Somali philosopher;895326 wrote: There are weak among all. Let this guy cheerleader for them. I say Amin to your statement I did not mean Carafaat. He merely posted some songs and perhaps that is not as major as we are making it out to be and we all make mistakes, but I mean those quite literally colaborate with them. Let it not be forgotten though, these are not any kind of songs or music, these are songs paid for, created by and aired by the Ethiopian government on State television and then uploaded on youtube.

Ayaan darro. 2012/02/01 Ethiopian troops kill civilians in Beledweyne Four people were killed and two others were injured when Ethiopian troops in Beledweyne town opened fire on civilians at a bridge in the city, reports say. A woman and a primary school head teacher were among those killed during the fatal incident. 24 January 2012 Mogadishu — The Ethiopian troops in the town of Beledweyn in Hiran region, central Somalia have deliberately shot and killed at least three civilians over 'Al-shabab suspicion', reports said on Tuesday. Shabelle Media reporter in the town say, the Ethiopian soldiers have separately killed on Tuesday afternoon three persons, including teenagers and a well-known businessman August 16, 2008 CNN Ethiopian forces in Somalia have killed at least 46 civilians after a roadside bomb ripped through their military convoy, residents said. The violence happened Friday on the road linking Mogadishu to the agriculturally rich town of Afgooye, residents said. Omar said he and others fled to the nearby forest as the Ethiopian forces began shooting everywhere. Some of the dead were recovered from the forest on the side of the road, indicating some passengers tried to escape the shooting , she said.

Ethiopia: Army Commits Executions, Torture, and Rape in Somali Region In its battle against rebels in eastern Ethiopia's Somali Region, Ethiopia's army has subjected civilians to executions, torture, and rape, Human Rights Watch said in a new report released today . The widespread violence, part of a vicious counterinsurgency campaign that amounts to war crimes and crimes against humanity , has contributed to a looming humanitarian crisis, threatening the survival of thousands of ethnic Somali nomads. The 130-page report "Collective Punishment: War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity in the Somali Regional State," documents a dramatic rise in unchecked violence against civilians since June 2007, when the Ethiopian army launched a counterinsurgency campaign against rebels who attacked a Chinese-run oil installation. The Human Rights Watch report provides the first in-depth look at the patterns of abuse in a conflict that remains virtually unknown because of severe restrictions imposed by the Ethiopian government. "The Ethiopian army's answer to the rebels has been to viciously attack civilians in the Somali region," said Georgette Gagnon, Africa director at Human Rights Watch. "These widespread and systematic atrocities amount to crimes against humanity. Yet Ethiopia’s major donors, Washington, London and Brussels, seem to be maintaining a conspiracy of silence around the crimes." ..

Soomaali ma waxay garan weydey oo ka nixi weydey waxa ay xittaa gaaladaa cadaanka ahi ka yaabtay. Cajiib caleyk. Human Rights Watch and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) produced before and after satellite images of villages razed to the ground in the Somali region by Ethiopian forces. Ethiopian soldiers commit of war crimes in Somalia Amnesty International on Tuesday accused Ethiopian troops in Somalia of killing civilians and committing atrocities, including slitting people's throats, gouging out eyes and gang-raping women. In a new report, the human rights group, which is based in London, detailed chilling witness accounts of indiscriminate killings in Somalia and called on the international community to stop the bloodshed. The rights group said it had scores of reports of killings by Ethiopian troops. In one case, "a young child's throat was slit by Ethiopian soldiers in front of the child's mother," the report says. "The people of Somalia are being killed, raped, tortured. Looting is widespread and entire neighborhoods are being destroyed," Michelle Kagari, the Amnesty deputy director for Africa, said in a statement from Nairobi that accompanied the report. Haboon, 56, said her neighbor's 17-year-old daughter had been raped by Ethiopian troops. The girl's brothers tried to defend their sister, but the soldiers beat them and gouged their eyes out with a bayonet, Haboon was quoted as telling Amnesty.

Nacalad iyo xumaanta uu ilaahay abuuray oo dhani ha raacdo wixii xabashi raacaa!

