chilling with a few friends.

Haatu;981225 wrote: And how do you get all of this from a 10 second clip? Sometimes I wonder with people. Perhaps I too should become a cultural critic, but not in the sense that Alpha claims. I found individuals like our esteemed SP here very strange. They go out of their way to find obscurity upon obscurity so they may seem "cultured" and "well-rounded". In my humble opinion, it's little more than another manifestation of their innate "holier than thou" attitude and outlook on life. They could all do with a humble dose of reality. As you were. :D K.O to pseudo cultural critics.

Haatu;981225 wrote: And how do you get all of this from a 10 second clip? Sometimes I wonder with people. Perhaps I too should become a cultural critic, but not in the sense that Alpha claims. I found individuals like our esteemed SP here very strange. They go out of their way to find obscurity upon obscurity so they may seem "cultured" and "well-rounded". In my humble opinion, it's little more than another manifestation of their innate "holier than thou" attitude and outlook on life. They could all do with a humble dose of reality. As you were. :D K.O to pseudo cultural critics.

BIG up my boy Khadar. Congrats and hambalyo. apologies for not making your coronation. don't let the family down, fam, ma garatay?

Nin-Yaaban;981205 wrote: Sxb waa runtaa, laakinse....the whole reason the Admin/Mods are strict here is because certain people abuse it or take advantage of the website. Free Expression is good, but when that is used to insult/abuse others, it's no longer free speech. That's why there has to be rules in society....because you'd always have Qashin, in this case...'Qabiileste' and racist people abusing it. Most people here on this site are nice/decent people, but there are always those Qashin that slip through the cracks and get approved and continue their Qashinimo and Racism. That AI, is why they are tuff on people. I left Somalinet for that exact same reason...Qabiil. And it looks like SoL is slowly turning into another Snet. People are starting to get away with things they couldn't otherwise get away with before. Maybe its' to up and leave and somewhere else. you might have to leave SOL too, abti. our freedom of speech is too important to lose because a few disgusting people (Mad Mullah, Salaax etc) insult people for who they are rather than what they are. what gets me angry is the idea of trying to preventing a murder before it's actually occurred. baal is deji ninyahoow. the tone in your writing is aggressively bordering on trying to curb our rights eh.

Nin-Yaaban;981203 wrote: Good thread i can get behind. Shaqo fiican sxb. how's he doing shaqo fiican when he's gagging people? we should be able to express our thoughts without being made to feel like we're somehow insulting each other. this politically correct thread is a disgrace.

^ can you give us an update of the state of qabyalaad in Somalia and the Somali speaking regions, abti?

friday's are a time to relax.......unperturbed by the shocks that come with the harsh realities of life here, i usually indulge in a bit of high culture. i've been a cultural critic for the best part of 7 years, now. in those 7 years, i've seen almost 400+ foreign films (i'm talking about authentic and non-mainstream stuff from Chile or Bangladesh).....my knowledge of music, particularly the ''world music'' genre, is excellent. i've read almost 300+ post-colonial classics novels (70% of the African writers series) and for added value all these books are all written by authentic folks, whose prose is written without the ethno-chauvinisms of those catapulted to success by the establishment, like a certain little sand dweller girl called Nadifa Mohamed (she annoys me so much. :mad:!). being a cultural critic is not as easy as some of y'all might think. it requires certain sacrifices, you know...... and you could say it takes a certain sort of person to become one. it's an acquired taste. you're constantly having to keep one step ahead of the competition but that was before. chances are that.......i've probably seen, heard and read everything y'all have seen, heard and read collectively, if not more. here in the abyss, i've found myself keeping my critiques to myself and on a little known forum. you can hardly juxtapose two competing thoughts because ideas are frowned upon here but also because they don't have a clue.... it's futile discussing anything of substances with these folks. even my qurbo friends are incredibly retarded. there's an intellectual famine here. mediocrity is celebrated here and all aspire to it. i haven't even been invited to chair a single discussion anywhere, can y'all believe? why hasn't' SLNTV responded to my proposal for a late night English language show based on the format of Newsnight Review. why aren't they making use of my special skill? why are they so focused on their internal squabbles when there's a world out there? :D

Wadani;981182 wrote: Unfortunately this is quite common . But it's not done out of a cold hearted disregard for the mentally ill, but out of sheer desperation on the part of the families who have no other means of ensuring the safety of the family member and the saftey of others in the community. xigasho please.

