is that halal or haram and that would be my decision making mechanism. Perhaps more so than belief (or maybe because of belief, I don't know) it has always been that mindset that has keep me on the right path; but has also made me unnessarily rigid. For example instead of going to a work party and just drinking juice/coke & eating a vegetarian dish as some of you might do, I would personally not go because of the alcohol (and usually pork and other haram foods) infested environment is something that I personally don't like or feel comfortable with... whether thats me being rigid and to my own detriment negatively impacting my professional relationships, or the desired way to behave, I don't know. But living in an environment owned and full of gaalos this does cause friction and distinct differentiation from gaalo peers - with a severe detrimental effect on networking and professional relationships and the costs related with forgoing social interactions because of the setting and nature of those interactions.

This Amin Amire guy needs to lay off with isku dirka.

Damn...

Wixii dembi galay Ilaahay s.w.t ayaa aakhirka soo qaban oo la xisaabtami so don't worry yourselves too much folks. To him we belong and to him we shall return. Aint no escaping that.

Coofle;892018 wrote: Obstetric fistula should have been controlled long time ago knowing about only one patient is saddening, its a living misery. Living misery. I couldn't have put it better myself.

The fact that Somali women have to still live with fistulas is a gut-wrenching and immensely saddening piece of information. One cannot imagine what a Somali woman suffering from a fistula experience, may Allah ease their suffering and dispair. These are the type of issues we should be debating and working towards resolving... instead many Somalis waste their energy and efforts on petty qabyaalad and divisive political issues. One more reason to put qabyaalad behind us, move on from conflict and focus on resolving our common problems as the Somali people. I've not heard of Dr. Ibrahim Siciid, but im a massive fan of both Edna and Dr. Hawa, who are entirely selfless and they do brilliant and yet much needed work.

Been. Qalbi fadareeyoow Beenta la sheegoow Kii lanaga waaniyayoow Khiyaan soo dhukusoow Bahane' ka faa’iidaystoow Qalbi madhan ka dhexhadloow Marmarsiinyo na siiyooow Ereyo meel ka yeedhow Ma timid? Beenta la sheegoow Insi lagu qanciyoow Oon lagu qaboojiyoow Ceeb lagu asturoow Dab lagu demiyoow Buundad lagu dhisoow Xidigo la isugu taxoow Ma is sharaxday? Beenta la sheegoow Ma anigaa ku lehoow Kii ku abuuray ahoow Dantayda aan leeyahoow Maskax iyo qalbi ku jiroow Mise shaydaan ikaa siiyoow Dhegta iigu kaa afuufoow Ma is shalakhday? Beenta la sheegoow Sidii gurmad degdeg ahaaoow Banaan dhamaan madhaaoow Kii ka soo dhexbaxoow Ku meel gaadh ahaaoow Sidii xanuun fiddi jiroow Waa ba is dhali jirayoow Ma tiro beeshay? Beenta la sheegoow Afkayga ka soo baxoow Sidii biyaha badda badnaayoow Xal si fuded loo gaadhoow Sun aakhirka noqon jiroow Dhib dambe abuuri jirayoow Runtii iskaga kay khaldoow Ma rumowday?

Ispired among others by BOB the SOL poet, this will be OdaySomali's Poetry Blog. Don't expect too much but I shall challenge and expore my inner poet. *p.s. disregard if I break the rules of the structuring styles of Somali poetry.

Damn, check at 2.11, the Kenyans are going in hard on a Somali!

lol ok post source if you would mind.

Thanks for telling us about your experience there. Good stuff.

Ilaahay ha kala qaboojiyo if only Somalis turned all this anger and the weapons on others BUT themselves. :mad:

LMAO Oba I COOOME FROM SOMALIA!

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A Somali man (front L) runs away from a group of youth throwing stones as break into a Somali shop in the background during the second day of skirmishes in the Eastleigh In Eastleigh, mobs marauded through the streets chanting "Somalis must go!"

KDF rampage in Garissa, NFD. At least eight people have been shot and more than 50 wounded in an army crackdown in the north-eastern Kenyan town of Garissa, officials say. A student told the BBC soldiers had shot at pupils waiting to go into an exam at a school near a military base. It was the second day of violence after the killing of three soldiers by gunmen in town that borders Somalia, where Islamist militants are based. Reporters say scores of troops beat and detained residents. Kenyan Defence Minister Mohammed Yusuf Haji has told the BBC he did not authorise the army action in Garissa, which is about 350km (215 miles) north-east of the capital Nairobi. 'Ghost town' Dr Musa Mohammed, the medical superintendent of Garissa Provincial Hospital, told the BBC that following "skirmishes" on Monday, 45 patients were admitted - two of whom had gunshot wounds. The hospital received another 15 casualties, including three boys, on Tuesday morning. "Out of them six are gunshot injuries - they are undergoing treatment. Currently up to now nobody has been reported dead," Dr Mohammed said. The Kenya Red Cross Society (KRCS) said it had recorded that one person had died in the violence and that a blood donation area had been set up to help treat the wounded. On Tuesday morning, the medial aid charity said in a statement that it had "rescued four males, four females and two children, eight of them being gunshot casualties". Soldiers are also reported to have gone into a school and shot at students. Hussein Yarow Ali, the head boy at County High School, told the BBC soldiers came into the school at 0900. "We were waiting exam, we heard a lot of tension from the students - after a few moments two students were injured," he said. "The one who was shot in the hand - he was in front of the class, he was just revising for the exam that he was waiting [for]." Residents say Garissa has been like a ghost town on Tuesday, with all businesses and government offices closed and soldiers patrolling the streets. Garissa's main market was set alight on Monday. There have been several recent attacks on Kenyan security personnel in Garissa, which have been blamed on the Somali militant group al-Shabab. Garissa and nearby parts of Kenya are mainly populated by ethnic Somalis. Kenya sent troops across the border last year to fight al-Shabab but its forces have since been merged with the African Union force in Somalia. The military says the soldiers who were shot were part of the AU mission in Somalia. They were killed as they fixed a puncture on their truck, and the gunmen escaped into the crowds of people who gathered after the shooting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20412594

Apophis;891757 wrote: Why? Now I'm suspicious. What's in it for you? lol why the suspicion Its just that you didnt sound very convincing when you said you wernt bothered. Hence why I wanted to ensure you accepted my apologies. But irrespective of whether you accept or not, at least i've offered my apologies

Jacpher;891742 wrote: ^Why you gotta disguise your voice. Fulay waaxid dheh. War sidii ragg u hadal.. Oba you do know those voice effects can be undone/reversed haha

Apophis;891735 wrote: ^^ I can't accept an apology when there's no reason for it. You haven't offended me and thus apology is not appropriate. True story ok and that is excellent. but despite that I still need you to accept my apology even if just for a symbolic sake.

Apophis;891732 wrote: Don't worry about my feelings. You have the right to say anything you want (within SOL law) and trust me, I ain't bothered, more amused really. Good, that is partly how it was intended. So you say yes, you've acknowledged and accepted the apologies?