Diidnayee ogoow... Abuse and terror in the Somali region - Human Rights Watch The war-torn Somali region in Ethiopia is a land scarred by terror. An ongoing struggle for autonomy is being fought between the outlawed Ogden National Liberation Front (ONLF) and the Ethiopian military but it is not just ONLF members who are being brutalised. An undercover investigation by the Bureau and the BBC’s Newsnight provides new evidence of ongoing brutal human rights abuses by Ethiopian government forces. Today the area is a no-go zone for foreigners, the media and aid agencies. Instead, it is kept under strict Ethiopian government control, making it difficult to assess what is going on. But in Dadaab, the largest refugee camp in the world in northern Kenya, there are thousands, who have fled from the Ogden region, claiming to have been subjected to horrific abuses by Ethiopian government troops. Torture victims A grandmother in her 50s, told us that she was one of more than 100 civilians seized from her village in the Ogden by government forces in 2009. Some of the villagers were killed, including her son, and others were taken to jail. She says ‘I was raped’ by ‘a queue’ of soldiers. ‘They raped me in a room, one of them was standing on my mouth, and one tied my hand, they were taking turns, I fainted during this.’ Another victim described how she was eight months pregnant when government forces arrested her, then raped and beat her until she lost her baby.

Carafaat knowing that these songs are created, produced and aired by the Ethiopian State television as part of thier overall agenda of warfare and disposession towards the Somalis in the Somali region of Ethiopia, would you be confortable explaining to our freedom fighters brothers and sisters who are fighting for their survival?

Xaaji Xunjuf;895314 wrote: Brainwashed never 21 years ago the generation who lived through out half of their lives in the failed union. Said never again shall we be ruled by others , today you have entire generations youth who never heard about a former Somali republic that stretches from the outskirts of Djibouti deep south to the border of Kenya. The political unity of SL and Somalia died immediately in the hearts of minds of the Somalilanders in 1960 even in deep south the people learned how to live with out Somaliland so naturally the people accepted each other. So i don't see how one can revive that. Sxb you do not need to be ruled by others. You will only be ruled by others if you let that happen and having learnt from past experiences, that is not going to be allowed to happen. If anything Somaliland is in a much better position than any other. The political unity among all within the Somali republic died and needs reviving. You say that there is a new generation who have not known Somalia. To be honest I've talked to some of the youth whilst I was there and you are right, all that they know about Somalia is what they see on Universal T.V and what they hear from their waalid. But: 1. they don't have the assumed feelings of animosity towards Somalia because they are for the vast majority too young to remember the gruesome details of the conflict. 2. They too know that Somaliland is not recognised. 3. Somaliland is very fickle and I do not think it is very difficult to convince people and show them why all Somalis working together in the Somali republic is in their best interest.

Showqi;895305 wrote: Xaaji waa runtaa oo labada dhinac waa la wada jeclaankaraa. Laakiin in aad tidhaahdo labada dhinac waan jecelahay waanan Kala soocayaa mid soconeysa ma aha ee dhinac isugu beydh.. Dad iyo dal qudha uun aya jira, inkastoo ay qaybo kala duwani maamulo kala duwan leeyihiin. Runta ha la isu sheego, Somaliland waxa la isku yidhaahda dhowr gobol oo isu tegay. Somaliland wadan maaha, Puntland wadan maaha, Federalna solution maaha. But having said that, Somaliland/Puntland waste or even completely malignant maaha - they have created peaceful, stable and developing environments for inhabitants of the regions.

Showqi;895296 wrote: Many members of this from are confused and brianwashed ,when it comes to Somalia and Somaliland politics It's not only Carafaat who sometimes behaves beerka jecliyaa xaydha jecliyaa. But also Stoic, XX and JB are in the same boot. Guys it's time to come out the closet.... Misguided is the word you are looking for, albeit with good intentions. The Somaliland situation is not as set in stone as some like to present. Due to the prevailing circumstances in the south/central regions, for many the mirage of independence misguidedly remains a more realistic prospect than peaceful South-Central regions (with which to work together for a common cause(.

Carafaat;895289 wrote: Oday, what is wrong with chearleading for foreign interest. Isnt that suppose to be what Somali politics is about? Maxaad uga jeedaa?