^ you've got more hair on your arms than on Haglatosiye's head....:D

OdaySomali;981181 wrote: this is what I said in another thread .....what a pathetic thread it was too. abti, you will incur the inkaar of the same people you continually denigrate ee wax isku faal.

How Much Does It Cost You in Wages if You “Sound Black?” Fascinating new research by my University of Chicago colleague, Jeffrey Grogger, compares the wages of people who “sound black” when they talk to those who do not. His main finding: blacks who “sound black” earn salaries that are 10 percent lower than blacks who do not “sound black,” even after controlling for measures of intelligence, experience in the work force, and other factors that influence how much people earn. (For what it is worth, whites who “sound black” earn 6 percent lower than other whites.) How does Grogger know who “sounds black?” As part of a large longitudinal study called the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, follow-up validation interviews were conducted over the phone and recorded. Grogger was able to take these phone interviews, purge them of any identifying information, and then ask people to try to identify the voices as to whether the speaker was black or white. The listeners were pretty good at distinguishing race through voices: 98 percent of the time they got the gender of the speaker right, 84 percent of white speakers were correctly identified as white, and 77 percent of black speakers were correctly identified as black. Grogger asked multiple listeners to rate each voice and assigned the voice either to a distinctly white or black category (if the listeners all tended to agree on the race), or an indistinct category if there was disagreement. Then he put this measure of whether a voice sounded black into a regression (the standard statistical tool that economists use for estimating things), and came up with the finding that blacks who “sound black” earn almost 10 percent less, even after taking into account other factors that could influence earnings. One piece of interesting good news is that blacks who do not “sound black” earn essentially the same as whites. (It turns out you don’t want to sound southern, either. Although pretty imprecisely estimated, it is almost as bad for your wages to sound southern as it is to sound black, even controlling for whether you live in the south.) So what does this all mean? The first question to ask is whether the impact of speech on wages is a causal one. It is possible that there are many other characteristics that differ between blacks who do or do not “sound black” that Grogger cannot control for in his regressions. It does seem likely that the biases at work would make his estimate an upper bound. (Although it should also be noted that his estimates are for young people, and the importance of speech may become important with age, in which case his results might underestimate the long-run effects.) If one believes Grogger’s effects are causal, then investing in the ability to not “sound black” looks to have a huge return — roughly of the same magnitude as getting one more year of schooling. Of course, there is the issue of one’s identity. There may be personal costs associated with being black and not sounding black. But these costs would have to be pretty large. (When I have Asian Ph.D. students go on the job market in the United States, I tell them that I think there is rampant discrimination against non-English speakers and encourage them to adopt Americanized first names for the job market. Very few of my students choose to do so — either a testimony to the identity cost of pretending to be someone you aren’t, or possibly their lack of faith in my assessment of the amount of discrimination.) I was talking with one of my colleagues about this study. He thinks it will be a very important and influential one. My response, “Tru dat.” ----- interesting read. would be interesting to get Wadani's valued opinion. ---- http://freakonomics.com/2008/07/07/how-much-does-it-cost-you-in-wages-if-you-sound-black/

interesting.......

Safferz;981163 wrote: Alpha, don't politicize this with SL/Somalia BS, there's no SL exceptionalism for mental health issues affecting Somalis and we both know places like Hargeisa have seen much more violence and warfare in the last generation than many cities in the south. But I'll admit I loled at "Tintinian" inabti, you're missing the point. are you on crack, horta? clearly, it's quite obvious you seem to think i'm politically point scoring. i made a valid point re Jamal's distortion. let's concentrate on the issue please.

SomaliPhilosopher;981164 wrote: DAMMIT!!! I torrented Uzak and it has no subtitles!!!!!!! I can't let 2GB of internet go to waste, in such case I must learn Turkish!!! :D this film is excellent walahi. one of the greatest films. i reviewed it in Maximus' Power's Film Thread. balse, this was an attempt to lure me in, somaha? i didn't reply back your PM requesting access to my dropbox of treats, ma garatay. it's quite obvious you know me outside of SOL and i couldn't risk any further qarxis, abti. no offensive. download the subs on here.....http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/subtitles/3333950/uzak-en let me know what you think baal, abti.

Jamal Osman, Somali journalist extraordinaire and ''film-maker'' really ought to be ashamed of this latest trick to pull the wool over ours eyes. this man has lost all credibility. he's clearly desperate and it shows. it's a shame he ridicules the mentally insane, in his wet-behind-the-ears ''Tintinian'' attempts to leave no stone unturned, to appear as a ''credible'' journalist. really, he has two options..... 1. if he's reporting from Somaliland then he should avoid subsuming SL under this ''Somalia'' label. he ought to make it clear he's reporting from SL. but that he uses such misleading guises shows his amateurish ways. kulaaha.....1/3 of people have mental illness. caajib. 2. we all know this man is unable to travel to Somalia, where people are more prone to such mental conditions....... because of 23 years of enduring the effects of state collapse. if he's unable to travel to Somalia because of his foul-mouthed tirades against Somalia's journalists then he shouldn't present SL as Somalia to the ignorant viewers that take his ''pop'' sort of journalism serious. i follow this guy on twitter and y'all should see the amount of praises he receives.

Jah Cure.

SomaliPhilosopher;981138 wrote: hmmmmmmm :D oh yeah?

Safferz;981136 wrote: Why so down Alpha? I prefer listening to happy pop songs in the morning dee stop projecting your sad state of affairs on me, ma garatay?

dedicated to Saffz. cheer up inabti. we are all proud of you, okay?

^ i auditioned for Othello once. they gave it to a white guy, abti. caajib.