Apophis;895282 wrote: ^ look Boris, you asked for an example and I gave it to you. lol @ Boris o.k thanks for your input.

Carafaat;895279 wrote: Yes, I know. But why are you crying all of the suddenly. Dont hear you complaining about Jabuuti being frenchised , Kismayo Kikuyised , Somalia Balkanized and Amisized , Piratised , Somalilanised ? Atleast these folks are dancing. Dont see anyone dancing in Kismayo for Kikuyu's. Don't take it personal sxb, no-one is attacking you, your a cool chap. But its the videos I take issue with. I just don't think we should be doing the handy-work of and furthering the Ethiopian regime's cause and inadvertently conducting cultural warfare on our own people... just think about it and bear that in mind.

Apophis;895261 wrote: Explain what? His last thread was making fun of HIV infected people. Stalin was more moral than this creep. Much worse things have been said on these forums, and although that does not justify what he may have done/said, I'll keep an eye out for you confronting the people who say those things.

Apophis;895261 wrote: Explain what? His last thread was making fun of HIV infected people. Stalin was more moral than this creep. HIV is a cause close to your heart, huh? HIV is a major issue in Kenya (and the wider EAC region). How does it affect your perspective of safety and security when back in [mama] Kenya?

Alpha Blondy;895257 wrote: Oday, i tend to think of myself as many things but the the description that best fits my personality is probably 'someone with a distorted sense of reality.' How so?... what exactly do you mean by that. And why do you think that is?

Carafaat im very dissappointed. This is truly a disgusting, trashy, filthy, repulsive and self-destructive thread. You do realise most of these Xabashi-Somali songs you are posting and advertising are produced, created and aired by Ethiopian state television as part of their attempt to Ethiopian-ize Somali [Ethiopians] and diffuse the Somali culture.

Alpha Blondy are you currently in Hargeisa or back in London?

Apophis;895251 wrote: ^maybe a victim of knife fight he started?? His weak morals suggests he doesn't posses the will to finish what he starts. Are you one of his 'victims' or something?... You can't say stuff like that which you have posted in above comments, and not even provide an explanation.

Haatu;895246 wrote: I agree with Apophis. He is a very unstable character that is prone to sever mood swings. Judging by his behavior on this forum I can only guess that he committed a dark and heinous crime in his past . If not, then he has chronic attention issues. I don't think that is the case. What is more likely is that he was a young victim.

Apophis;895239 wrote: You give him too much credit. I'm convinced he knifed someone in London and run off to S/L. He's a degenerate crook. Treat him like a skunk. Why is he a degenerate crook? More like a lost soul haunting cyberspace with antics that are cries for help: Alpha Blondy;894995 wrote: what a mad day, today!......... actually come to think of it, everyday has being like this for the last 6/7 months. back in those days, things were calm, and i was relaxed and had a thought process - thinking imagining and doing things methodologically. now, i think, i'm suffering from a mental blockage and its as deja vu as each day follows the next. i'm preoccupied but at the same time mentally vacant. i'm on a treadmill or running but to no avail, to no purpose, to no end and i still continue on running! i wake up grief stricken and sleep worried at nights...... and quiet frankly these issues are starting to take their toll on my social relations with both friends and family. i don't have any more friends of substance and people are these days defined by the value of their time. i'm surrounded by zombies despite being in self-imposed solitude. i don't know what the issue is but it's overwhelming me. what is my problem? i think i've grown up and facing the harsh realities of life! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

AB which of the three descriptions I gave above is accurate?

So what's Alpha's deal. Maybe the regulars on here who for years have seen Alpha can shed some light on his erratic beahaviour. To be honest I never paid much attention to his posts, there are certain people whose posts I just skip entirely and he was one of them. Only recently did I read a few of his posts and entertaining as some of them might be, yet they are puzzling. Does he just have an intelligent sense of humour with a dark streak? Is he just a misunderstood eccentric person expressing himself? Or is he an unstable dhaqancelis? Disscuss, unless Alpha objects to the attention

oba hiloowlow;895224 wrote: Walahi you spoke the truth was about to say that. Apophis' is Masaai's alter ego a.k.a script

Masaai, I can see you've been a member since 2008. What has brought you out of the woodwork?