'Sex Jihad' and Other Lies: Assad's Elaborate Disinformation Campaign Syrian President Assad's regime is waging a PR campaign to spread stories that discredit its rivals and distract from its own crimes. Aided by gullible networks and foreign media, it has included tales of rebels engaging in "sex jihad" and massacring Christians. Sex sells. And al-Qaida is eager to grab attention. But the combination of the two -- sex jihad -- is simply irresistible. Scores of young women are reportedly offering themselves to jihadists, according to one of the latest horror news stories coming out of Syria. A sheik from Saudi Arabia has allegedly issued a fatwa that allows teenage girls to provide relief to sexually frustrated fighters. In late September, 16-year-old Rawan Qadah appeared on Syrian TV and gave a detailed account of how she had to sexually satisfy a radical insurgent. After the Tunisian interior minister stated that young women from his country were traveling to Syria for sex jihad -- and having sex with 20, 30 and even up to 100 rebels -- the story started to make headlines in Germany, as well. In Germany, the websites of the mass circulation Bild newspaper and Focus magazine have titillated readers with articles about this supposed "bizarre practice." In the wake of the poison gas massacre on Aug. 21, the regime in Damascus has launched a major PR offensive. Beyond the official line of propaganda, though, there is a second campaign: a secret and elaborately staged effort to sow doubt and confusion -- and divert attention away from the Syrian government's own crimes. Like many of these bogus news stories, the sex jihad tales aim to convince supporters at home and critics abroad of the rebels' monstrous depravity. No other leader in the region -- not Saddam Hussein in Iraq, nor Moammar Gadhafi in Libya -- has relied as heavily on propaganda as Assad. His PR teams and state media are churning out a steady stream of partially or completely fabricated new stories about acts of terror against Christians, al-Qaeda's rise to power and the imminent destabilization of the entire region. These stories are circulated by Russian and Iranian broadcasters, as well as Christian networks, and are eventually picked up by Western media. One prime example is the legend of orgies with terrorists: The 16-year-old presented on state TV comes from a prominent oppositional family in Daraa. When the regime failed to capture her father, she was abducted by security forces on her way home from school in November 2012. During the same TV program, a second woman confessed that she had submitted to group sex with the fanatical Al-Nusra Front. According to her family, though, she was arrested at the University of Damascus while protesting against Assad. Both young women are still missing. Their families say that they were forced to make the televised statements -- and that the allegation of sex jihad is a lie. An alleged Tunisian sex jihadist also dismissed the stories when she was contacted by Arab media: "All lies!", she said. She admitted that she had been to Syria, but as a nurse. She says she is married and has since fled to Jordan. Two human rights organizations have been trying to substantiate the sex jihad stories, but have so far come up empty-handed. It appears that the Tunisian interior minister had other motives for jumping on this rumor: Hundreds of Islamists have left his country and traveled to Syria, and he is apparently trying to stem the tide by discrediting these fighters. Furthermore, Sheikh Mohammad al-Arifi, the man who is allegedly behind the sex jihad fatwa, denies everything. "No person in their right mind would approve of such a thing," he says. Disseminating Lies It is difficult -- and, at times, even impossible -- to verify all the horror stories emerging from the civil war in Syria. This holds especially true when they are disseminated in a roundabout way, as is the case with most of the reports of persecuted Christians. For example, on Sept. 26, the German Catholic news agency KNA issued a report -- citing the Vatican news agency Fides -- stating that Muslim legal scholars in the opposition stronghold Douma, near Damascus, had called for "the property of non-Muslims to be confiscated." Fides said that it had a copy of a document that was signed by 36 Muslim religious figures. Yet although this appeared to be a serious story, it turned out to be based on a forgery: a fictitious text with real signatures. It actually came from a 2011 statement calling for civilians to be spared during the fighting. On a number of occasions, Fides has accepted as true propaganda fabrications released by regime-affiliated portals, such as Syria Truth. This also includes the myth of the beheading of a bishop -- a story also spread by Assad in an interview with SPIEGEL. The fact of the matter is that a jihadist from Dagestan killed three men in this way, but they weren't Christians. After getting the stamp of approval from the official news agency of the Vatican, such rumors generated by Assad's propaganda machine are circulated around the world as bona-fide new stories. The facts were twisted in a similar manner when an image of a woman tied to a pillar in Aleppo appeared on the LiveLeak video portal in mid-September. The website claimed that the woman was a Christian from Aleppo who had been abducted by al-Qaida rebels. In reality, although the photo was taken in Aleppo, it dates back to a period when Assad's troops still controlled the entire city. A video of the scene, posted on YouTube on June 12, 2012, shows regime-loyal militias berating the woman. The regime also concocted the legend of the destruction of the Christian village of Maaloula. In early September, rebels belonging to three groups, including al-Nusra, attacked two military posts on the outskirts of town held by members of the local Assad-loyal Shabiha militias. Then the rebels withdrew. But the regime's version, which even managed to become an Associated Press story, was as follows: Foreign terrorists looted and burned down churches -- and even threatened to behead Christians who refused to convert to Islam. This didn't match with reports from the nuns of the Thekla convent in Maaloula and the Greek Orthodox patriarch of Antioch. They said that nothing had been damaged and no one had been threatened on account of their beliefs. A reporter from the satellite news network Russia Today unwittingly cleared up the confusion. While accompanying the Syrian army, he filmed the tank attack on Maaloula -- in which the local monastery was shelled. This ongoing reinterpretation of events reflects a conscious policy -- and bending the truth is much easier now that Syria has become such a confusing and chaotic theater of war. Most news publications shy away from the risks and efforts of verifying stories on the ground. Actual events, such as when jihadists burned down a church in the northern Syrian town of Rakka, are mixed together with trumped-up atrocities staged to sway global opinion. Even blatant inconsistencies are often accepted without question. After all, tangible evidence to the contrary rarely exists. When state-run media reported that the prominent imam Mohammed al-Buti, a supporter of Assad, was killed by a suicide bomber at his mosque in the heart of Damascus on March 21, all rebel groups denied having anything to do with the attack. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean much. But even an untrained eye would have to notice that the photos showed no signs of an explosion: Chandeliers, fans and carpets were all intact. Instead, there were bullet holes clear across a marble wall, and pools of blood apparently showed where the bodies had lain. Many of the victims were wearing shoes, which is highly unusual for Muslims in a mosque. There were also no witnesses. All of this feeds the suspicion that the victims were forced into the building and murdered -- as a backdrop for an attack that never occurred.................. ----- http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/assad-regime-wages-pr-campaign-to-discredit-rebels-a-926479.html ----- so it was all lies.

African leaders discuss relationship with ICC Possible mass withdrawal from Hague-based court being debated at two-day African Union summit in Ethiopia's capital. African leaders have begun a two-day meeting to discuss the continent’s relationship with the International Criminal Court among other issues. The first meeting on Friday, dubbed the extraordinary session of the executive council of the African Union, is to be followed by the session of the assembly in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia's capital and headquarters of the continental bloc. The two-day summit is expected to be attended by Sudanese President Omar al Bashir, who has been indicted by the ICC on war crimes charges and genocide in Sudan’s war-torn Darfur. The AU has demanded that proceedings against Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta linked to the 2007-2008 post-election violence be dropped. Kenyatta faces crimes against humanity along with his Vice President William Ruto, who is already on trial at the Hague, Netherlands. The meeting is also expected to discuss a possible mass withdrawal from the ICC, although leading African figures, including Kofi Annan, the former UN secretary-general, and retired Archbishop Desmond Tutu, have urged African leaders not to withdraw support. Ethiopia's foreign minister slammed the ICC for its "unfair" and "totally unacceptable" treatment of Africa. "The manner in which the Court has been operating, particularly its unfair treatment of Africa and Africans, leaves much to be desired," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told ministers and delegates at the opening of the meeting. Kenyatta's bid Many African countries, whose leaders have complained that the ICC only targets Africans, are signatories to the Rome Statute which set the stage for the formation of the court. Al Jazeera's Malcolm Webb, reporting from Addis Ababa, said only a handful of countries were advocating a withdrawal from the court. He said countries like Nigeria did not have a problem with the court while South Africa had not decided on pulling out. Thirty-four African states are signatories to the Rome Statute. The summit comes as Kenyatta launches a fresh bid to have the ICC case against him stopped. He cited "serious, sustained and wide-ranging abuse on the process of the court carried out by" three witnesses against him in collaboration with the court’s investigators, according to Kenya's Daily Nation newspaper. Kenyatta alleges his witnesses have been intimidated or interfered with to change their testimony "for reward", the newspaper said. In an application made late on Thursday, the daily said, his defence team wants the judges to either stop the case permanently or hold a hearing where the issue will be resolved conclusively before his trial begins on November 12. Kenyatta's lawyers have said that if it is found that those involved abused the court process, "it would necessitate a permanent stay of the proceedings". In July two witnesses who were due to testify in Kenyatta's trial withdrew over security concerns, the ICC said. The court also dropped a third witness's evidence, saying it it did not consider it necessary. Fatou Bensouda, the ICC's chief prosecutor, has previously accused Kenya's government of not protecting witnesses. ---- http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/10/african-leaders-discuss-icc-relationship-2013101161611646302.html -------- interesting developments.

^ Mo Farah's family live in terrible squalor in Gabiley while he's busy posting for the 'celebrity tabloids' with naag cad oo timaha iyo qaarka sare, siba caloosha iyo meelo kale ka qaawan. hadii uu rabo in uu nolosha la wadaago durriyada.....sida wa innu isku dhaamo. waana iga taalo.